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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

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    Armed Forces Data on Vaccines? 1000% increase in serious injuries and illnesses after vaccines in 2021 . . .
    U.S. Army surgeon in tears: Top brass ordered silence on vaccine injuries
    An Army flight surgeon testified in federal court that she was ordered by high-level command not to discuss the controversy over Department of Defense data indicating a massive spike in serious injuries and illnesses among military personnel when the vaccines were rolled out in 2021.

    Dr. Theresa Long was testifying March 10 in the case of a Navy SEAL commander who refused to receive a COVID shot. She told Judge Steven Merryday of the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida in Tampa that she was observing cases of the demyelination of the central nervous system in military personnel.

    As WND reported, three Department of Defense whistleblowers have presented evidence from the Defense Military Epidemiological Database (DMED) that show a nearly 1,000% increase overall in diseases and injuries in 2021 compared to the previous five years.

    Long, a senior flight surgeon at the U.S. Army Flight School at Fort Rucker, Alabama, testified along with two other military flight surgeons, Lt. Col. Peter Chambers and Col. (Ret.) Stewart Tankersley . .

    Full article: https://www.wnd.com/2022/03/u-s-army...cine-injuries/

    Additional article: DMED data is explosive. Mainstream media has been ordered to ignore it.

    . . .

    1. The medical database used by the US military shows a huge uptick in serious events in 2021. Only events caused by the vaccine (as noted by the uptick in VAERS reports for these symptoms) were elevated . . .

    For a quick intro to the database, I highly recommend you watch this 2 minute video of Dr. Robert Malone talking about the DMED database: DR. MALONE STATES DOD IS DELETING DATA FROM IT'S DATABASE TO COVER UP DAMAGES DONE BY THE "VACCINES"
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    The effect sizes are huge. For example, the rates of hypertension increased by 21X from average in 2021. Nervous system diseases increased by a factor of 10 . . .
    1. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/t...rom-the-us-dod

    Very Good.
    Try to keep away from data sources that can be manipulated either way.

    Now look into the different types of the covid vaccines. This will be a little harder for you. They are not all the same. mNRA are the popular ones that had the worst side effects. The next largest type is the protein-based vaccine (more of a traditional type). China had a couple last time I looked, I couldn't find any data on them. Vaxine in Australia has Spikogen trialed in Iran with 60% protection from Delta. 2 million doses safely distributed with no cases of vaccine associated anaphylaxis, myocarditis, or clotting disorders. It looks like Sanofi out of France has both protein and mRNA type in trials, I haven't looked into anything published by them. The largest distributed Novavax, DrBeen on YT has several videos where he goes into the clinical data discussing the side effects of it.

    To group all the Covid vaccine's together and say they are all poison and will kill you is very misleading and false, they are not all the same. Do we need a Covid vaccine? Most of us not likely but same as alcohol, we don't need it and the adverse reactions are not healthy, but we still use it.

    The larger the distribution of a drug the more adverse reactions will occur. All drugs can produce adverse reactions (even aspirin is not safe for some people).

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

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    To group all the Covid vaccine's together and say they are all poison and will kill you is very misleading and false, they are not all the same.
    That isn't necessarily true Rusty - to be sure, the MNRA tech is new and has both great potential for a whole host of applications, but a notoriously awful track record for any situation in which it has been applied. More traditional vaccines have their own successes and issues. With respect to COVID, it's all about the spike protein, and this thing is a monster, particularly as it is being shown to linger - regardless of source - infection or vax. However evidence continues to pile up that the latter is a much more dangerous situation, and natural immunity has proven to be more broad-based and robust. Given the negligible impact COVID has on the vast majority of those who get it, this makes sense.

    As with the original MNRA vaxes were also touted to have no serious side effects, high efficacy rates etc. and it is only after some time we are just starting to get a sense of how wrong that was (known by the developers/politicians from the outset)...How anyone can take any of this propaganda seriously from any supposed "authority", government, pharma company etc seriously at this point is baffling.

    The following recent discussion with Dr. Paul Marik is long, but enlightening. Regardless of the choice anyone made or was forced into, looking at detox protocols and doing whatever you can to improve your NATURAL immune system, and supporting systems ie respiratory, cardiovascular etc would be prudent. As I've mentioned before, TPTB aren't just going to kill everyone off over a short period...that being said, if this virus and/or the vaxes are part of a depopulation agenda over the medium term (ie fertility effects, shortening life spans), the error they have made is in misjudging the human body's incredible ability to heal itself, provided with the right inputs. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but you have to turn it on first.

    Dr. Paul Marik: Spike-Related Diseases, Gaslighting of the Vaccine Injured, and the Suppression of Early Treatment:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-pau...t_4818954.html




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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    That isn't necessarily true Rusty - to be sure, the MNRA tech is new and has both great potential for a whole host of applications, but a notoriously awful track record for any situation in which it has been applied.
    Not necessarily true? But then you state the same as me how bad mRNA...

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    More traditional vaccines have their own successes and issues.
    Yes, what issues (other than other traditional vaccines) does the Covid protein vaccines display? Have you looked into this? or are you blindly following the native of anti-vaxxers?

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    With respect to COVID, it's all about the spike protein, and this thing is a monster, particularly as it is being shown to linger - regardless of source - infection or vax. However evidence continues to pile up that the latter is a much more dangerous situation, and natural immunity has proven to be more broad-based and robust. Given the negligible impact COVID has on the vast majority of those who get it, this makes sense.
    So you are talking about three scenarios here... non infection being the best, infection and no-vax being bad, and infection with vax being the worst... I somewhat agree but again all vax is lumped together, where there is no proof where it should be. Maybe try to think outside the box for a minute or two...

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    As with the original MNRA vaxes were also touted to have no serious side effects, high efficacy rates etc. and it is only after some time we are just starting to get a sense of how wrong that was (known by the developers/politicians from the outset)...How anyone can take any of this propaganda seriously from any supposed "authority", government, pharma company etc seriously at this point is baffling.
    I agree, most of the trials for mRNA were not completed because of the adverse reactions. Nothing news here...

    Take a look into the trials for a protein covid vax and say compare that to the annual flu shot before 2019 there are next to no difference in adverse reactions.



    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    The following recent discussion with Dr. Paul Marik is long, but enlightening. Regardless of the choice anyone made or was forced into, looking at detox protocols and doing whatever you can to improve your NATURAL immune system, and supporting systems ie respiratory, cardiovascular etc would be prudent.
    That will not play for me, it just sits there and buffers, likely trying to push pop ups....

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    As I've mentioned before, TPTB aren't just going to kill everyone off over a short period...that being said, if this virus and/or the vaxes are part of a depopulation agenda over the medium term (ie fertility effects, shortening life spans), the error they have made is in misjudging the human body's incredible ability to heal itself, provided with the right inputs. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but you have to turn it on first.
    Ya maybe... But if you are going to try to preach that all vaxs are for depopulation why has there been so much push back to approve protein based vaxs? Why was the U of Q's protein vax stopped before production if it was for de-population? Why has Vaxine's Spikovax not approved anywhere else accept Iran? They raised $10m here in Australia with a go fund me page but still not approved by the TGA... Novavax is the most popular but has still struggled for approval in many countries, and an adverse reaction sheet about the same as a yearly flu shot.

    OK, how about this for a de-population plan? Where would your line of thinking fall into?
    Covid mRNA vax is totally shit (we are seeing this), all news comes out and everyone wakes up to what has been played on them... A virus that was not deadly to most of the population turned out to be deadly from the cure... Then a real deadly virus is released but downplayed on the health effects (opposite of what Covid was played) and a vax (likely protein) is available but not much uptake because of Covid mRNA damage. The ones in the know will be lining up but the masses will be hoping to go it naturally.

    3 years ago, most people wouldn't dream about what has happened. This shit show isn't over yet, don't get caught up into one way of thinking. The anti-vaxxers are now looking a lot like what the pro-vaxxers were in the height of this.... Is this what they want people to do, is this all planned? Are you being played same as the pro-vaxxers were?

    Deep down I am also anti-vax, but I don't trust these pricks and this is only chapter one. The shit part is we are only reactive to what they are doing... We can't even vote for who we want, only choose between their puppets that they choose for us...

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

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    Novavax is the most popular but has still struggled for approval in many countries, and an adverse reaction sheet about the same as a yearly flu shot.
    Sweden just halted Novavax for under 30's due to myocarditis...like I said, give it time. Literally every day some other negative news (excess deaths not related to covid, suspension of use, more side-effects etc) comes out.

    As for the rest of the comment/post - sure, there are lots of other possibilities on the depopulation aspect....I'm certainly not stuck in one way of thinking, nor am I being played. In my estimation, the vaccines were ready before the disease, and plenty of evidence points to that.

    I'm open to the possibility that the "antivaxxers" may be at risk from a highly targeted variant that is actually protected by these vaccines...thus eliminating the resistance, re-affirming the compliant made the "right choice" and everyone left is now under complete control.

    I abhor the term anti-"vaxxer" however, despite the fact I'll likely never take another one after this shit show. I literally have almost every other one, and we do have a fairly standard protocol on the farm for things like rabies and a few horse-specific ones.

    I am however anti-"experimental vaccine" and most definitely anti-"experimental genetic therapy being called a vaccine".

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    Sweden just halted Novavax for under 30's due to myocarditis...like I said, give it time. Literally every day some other negative news (excess deaths not related to covid, suspension of use, more side-effects etc) comes out.

    As for the rest of the comment/post - sure, there are lots of other possibilities on the depopulation aspect....I'm certainly not stuck in one way of thinking, nor am I being played. In my estimation, the vaccines were ready before the disease, and plenty of evidence points to that.

    I'm open to the possibility that the "antivaxxers" may be at risk from a highly targeted variant that is actually protected by these vaccines...thus eliminating the resistance, re-affirming the compliant made the "right choice" and everyone left is now under complete control.

    I abhor the term anti-"vaxxer" however, despite the fact I'll likely never take another one after this shit show. I literally have almost every other one, and we do have a fairly standard protocol on the farm for things like rabies and a few horse-specific ones.

    I am however anti-"experimental vaccine" and most definitely anti-"experimental genetic therapy being called a vaccine".
    I think they'd develop the gain-of-function at the same time develop a vaccine, in other words <virus/off> switch. Was it a deliberate release? I doubt it, unless the lab-tech was an idiot, or chose to embody evil on a level of .0000001% of the population.

    What government wouldn't want a bioweapon they can be immune to? It's better than nuclear weapons if it's controllable, kill them all and take their shit is as old as Cain and Able, so in that light, why not? We've had allot of time to nurture evil, and the human species is #1 in this regard.

    I live where (literally) the first deployment of a bioweapon was used in North America by Lord Jeffery Amherst, using smallpox infected blankets for the natives to use (cloaked under "humanitarian"). If history repeats itself, then yes, but in Covid's case, nobody had immunity, therefore the human extermination hypothesis holds more water.
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    Agreed on the "anti-vaxxer" label - I am willing to take vaccines, but not mRna genetic modification therapies. I have urged people to take the BCG tuberculosis vaccine instead since it appears to also work against some types of cancer and covid, but is unprofitable (generic, not patentable) since it has been used for about 100 years without problems - it is a proven vaccine, not experimental.

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    Sweden just halted Novavax for under 30's due to myocarditis...like I said, give it time. Literally every day some other negative news (excess deaths not related to covid, suspension of use, more side-effects etc) comes out.

    As for the rest of the comment/post - sure, there are lots of other possibilities on the depopulation aspect....I'm certainly not stuck in one way of thinking, nor am I being played. In my estimation, the vaccines were ready before the disease, and plenty of evidence points to that.

    I'm open to the possibility that the "antivaxxers" may be at risk from a highly targeted variant that is actually protected by these vaccines...thus eliminating the resistance, re-affirming the compliant made the "right choice" and everyone left is now under complete control.

    I abhor the term anti-"vaxxer" however, despite the fact I'll likely never take another one after this shit show. I literally have almost every other one, and we do have a fairly standard protocol on the farm for things like rabies and a few horse-specific ones.

    I am however anti-"experimental vaccine" and most definitely anti-"experimental genetic therapy being called a vaccine".

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Remember that when Covid came out, China was dealing with street riots and democracy protests in Hong Kong. After the Covid pandemic, no more riots . . . my thought that China was gettting rid of useless eaters and democracy protesters by releasing Covid. The alternate theory on Unz is that Covid was a bioweapon aimed at Iran and China by the USA with blowback on the rest of the world. Worth a read on Unz dot com

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I think they'd develop the gain-of-function at the same time develop a vaccine, in other words <virus/off> switch. Was it a deliberate release? I doubt it, unless the lab-tech was an idiot, or chose to embody evil on a level of .0000001% of the population.

    What government wouldn't want a bioweapon they can be immune to? It's better than nuclear weapons if it's controllable, kill them all and take their shit is as old as Cain and Able, so in that light, why not? We've had allot of time to nurture evil, and the human species is #1 in this regard.

    I live where (literally) the first deployment of a bioweapon was used in North America by Lord Jeffery Amherst, using smallpox infected blankets for the natives to use (cloaked under "humanitarian"). If history repeats itself, then yes, but in Covid's case, nobody had immunity, therefore the human extermination hypothesis holds more water.

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Remember that when Covid came out, China was dealing with street riots and democracy protests in Hong Kong. After the Covid pandemic, no more riots . . . my thought that China was gettting rid of useless eaters and democracy protesters by releasing Covid. The alternate theory on Unz is that Covid was a bioweapon aimed at Iran and China by the USA with blowback on the rest of the world. Worth a read on Unz dot com
    Why not both? The US gave funding to the Wuhan biolab that was working on gain-of-function research that led to COVID. Frankly, seeing the US and China in cahoots on this wouldn't surprise me now.

    China is using vax passports on smartphones to limit would-be protestors' movements. When there was a bank run recently, numerous affected people were prevented from using transport by their passport statuses suddenly changing from green to orange. This gives a hint of what the whole agenda really is.

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Quote Originally Posted by K-Dog View Post
    Why not both? The US gave funding to the Wuhan biolab that was working on gain-of-function research that led to COVID. Frankly, seeing the US and China in cahoots on this wouldn't surprise me now.
    Yes, good observation. Look at what they do, not what they say.... Actions speak louder than words....

    Quote Originally Posted by K-Dog View Post
    China is using vax passports on smartphones to limit would-be protestors' movements. When there was a bank run recently, numerous affected people were prevented from using transport by their passport statuses suddenly changing from green to orange. This gives a hint of what the whole agenda really is.
    Yes, and China's "Social Credit System" is the envy of the WEF and all the supporting countries. They all want cashless in a social credit system because that would be total control or slavery of the middle and lower classes.

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    Re: "You Murderous Hypocrites": Outrage Ensues After The Atlantic Suggests 'Amnesty' For Pandemic Authoritarians

    Quote Originally Posted by KRFJames View Post
    Sweden just halted Novavax for under 30's due to myocarditis...like I said, give it time.
    Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know about this. Not much published at this point, and it all seems like they are looking at data here in Australia... I didn't know there was a problem here...


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