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    Geofencing Warrants Are a Threat to Privacy Google initially listed 5,723 devices in response to the warrant, then whittled the tally to exclude likely Capitol staff and police as well as anyone who wasn't "entirely within the geofence, to about a 70 percent probability." The final list of identifying details handed over to the FBI had 1,535 names. It included people whose phones had been turned off or put in airplane mode, and "people who attempted to delete their location data following the attacks were singled out by the FBI for greater scrutiny.
    In about 50 cases, Wired notes, "geofence data seems to have provided the initial identification of suspected rioters." Rhine is technically not among them—the FBI got a tip he'd been at the attack—but it was only through the geofencing warrant that agents were able to find surveillance footage showing him inside the building.
    And that gets us to what's troubling here: The Fourth Amendment requires search warrants to specify "probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." A geofencing warrant arguably allows law enforcement to work backward, to say, We think a crime was committed around this place and this time. Let's sweep up location data for everyone who was there and investigate them all.

    https://reason.com/2022/12/05/geofen...at-to-privacy/

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    No cell phone, no geo-collar, now what to do about the $600 IRS threshold and their 89,000 new (armed) hound dogs?

    Freedom is no longer free, never was, it's always being forced into smaller and smaller cages.
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    What kind of idiots take trackable phones to these things.

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    @mgtower IKR! $600.00 bucks ain't squat I routinely send my daughter in dental school twice that...

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    Re: Scary!

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    What kind of idiots take trackable phones to these things.
    Critical THINKING skills elude 90% of people that walk the planet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Handf View Post
    Critical THINKING skills elude 90% of people that walk the planet...
    Psychologically they're still slithering, on the ameba level!
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Handf View Post
    @mgtower IKR! $600.00 bucks ain't squat I routinely send my daughter in dental school twice that...
    All my dealings are gonna be done on the $599.95 level!

    I'm calling it! I'm coining it! I'll be one of the 599'ers!

    My IRS profile is kin to a Vietcong eking out a tunnel somewhere on the Ho Chi Minh trail!
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Handf View Post


    Geofencing Warrants Are a Threat to Privacy Google initially listed 5,723 devices in response to the warrant, then whittled the tally to exclude likely Capitol staff and police as well as anyone who wasn't "entirely within the geofence, to about a 70 percent probability." The final list of identifying details handed over to the FBI had 1,535 names. It included people whose phones had been turned off or put in airplane mode, and "people who attempted to delete their location data following the attacks were singled out by the FBI for greater scrutiny.
    In about 50 cases, Wired notes, "geofence data seems to have provided the initial identification of suspected rioters." Rhine is technically not among them—the FBI got a tip he'd been at the attack—but it was only through the geofencing warrant that agents were able to find surveillance footage showing him inside the building.
    And that gets us to what's troubling here: The Fourth Amendment requires search warrants to specify "probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." A geofencing warrant arguably allows law enforcement to work backward, to say, We think a crime was committed around this place and this time. Let's sweep up location data for everyone who was there and investigate them all.

    https://reason.com/2022/12/05/geofen...at-to-privacy/
    Honestly?

    What’s the problem here?

    Do we want to restrict our police forces from investigating the available evidence?

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    Re: Scary!

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    No cell phone, no geo-collar, now what to do about the $600 IRS threshold and their 89,000 new (armed) hound dogs?

    Freedom is no longer free, never was, it's always being forced into smaller and smaller cages.
    Hang 'em all. Fuck, hang every career politician. Every politician who got rich while doing their jobs!

    Those cunts are hunting Trump for being rich before he took a shot a presidency, but most of them got rich while doing jack shit, and all of them are Dems. Speaking with Mr. Garrison from Southpark's words: "fuck 'em all to death!"
    Lord Nerevar Reborn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resdayn View Post
    Hang 'em all. Fuck, hang every career politician. Every politician who got rich while doing their jobs!

    Those cunts are hunting Trump for being rich before he took a shot a presidency, but most of them got rich while doing jack shit, and all of them are Dems. Speaking with Mr. Garrison from Southpark's words: "fuck 'em all to death!"
    I'd fuck'em if I could! Instead I found my time and efforts are better spent unfucking myself! @ 3:34 PM today, I turned off my oil burner after finally hooking my indoor boiler to my outdoor wood furnace, @ 6:21 PM I took my first wood fired hot shower, the rest of the night I'll be monitoring boiler temps and fine tuning the system.

    Heating costs are now slashed to $0.00 and all 4 of my thermostats are turned UP!

    Now to start on that back yard compressed hydrogen syn-gas pyrolysis refinery I've been talking about, so I can substitute my propane and gasoline needs.
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Re: Scary!

    Law enforcement has been using cell-phone tracking for years to place where a suspect was in relation to a crime. It's not brain surgery to realize anyone carrying a phone near the Capitol on 6 January 2021 would have been tracked.

    Making yourself even more obvious, like the guy wearing the horns and the facial makeup, worked real well for him too, didn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Honestly?

    What’s the problem here?

    Do we want to restrict our police forces from investigating the available evidence?
    I am hoping this is cynical in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    All my dealings are gonna be done on the $599.95 level!

    I'm calling it! I'm coining it! I'll be one of the 599'ers!

    My IRS profile is kin to a Vietcong eking out a tunnel somewhere on the Ho Chi Minh trail!
    Since the red flag for any bank deposits have been $10,000 for quite a few decades, people have routinely done a number of $9,999 deposits to prevent Sauron's eye from catching them. The $599 Venmo transactions are just a natural progression along the same lines.
    Government moves like a wounded wildebeast, it's easy to maneuver around it. Rising the tax on cigarettes? Ship them in from out of state to circumvent it. Prohibit alcohol? Distill it yourself at home. The list goes on and on but the point is that whatever heavy handed bullshit the government is implementing, it's easy to run circles around it without them knowing what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris007 View Post
    Since the red flag for any bank deposits have been $10,000 for quite a few decades, people have routinely done a number of $9,999 deposits to prevent Sauron's eye from catching them. The $599 Venmo transactions are just a natural progression along the same lines.
    Government moves like a wounded wildebeast, it's easy to maneuver around it. Rising the tax on cigarettes? Ship them in from out of state to circumvent it. Prohibit alcohol? Distill it yourself at home. The list goes on and on but the point is that whatever heavy handed bullshit the government is implementing, it's easy to run circles around it without them knowing what's going on.
    Did you ever try to keep your eye on 300 million people? for 86,000 new agent Smiths, that's 286,666 sheeple to each shepherd, that's like finding one person in a city, and when it comes to people like me, they don't like searching the storm water and sewer systems. When did you ever see agent Smith put on hip waders?
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Re: Scary!

    IRS usually goes after the low hanging fruit. And there's plenty of it out there, enough for 86,000 new agents. Most people are completely clueless. If you only take even the most minimal precautions not to be caught, they won't even know you exist.


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