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    The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    More often than not, while listening to Stardusk or Barbarossa vids during work will come across a real gem that really gets into the nitty and gritty of trying to explain our base base biology & drives - not to say that all of their vids aren't good or interesting, have yet to skip one in 100s of hours spent so far.

    Topics that go beyond basic MGTOW points of avoiding cohabitation etc. which get repetitive at a point.


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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk View Post
    More often than not, while listening to Stardusk or Barbarossa vids during work will come across a real gem that really gets into the nitty and gritty of trying to explain our base base biology & drives - not to say that all of their vids aren't good or interesting, have yet to skip one in 100s of hours spent so far.

    Topics that go beyond basic MGTOW points of avoiding cohabitation etc. which get repetitive at a point.

    You spend your time watching and listening to this stuff?

    I got 4 mins in and had to stop. I only went that far because you recommended it.

    You’re an intelligent guy; I’ve read your posts.

    Why did I stop?

    Not because I believed he was wrong, not because I believed he had nothing to say, but because of the monotone, boring voice that sought to put me to sleep.

    I just couldn’t take it.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    How many people know about their lineage? And how many would care if they did know? Our ancestors are most likely turning in their graves in regards to what we have become.


    So the idea of reproducing so your genes can go on and conquer the world is rather amusing.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    You spend your time watching and listening to this stuff?

    I got 4 mins in and had to stop. I only went that far because you recommended it.

    You’re an intelligent guy; I’ve read your posts.

    Why did I stop?

    Not because I believed he was wrong, not because I believed he had nothing to say, but because of the monotone, boring voice that sought to put me to sleep.

    I just couldn’t take it.
    Off the top of my head, work puts me to sleep so maybe I don't notice the difference in that sense and gotten used to it. Suppose that interest in the topics & ideas that he goes over keep me interested, otherwise crash on the bed and chill out with headphones on - definitely not a highly energetic/exciting topic in these veins of thought, it'd seem fake/forced if it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    How many people know about their lineage? And how many would care if they did know? Our ancestors are most likely turning in their graves in regards to what we have become.


    So the idea of reproducing so your genes can go on and conquer the world is rather amusing.
    To that extent no one really knows or cares about their ancestors from their 1000 years ago, let alone 10,000 at which point our genetic DNA is so different that there's almost no similarity even. Your DNA gets diluted with each passing reproduction of your offspring if they even survive at that until almost nothing is even left of your "legacy" perse.

    Very little thought goes into the past ancestors or your future offspring, people worry about their "kids" not their kids children, or their grandchildren or beyond on a time horizon of 100-1000 to even further time-span, we still think in the present short-term reproduction wise - forgo excess future thoughts in order to pass on your gene's before you pass away.
    Last edited by JustWannaRetireFk; December 24, 2021 at 1:45 AM.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    How many people know about their lineage? And how many would care if they did know? Our ancestors are most likely turning in their graves in regards to what we have become. So the idea of reproducing so your genes can go on and conquer the world is rather amusing.
    Yeah, its really funny how some people act as if they will be remembered forever when in reality they will only be remembered by children and then maybe grandchildren. What's actually going to happen is that they will just be fucking dead LMAO. After that they will fade into oblivion just as everything and everyone else does. I think it's just a cope for fear of death.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Sounds a lot like Stoicism. One of the key principles of Stoicism is coming to terms with death. The ancient Stoics strongly emphasized the temporary nature of life. Basically, do the best you can in life and accept the fact that you won't be remembered in death. Marcus Aurelius would be shocked to know his journal has been read by millions of people 1800 years after his death, or the fact that historians study him and all the Roman emperors in such great detail. He would not be shocked to learn that Rome and all the ancient powers of his time collapsed.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    Sounds a lot like Stoicism. One of the key principles of Stoicism is coming to terms with death. The ancient Stoics strongly emphasized the temporary nature of life. Basically, do the best you can in life and accept the fact that you won't be remembered in death. Marcus Aurelius would be shocked to know his journal has been read by millions of people 1800 years after his death, or the fact that historians study him and all the Roman emperors in such great detail. He would not be shocked to learn that Rome and all the ancient powers of his time collapsed.
    Depends on what you do to be remembered in death. Being remembered for Hundreds of years probably isnt impossible. Look at Hitler for example. Or Genghis Khan. But yeah, if you go the same path as everyone else you will be forgotten. you need to fundamentally change the fabric of society.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by mdjs89skl View Post
    Depends on what you do to be remembered in death. Being remembered for Hundreds of years probably isnt impossible. Look at Hitler for example. Or Genghis Khan. But yeah, if you go the same path as everyone else you will be forgotten. you need to fundamentally change the fabric of society.
    ::sigh:: Do me a favor, and avoid responding to any of my posts from now on and I'll do the same for yours. We're on different wavelengths.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Even if people do study you for 1000 years…is it really “living on” if you aren’t there to know about it? It would be like people having parties for you while you’re alive…but you aren’t invited and don’t know anything about them. Awesome. And who knows what we currently study that will be talked about in say 50,000 years….or 1,000,000 years. Those are huge numbers and it’s hard to fathom there even being a time in the future that is 1,000 years from now let alone a million. And according to science a million years is just a drop in the bucket relative to an Earth that has been around 4.5 billion years. Could be some event in say 15,000 or whatever years where all of history we know now gets deleted somehow.

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    Re: The futility of the base male instinct to reproduce -

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    ::sigh:: Do me a favor, and avoid responding to any of my posts from now on and I'll do the same for yours. We're on different wavelengths.
    Way to go Tool.

    If I’d have seen this post back in January I would have reported it. Why? Because it’s the antithesis of the red-pill: If you don’t say what I say and think like I think then I don’t wanna know!

    Add to that it was an attack on a junior member.

    Worse again mdjs was right, which makes you wrong for trying to shut him down.

    Fundamentally changing the fabric of society is a sure way of leaving a legacy, how can you not see this?

    I’m pretty stoic myself, but I don’t follow it like some sort of religious mantra.

    A suggestion to you sir:

    If you don’t want your viewpoints to be criticised, keep them to yourself.

    Or maybe you’d like to try to tell me not to respond to your posts because we’re on different wavelengths?
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