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    The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    Left-wingers are obsessed with the alt-right but they doesn't understand what alt-right is really about and what they want.
    Alt-right or the alternative right is a broad coalition of national socialists, white nationalists, conservatives of various kinds, and disenchanted libertarians.
    It came to prominence in 2016 for its support of Donald Trump. It became notorious in 2017 for the riotous assembly it provoked at the Charlottesville Rally.

    The alt-rightists are highly highly intelligent, highly literate, internet savvy, media savvy activists who swallow the red pill, as the saying goes, the allusion from The Matrix. When they are exposed the first time to true statements that have never been voiced in college campuses or in The New York Times or in respectable media, they have feeling of outrage in them that these truths are unsayable.

    Let me give you four examples. Here is a fact thatís gonna sound ragingly controversial but is not, and that is that capitalist societies are better than communist ones. If you doubt it, then just ask yourself the question, would I rather live in South Korea or North Korea. Would I rather live in West Germany in the 1970s or East Germany or in the 1960s? I submit that this is actually not a controversial statement, but in university campuses, it would be considered flamingly radical.
    Hereís another one. Men and women are not identical in their life priorities, in their sexuality, in their tastes and interests. This is not controversial to anyone who has even glanced at the data.
    Worldwide survey of thousands of people from different cultures had been taken, and men and women give different answers as to what they wanna do for a living and how much time they wanna allocate to family versus career and so on.
    These differences are universal, regardless of their race, religion, history, culture, and geographic location.
    Menís need to invent, manufacture, and improve tools and weapons throughout evolutionary history has made the male brain particularly strong on systemising (logically and rationally dealing with things), whereas womenís need to leave their natal group upon puberty and marry into a neighbouring group full of strangers has made the female brain particularly strong on empathising (relating to other people). Womenís need to take care of infants, by anticipating their needs when they cannot yet speak, also makes them better able to read othersí minds. At the same time, ancestral menís need to engage in solitary hunting and to wage wars against enemies has made their brains particularly low on empathising.
    A research have shown that childrenís toy preference may also be largely innate, because males and females of other species show the same preference. Male monkeys still prefer the cars and balls that human boys prefer, and female monkeys still prefer the dolls and cooking pots that human girls prefer. Since monkeys are not socialised by human parents, and they have not even seen these stereotypically masculine and feminine toys before the experiment, itís difficult to argue that their preferences for ďsex-appropriateĒ toys are learned.
    Preponderance of scientific evidence shows that men and women have entirely different brains, and such differences are evolutionarily designed and therefore innate.

    Hereís a third fact that is just not controversial, although it sounds controversial, and that is that different ethnic groups commit violent crimes at different rates. You can go to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Look it up on their website. The homicide rate among African Americans is about seven or eight times higher than it is among European Americans. And terrorism, go to the Global Terrorist Database, and you find that worldwide the overwhelming majority of suicide terrorist acts are committed by Islamist extremist groups.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    To the left, the idea of being a corporate slave to their profit is "exploitation and oppression", and to the right the idea of being a government slave to their profit is "exploitation and oppression".

    The left worships (exploits) the downtrodden, the gay, the tranny, the free-thinker, the atheist, the poor, etc.

    The right worships (exploits) the middle class, the traditionalist, the christian, the successful, the meritocracy, etc.

    MGTOW would be, "technically", left leaning, since it is breaking with tradition, breaking with religious compacts, breaking with the past. One's reasons for being MGTOW may be based on traditional ideals for marriage, or not finding suitable "moral" wives, but in the end it's a leftist concept, as much as feminism, despite how many think it's some right wing "red-pilled" system, simply because it's male centric.

    MGTOW, in and of itself, is not political. Marriage is a traditional concept, and a religious one (for most), but it certainly isn't political. People may want to make marriage a political grandstand point just like "climate change", "vaccinations", "gun rights", or all the other bullshit out there, but it inherently isn't political. It simply isn't participating in a system that supplies only liabilities and zero benefits. Huge upfront costs for a high percentage of unlimited liability. So some men are opting out.

    The problem of the "alt-right" is that they allowed themselves to be overrun with the most negative elements, and that allowed them to be defined by that. If they had been an alternative-right to the "mainstream" right where it was the more digital age, younger generation, politicos, that might have been a thing, but they allowed every POS to show up and become the main focus.

    Despite what the racist socialists (Nazis) want to pretend, it is a system based on hate. And it doesn't help when even the most casual of false-flag operators can go out there and wreck havoc with zero response to it from the "alt-right".

    When feminists lie about MGTOW demanding rape and female slavery and such, there is denouncement from MGTOW that it has zero to do with that, and when incel rape apologists and false flag operators try they're called out.

    The alt-right has, sadly, or not, decided to stand behind their racists, hate speakers, and general retards. Just like the left won't go after the BLM rioters and looters and the ANTIFA terrorists.

    They need to button up their "extremists", assuming they aren't that, and do some rebranding. The alt-right is associated with nationalism, which is hard enough to handle well, and pure racism, which is a hard thing for today's youth to tolerate. Trying to hide behind nonsense statistics is what feminists do. Remember, 7 out of 4 women are raped 15 times a day on college campuses.

    No one gives a shit about what happens in disease and war torn Africa, because there's 101 excuses already available, all of which blame white people. Whining about gun fire and crimes in black neighborhoods in America have 101 excuses already available, which all blame white people.

    Focusing more on the $8000000000 trillllllllion debt and spending would probably be a better option. It's not the "alt-right" shows a single bit of fiscal conservative ideology.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    From what I've seen and experienced, the Alt-Right may not actually exist. It seems to sort of be an umbrella-term for anything the mainstream Left doesn't like. Whether Nazi's or MGTOW or Incel or the Proud Boys or Philip Defranco or Tim Pool or Dave Rubin or whoever-else, it just seems to be a knee-jerk classification that the Left smears anyone with. There was a British celebrity a few years ago that said "men don't want to date feminists", because "everything is always a competition with them". That's a very reasonable and fairly Bluepill observation. Well the feminists immediately started shrieking about White Supremacy and deplatforming the "Alt-Right Extremist". So there's really no accurate definition of the Alt-Right, in any meaningful sense. I mean, I recognize that their certainly are conservative-leaning nutbags out there, but there is no coordination between them, and they frequently are opposed to each other. Over on .win, the Nazi's are almost militantly Bluepill... There's been flame wars.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    It's all about "Identity" now. If you look at Donald Trump for example, he had a some very Left wing friendly policies but because they simply didn't like him and because he is Republican they didn't like him at all. What were those policies? He wanted America to stop being world police man and getting involved in pointless wars, that is a classic Leftie thing since Vietnam especially.

    He also wanted to create jobs and wealth for people, how could that be a bad thing? Well, I know, the Left like to keep people on welfare.

    The Left also call anyone they disagree with a Nazi. It doesn't help anything especially when you consider the Communists killed many more people but they were on "Our" side during WW2 so it doesn't matter.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    Jeez.

    Iím nowhere as well read as some of the posters on this thread but if youíll permit me to put my tuppence worth in:

    Left-wing, right wing: itís all the same.

    Control the mind-set: Iím right and youíre wrong.

    The left wing castigates all opposing views as Nazism even though the Nazis were a socialist (left wing) force.

    The capitalist (right-wing) is equally at fault. At its extreme it is uncaring. Money and profit reigns supreme.

    The left (socialism / communism) seems to be about controlling how one thinks and acts, the right (capitalism) cares nothing about such things. Both are flawed. There needs to be balance.

    This is why I have a detestation of party politics. Everything is agenda driven instead of what is best for society in general.

    This is also reflected in society. Everything must be polarised.

    More and more today I see people becoming more intransigent. Youíre either with me or against me. There is no room for debate.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Jeez.

    I’m nowhere as well read as some of the posters on this thread but if you’ll permit me to put my tuppence worth in:

    Left-wing, right wing: it’s all the same.

    Control the mind-set: I’m right and you’re wrong.

    The left wing castigates all opposing views as Nazism even though the Nazis were a socialist (left wing) force.

    The capitalist (right-wing) is equally at fault. At its extreme it is uncaring. Money and profit reigns supreme.

    The left (socialism / communism) seems to be about controlling how one thinks and acts, the right (capitalism) cares nothing about such things. Both are flawed. There needs to be balance.

    This is why I have a detestation of party politics. Everything is agenda driven instead of what is best for society in general.

    This is also reflected in society. Everything must be polarised.

    More and more today I see people becoming more intransigent. You’re either with me or against me. There is no room for debate.
    That's my issue and lack of interest with politics as well. In many ways I align more with the conservative end but I can see some points on the other side and I don't like the idea of just following blindly because of identity or whatever.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    What can I say?

    You are obviously far more well versed than I, but I think we are in agreement for the most part.

    When I said “Capitalist – right wing” I meant this as the general conception.

    I have stated many times on this forum that I am against “isms”. Whether that be socialism, capitalism and any number of religious “isms”.

    They all seek to control mind-sets.

    This, IMO, strikes against the very notion of “Going Your Own Way” – thinking for yourself.

    YOU MUST COMPLY!

    My apologies for not being able to address your valid arguments, but I don’t tend to think in specific terms in these things. To do so ends up getting me mired in a quagmire of fact and fiction.

    Too many times I have come to an impasse on the minutia with people who I generally agree with.

    It never turns out well.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    Quote Originally Posted by bennettcclark View Post
    Here’s another one. Men and women are not identical in their life priorities, in their sexuality, in their tastes and interests. This is not controversial to anyone who has even glanced at the data.
    Another one: overwhelmingly most people are either male or female.

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    Re: The Left Doesnít Understand The Alt-Right

    The national socialists were doubly rightwing because they used nationalism to oppose both liberalism and its retarded cousin, communism.
    And yet what they wound up with: death camps, government by decree, propaganda films, domestic spying and brutality, aggressive war for territory, is pretty much indistinguishable from communism. Which makes me sometimes wonder if the whole "left wing/right wing" thing might be a colossal lie to make people think that people like - for instance - antifa are the antithesis of the brownshirts, when it is perfectly obvious that they are exactly the same.

    Doesn't the Extinction Rebellion logo strike you as the most fascist thing ever?


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