Thread: Kicking my alcohol problem

Originally Posted by mgtower

Maybe next time he'll pay the piper when there's a couple dead bodies under his car.

In Massachusetts you can get a DUI (here called OUI) if you're on a horse and the horse is sober, they won't accept a plea that the horse was a designated driver. Everything's against the law in Massachusetts!

OUI?

I had to google it because I’d never heard the term before:

Operating Under the Influence?

Does it only refer to operating “things” e.g. cars, horses, skateboards etc.? Or could it refer to “being operational” i.e. – walking home?

Here in Ireland we can be prosecuted for being intoxicated in public. I kid you not.

If this law was to be implemented here half the population would be in the slammer and the other half would be awaiting their court date.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

OUI?

I had to google it because I’d never heard the term before:

Operating Under the Influence?

Does it only refer to operating “things” e.g. cars, horses, skateboards etc.? Or could it refer to “being operational” i.e. – walking home?

Here in Ireland we can be prosecuted for being intoxicated in public. I kid you not.

If this law was to be implemented here half the population would be in the slammer and the other half would be awaiting their court date.

In Massachusetts they write the laws to mean anything! Anything at all! Making us all criminals with more lawyers per capita than anywhere in the WORLD! Here it's common to see 50 to 100 lawyers chasing an ambulance!

I witnessed my neighbor get a​ OWI on his riding mower!

Originally Posted by mgtower

Maybe next time he'll pay the piper when there's a couple dead bodies under his car.

In Massachusetts you can get a DUI (here called OUI) if you're on a horse and the horse is sober, they won't accept a plea that the horse was a designated driver. Everything's against the law in Massachusetts!

He can have a church choir under his car and nothing will happen to him. Liberal democrats get away with little to no trouble. It's funny you mentioned DUIs and Massachusetts. Don't forget about drunk Uncle Teddy Kennedy. He literally killed a woman. He left her to die. What did he care anyway? He got his rocks off and the erection was over. Nothing bad ever happened to him.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

OUI?

I had to google it because I’d never heard the term before:

Operating Under the Influence?

Does it only refer to operating “things” e.g. cars, horses, skateboards etc.? Or could it refer to “being operational” i.e. – walking home?

Here in Ireland we can be prosecuted for being intoxicated in public. I kid you not.

If this law was to be implemented here half the population would be in the slammer and the other half would be awaiting their court date.

The cops here in America are scumbags. If someone attacks you then nothing will happen. If you get caught not using a turn signal then you literally get the whole police force with their cop car lights flashing.

Good for you. You recognized it. You admitted it to yourself. You took responsibility for it, instead of blaming circumstances or minimizing it. I come from a family of alcoholics, so I know, that is no mean feat. And you've been sober two years. That's awesome.

Good luck quitting smoking. I know that's a tough one, too.

Does it only refer to operating “things” e.g. cars, horses, skateboards etc.? Or could it refer to “being operational” i.e. – walking home?

Here in Ireland we can be prosecuted for being intoxicated in public. I kid you not.

Here, it depends on the State and Municipality...and whether the authorities feel like enforcing it. For instance, where I live, we have a big motorcycle rally every Summer. The police won't even try to enforce intoxicated in public laws during that time. The rest of the time, it really depends on how much of a spectacle the drunk is making of himself, who he's offending, etc. If you want to get a laugh out of it, go onto YT and look up Ron White's "They Call me Tater-Salad" routine. He has a humorous take on getting arrested for being drunk in public.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

The cops here in America are scumbags. If someone attacks you then nothing will happen. If you get caught not using a turn signal then you literally get the whole police force with their cop car lights flashing.

Sorry, but this is gross exaggeration and over generalization. Scumbag cops are actually very few and far between. If you for the most part obey the law and don’t have a mile long rap sheet and a shitty attitude, you’ll be fine with 99% of cops.

If you don’t agree with the laws, that needs to be taken up with the legislators. The cops enforce the laws on the books and in general are damn good at it.

Painting them all with the same brush as some asshole like Derek Chauvin does more harm than anything.

Originally Posted by Survivor64

Sorry, but this is gross exaggeration and over generalization. Scumbag cops are actually very few and far between. If you for the most part obey the law and don’t have a mile long rap sheet and a shitty attitude, you’ll be fine with 99% of cops.

If you don’t agree with the laws, that needs to be taken up with the legislators. The cops enforce the laws on the books and in general are damn good at it.

Painting them all with the same brush as some asshole like Derek Chauvin does more harm than anything.

I can't speak for the cops in other countries, but here in Ireland they're generally good guys (and gals) and unless you give them reason to take notice they'll leave you be.

Hell, it's not unusual to see cops on the street here just friendly chatting with their friends or other members of the public.

Originally Posted by Survivor64

Sorry, but this is gross exaggeration and over generalization. Scumbag cops are actually very few and far between. If you for the most part obey the law and don’t have a mile long rap sheet and a shitty attitude, you’ll be fine with 99% of cops.

Some turn a blind eye to their fellow officer's transgressions to get along. Plenty show favoritism to individuals or groups. A few use their badges like credit cards. Others take what comes along, but don't actively go after cash and prizes. Dirty cops are anything but few and far between. Are most only partly dirty? Well yeah, but that different from being squeaky clean.

A pal got robbed, and since the crooks had pretended to be government types to get in the door, real cops took it serious. We was lucky and a neighbor saw which way the crooks went. They was caught an hour away and got 15 years. It would of been a happy ending if the County Sheriffs hadn't treated it like a shopping trip. The neighbor didn't get half his stuff back. The crooks didn't have their loot long enough to get rid of anything. The Sheriff's played dumb and said that's all they recovered.

Update: I was very close on a relapse recently. Sitting at a restaurant and ordered a non alc beer. At least that's what I thought it was and what the main sticker said on the bottle. After having had 2 beers I thought "WTF? I'm feeling alcohol in my system!" So I read the small print and it turned out there was 0.3% in it! I talked to the waitress about that and she was genuinely in shock. I believe she didn't know either.

"So, what are you bitching about, Simp? That 0,3%?" No I'm not bitching about that tiny bit. What I am bitching about was my initial reflex thought "Well, I might as well order a real one now." Luckily I refrained. My advice to men who want to kick their problem too is to very closely double check what you're ordering. I felt that 0,3% because I lost all my alcohol tolerance. And the insidious effect of alcohol is it impairs your decision making.

Originally Posted by RedPilledSimp

Update: I was very close on a relapse recently. Sitting at a restaurant and ordered a non alc beer. At least that's what I thought it was and what the main sticker said on the bottle. After having had 2 beers I thought "WTF? I'm feeling alcohol in my system!" So I read the small print and it turned out there was 0.3% in it! I talked to the waitress about that and she was genuinely in shock. I believe she didn't know either.

"So, what are you bitching about, Simp? That 0,3%?" No I'm not bitching about that tiny bit. What I am bitching about was my initial reflex thought "Well, I might as well order a real one now." Luckily I refrained. My advice to men who want to kick their problem too is to very closely double check what you're ordering. I felt that 0,3% because I lost all my alcohol tolerance. And the insidious effect of alcohol is it impairs your decision making.

In recent years here laws were brought in to remove alcoholic beverages from the normal shelves in supermarkets – there has to be a separate alcohol section much like an off-licence, yet you pay for it all at the same time at the same till?

But lately I’ve seen non-alcohol versions of popular beers appearing outside this cordoned-off area. I had put it down to advertising techniques, but what you say here suggests something even more under-handed.

We used to have drinks here labelled as “shandy”, stocked with the colas and lemonades that had minimal alcohol content and could be bought even by kids. That was banned and the drinks disappeared.

From what you say, maybe they’re making their way back under the radar. They proclaim things like 0.0% alcohol, but how many of us read the fine print if it’s even made available.

What is the level of variance on these proclamations? Could 0.0% actually mean anything up to 0.5%? Or more?

Originally Posted by Jackoff

In recent years here laws were brought in to remove alcoholic beverages from the normal shelves in supermarkets – there has to be a separate alcohol section much like an off-licence, yet you pay for it all at the same time at the same till?

But lately I’ve seen non-alcohol versions of popular beers appearing outside this cordoned-off area. I had put it down to advertising techniques, but what you say here suggests something even more under-handed.

We used to have drinks here labelled as “shandy”, stocked with the colas and lemonades that had minimal alcohol content and could be bought even by kids. That was banned and the drinks disappeared.

From what you say, maybe they’re making their way back under the radar. They proclaim things like 0.0% alcohol, but how many of us read the fine print if it’s even made available.

What is the level of variance on these proclamations? Could 0.0% actually mean anything up to 0.5%? Or more?

I actually don't know. Not much of a law/ rule fetishist TBH. However I do believe there will always be very small amounts of alcohol left in 0% drinks. But those should be unnoticeable. It was mostly my first impulse that really startled me.

Originally Posted by RedPilledSimp

Update: I was very close on a relapse recently. Sitting at a restaurant and ordered a non alc beer. At least that's what I thought it was and what the main sticker said on the bottle. After having had 2 beers I thought "WTF? I'm feeling alcohol in my system!" So I read the small print and it turned out there was 0.3% in it! I talked to the waitress about that and she was genuinely in shock. I believe she didn't know either.

"So, what are you bitching about, Simp? That 0,3%?" No I'm not bitching about that tiny bit. What I am bitching about was my initial reflex thought "Well, I might as well order a real one now." Luckily I refrained. My advice to men who want to kick their problem too is to very closely double check what you're ordering. I felt that 0,3% because I lost all my alcohol tolerance. And the insidious effect of alcohol is it impairs your decision making.

Good advice and I'm glad you refrained.

I'm not surprised at the 0.3%. Remnants of processing, I imagine. Years ago I read that, in the USA, fast-food restaurants could serve beef containing up to 10% fat and advertise it as 100% lean beef. The explanation I got was if they did not do that and instead actually stated it was 90% lean beef, the public might demand better and trigger a competition to drive it towards an actual 100%, a processing impossibility and also would unnecessarily increase the price of the product for whatever gains were actually achieved. So, if you let them advertise 90% lean beef as 100% lean beef, all of that is avoided and the public thinks they have the best.

Our Food and Drug Administration allows foods to contain up to 0.5 grams of trans fat per serving and still be labeled as having zero grams of trans fat. The trick, I believe, is the manufacturers may have to juggle the serving size with the trans fat amount such that it falls below that line.

You reflex thought is the one I don't want to have, where I give in because something happened.

That's why I don't imitate the drinking of alcohol such as non-alcohol beers. I don't drink Martinelli's non-alcohol champagne at holidays. I just avoid orbiting the drinking lifestyle. I'm an ex-drinker. I mean, why pretend at it?

Moving to Seattle presented a challenge because they like food here and have no problem spiking the food with alcohol, like at restaurants. I think they are better about disclosure than they used to be.

Also, I have heard all my life when people put wine into their cooking (or beer into their chili pot) that it "burns off". Everybody says that to each other. "Oh, but you get the flavor." I thought about it and decided that makes no sense; nothing can burn off unless it's burning which means it's on fire with flames. Since when are my meals on fire? I figured it was a myth. I did some online investigation and discovered I was right. Generally, the alcohol may diminish but not disappear altogether. Here's just one article of many that I had found. I've had people say to me with such confidence, "Oh, it burns off!" to which I'd say," then why add it to the food?" For those people who really want to debate it, on occasion I've asked if I could pour the same amount of urine into the food and tell them that it burns off, asking them would they believe me for merely having said those words? No, they usually snap out of their hypnosis at that point, at least to give my position a better consideration. I might follow up by saying as much as they do not like the idea of urine in their food whether it burns off or not, I do not like the idea of alcohol in my food and I know alcohol does not burn off.

It's been an education for me and others.