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    Exclamation How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    How many of you are Trump fans? And voted for Trump?

    I voted for Trump in 2016, and in 2020. I liked many of what he did. However, things that upset me most was, fixing the women's whore life. To me, that was stupid, and being the Captain-Save-A-Hoe.

    TRUMP iS NOT MGTOW. I like the fact, he is smart on many things, but saving women from whore life, isn't. I mean, he just banned women's whore life on Craigslist in personal sex. OH, because he's concern about sex trafficking. Don't fix what isn't broken! You fat idiot! Stlck to what you fucking know, and to business side.

    Sometime, I can see why liberals called him an Idiot. Because he's doing something in he has no business in. I understand that Trump wants to fix America's infrastructure, and whatever else, But he needs to stick to those those things, not our personal lives.

    It's like the democrats pretending to care by sticking their hateful nose in our personal life, when it isn't needed.

    I don't know If I want to vote for Donald Trump in 2024, this time around. He mess with something he shouldn't be messing with, and it's our decisions to do so. He's need to do what he has been hired to do, "FIX AMERICA'S INFRASTRUCTURE". Not mess with our lives that we prefer doing.


    How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    I don't know If I want to vote for Donald Trump in 2024, this time around.
    Would you rather have another 4 years of Biden: inflation, lack of boarder security, war in Ukraine, schools teaching hate, division, critical race theory, gay/transgenderism to kids? I'll take Trump anytime. Trump is way better than anything we have now.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Internationally, here's the things I can recall without looking anything up:

    Trump undid the 10-year Iran Nuclear Deal, a sucker's agreement that scared me and I definitely did not go for. So, I liked Trump for that.

    Trump went after the NATO members who were not contributing their full 2% GNP member fee but were letting us help pay for them instead, long after they became able to pay for it themselves but had kept their mouths shut while we played the fool. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump stood up to China. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump kept North Korea at bay even while everybody and his brother were convinced that electing Trump would start a nuclear war. I liked Trump for his cunning.

    Trump recognized Jerusalem as the true capital of Israel while everyone else was afraid of consequences. That took balls, and I admire Trump for that.

    Strongly re-strengthened our military. Established the Space Force. I like Trump for that.


    Domestically:

    Trump finally made us energy independent and we were selling excess to other countries. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump got unemployment rates for blacks to an historic low. The black community at one point called Trump the first black president, replacing Bill Clinton from that position. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump helped our farmers. I liked Trump for that.

    Under Trump, Opportunity Zones were created in our country, to encourage investment and job growth in our low-income communities. I credit Trump for that.

    Trump ended NAFTA, an agreement which, as a worker, I hated. He replaced it with USMCA which protects American manufacturers and workers much better.

    And then there's the border wall, taking strong action to stop the flow of illegals into our country. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump promoted "America First" and by the above actions, he walked this talk. I liked Trump for that. He enforced a distinction between citizenship and non-citizenship, something that is very important to me ever since I read the short story, The Man Without a Country as a young boy.

    Trump is not pro-choice and I like that.


    So, you can see that Trump is quite capable of addressing more than one issue at a time.

    Most women I talk to or read about stay uninformed on the international politics scene but worry most about vagina-related issues. Too shallow for words, but that's what separates the men from the women, I believe. Women tend to stay domestic in their politics. Ha, isn't that a bit funny I can say it that way?

    In 2016, Trump to me was an unknown (I never watched The Apprentice, for instance) and I was not used to his brash style. By this time I had left the Democrat Party, my life-long affiliation, and I certainly was not going to vote for Hillary. Hmm... do I vote from the heart for whom I really prefer, or do I vote strategically for whomever could prevent Hillary from becoming president? Which way to I go? After much self-searching and deliberation, I voted for whom I thought would be best, Gary Johnson, even when there was an issue or two with which I disagreed with him.

    (My favorite joke at the time: People would ask me why I voted third-party. I told them, while many people wanted to feel the Bern (support for Bernie Sanders), I realized that I what I really wanted to do was feel the Johnson. Such a good joke in mixed company. The men would laugh and the women did not get it. LOL)

    I soon saw beyond Trump's style and into his intent and actions. I voted for him in 2020 and would vote for him in 2024 easily, to restore America to what he had made it to be before Biden undid it all.

    Yeah, I think the infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.) was not addressed nearly like I believe it should have been, if at all. And then Biden broadened the definition of infrastructure to smuggle in some non-infrastructure voter-ass-kissing entitlements into his plan. Disgusting.

    I also think that, while the wall was being built, both Trump and Congress could have made visible efforts to address/fix the stalled and ineffective processes already in place to deal with the existing non-citizens in the USA, to fix the path to citizenship, an ongoing issue. Instead, seems to me in the media the whole discussion turned into a Wall or No Wall polarized fight. It should have been a multi-faceted conversation. Still needs to be.

    I hope women and anyone else will look past Trump's style and into what he can do, and did, for our country, if he runs in 2024.

    Mean tweets are nothing to worry about as they were for liberals in 2000.


    Anyway, those are the things I pulled from my thoughts. I just found this much longer list, for consideration:

    Trump Administration Accomplishments


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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    I would vote for Trump hands down! But I can't, my voting rights are under CEASE AND DESIST and the neighborhood shut down and legally closed for all purposes public and private with the threat of fines and imprisonment for any person that disobeys the order and breaks the law. Not even Trump could fix this shithole!
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    Would you rather have another 4 years of Biden: inflation, lack of boarder security, war in Ukraine, schools teaching hate, division, critical race theory, gay/transgenderism to kids? I'll take Trump anytime. Trump is way better than anything we have now.
    NO, I won't vote for Biden! Fuck this democrat. I have voted for TRUMP in 2016 and 2020. But I see your point, though.

    Actually, my question is, did anyone see the Documentary: 2,000 Mules by Filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza??? It was very good.

    We need to do something for the fraud thing!!! Most of our politicians won't do a damn thing. We need American people to rise up, and take back and replace it with our American issues.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Internationally, here's the things I can recall without looking anything up:

    Trump undid the 10-year Iran Nuclear Deal, a sucker's agreement that scared me and I definitely did not go for. So, I liked Trump for that.

    Trump went after the NATO members who were not contributing their full 2% GNP member fee but were letting us help pay for them instead, long after they became able to pay for it themselves but had kept their mouths shut while we played the fool. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump stood up to China. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump kept North Korea at bay even while everybody and his brother were convinced that electing Trump would start a nuclear war. I liked Trump for his cunning.

    Trump recognized Jerusalem as the true capital of Israel while everyone else was afraid of consequences. That took balls, and I admire Trump for that.

    Strongly re-strengthened our military. Established the Space Force. I like Trump for that.


    Domestically:

    Trump finally made us energy independent and we were selling excess to other countries. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump got unemployment rates for blacks to an historic low. The black community at one point called Trump the first black president, replacing Bill Clinton from that position. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump helped our farmers. I liked Trump for that.

    Under Trump, Opportunity Zones were created in our country, to encourage investment and job growth in our low-income communities. I credit Trump for that.

    Trump ended NAFTA, an agreement which, as a worker, I hated. He replaced it with USMCA which protects American manufacturers and workers much better.

    And then there's the border wall, taking strong action to stop the flow of illegals into our country. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump promoted "America First" and by the above actions, he walked this talk. I liked Trump for that. He enforced a distinction between citizenship and non-citizenship, something that is very important to me ever since I read the short story, The Man Without a Country as a young boy.

    Trump is not pro-choice and I like that.


    So, you can see that Trump is quite capable of addressing more than one issue at a time.

    Most women I talk to or read about stay uninformed on the international politics scene but worry most about vagina-related issues. Too shallow for words, but that's what separates the men from the women, I believe. Women tend to stay domestic in their politics. Ha, isn't that a bit funny I can say it that way?

    In 2016, Trump to me was an unknown (I never watched The Apprentice, for instance) and I was not used to his brash style. By this time I had left the Democrat Party, my life-long affiliation, and I certainly was not going to vote for Hillary. Hmm... do I vote from the heart for whom I really prefer, or do I vote strategically for whomever could prevent Hillary from becoming president? Which way to I go? After much self-searching and deliberation, I voted for whom I thought would be best, Gary Johnson, even when there was an issue or two with which I disagreed with him.

    (My favorite joke at the time: People would ask me why I voted third-party. I told them, while many people wanted to feel the Bern (support for Bernie Sanders), I realized that I what I really wanted to do was feel the Johnson. Such a good joke in mixed company. The men would laugh and the women did not get it. LOL)

    I soon saw beyond Trump's style and into his intent and actions. I voted for him in 2020 and would vote for him in 2024 easily, to restore America to what he had made it to be before Biden undid it all.

    Yeah, I think the infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.) was not addressed nearly like I believe it should have been, if at all. And then Biden broadened the definition of infrastructure to smuggle in some non-infrastructure voter-ass-kissing entitlements into his plan. Disgusting.

    I also think that, while the wall was being built, both Trump and Congress could have made visible efforts to address/fix the stalled and ineffective processes already in place to deal with the existing non-citizens in the USA, to fix the path to citizenship, an ongoing issue. Instead, seems to me in the media the whole discussion turned into a Wall or No Wall polarized fight. It should have been a multi-faceted conversation. Still needs to be.

    I hope women and anyone else will look past Trump's style and into what he can do, and did, for our country, if he runs in 2024.

    Mean tweets are nothing to worry about as they were for liberals in 2000.


    Anyway, those are the things I pulled from my thoughts. I just found this much longer list, for consideration:

    Trump Administration Accomplishments


    Whatever ya do, please do not vote Democrat in November or in 2024!
    I see that you're much more informed than I and I recognized most of them, some of them were talking points of the trump campaign.

    I won't vote Democrat in November or in 2024! I have seen enough damage done by democrats. I almost was one, until a scandal in 2013, when Barak Obama was President. The Obama administration murdered a very well-known conservative journalist reporter Andrew Breitbart, when he was about to expose the Obama administration for lying to the American people. And they fucking covered it up. The obama administration was a very evil organization.

    And now we have this evil Biden administration.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    In years past I wouldn't have voted Trump, he didn't get where he is being nice. But times have changed. Uncle Joe's nothing but a spokesperson for the one percent and will never make a decision they don't approve of. I can't think of a single thing he's done that's helped the little guy. Before that, they tried to stick us with Hillory. They won't get my vote, though it won't matter much, my states historically blue.

    I didn't like it when the rich owned 90% of the country. But those days look jaw dropping rich compared to now. What a mess.
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    Actually, my question is, did anyone see the Documentary: 2,000 Mules by Filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza??? It was very good.
    It's been sitting on my desk, unopened, for about 2 weeks. I'm waiting to visit my brother to watch it with him.
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    My partner in my tshirt business and I go back and forth on this, especially since almost all of out stuff is anti Biden/pro Trump. Leading up to the scamdemic I loved the guy and believed that he was playing 4D chess. Then he shut down the country, gave hundreds of billions to state governors who hated him, kept the worst staff humanly possible - in short, I think he sold out. I know all the reasons why he would, the deep state is very powerful. I had hoped a man of his age, having lived such an extravagant lifestyle for his whole life might 'jump on the grenade' for our country and at the bare minimum expose all the secrets on the way out the door. So he gets whacked at 80??? No dice, at this point I feel he's controlled opposition, much like Alex Jones has sadly become.

    Plus, there's other potential candidates who don't brink the baggage Trump will be dragging into the campaign. Personally, I will never vote again as the whole thing is so rigged why waste my time anymore. I'm done participating in their game.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    It is really hard to make a decision if your options are a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

    Maybe you should vote for a different party this time.

    Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? To do the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard View Post
    It is really hard to make a decision if your options are a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

    Maybe you should vote for a different party this time.
    That's more or less what my old man used to say. He didn't vote either.

    I could vote for a different party, but it wouldn't help. The lesser parties in my state get maybe one or two percent of the votes. I'd be long dead before they catch up, if they ever do.
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    I would vote for Trump again, hands down. Nothing else even compares to him, his approach to politics, and his love of this country.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Internationally, here's the things I can recall without looking anything up:

    Trump undid the 10-year Iran Nuclear Deal, a sucker's agreement that scared me and I definitely did not go for. So, I liked Trump for that.

    Trump went after the NATO members who were not contributing their full 2% GNP member fee but were letting us help pay for them instead, long after they became able to pay for it themselves but had kept their mouths shut while we played the fool. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump stood up to China. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump kept North Korea at bay even while everybody and his brother were convinced that electing Trump would start a nuclear war. I liked Trump for his cunning.

    Trump recognized Jerusalem as the true capital of Israel while everyone else was afraid of consequences. That took balls, and I admire Trump for that.

    Strongly re-strengthened our military. Established the Space Force. I like Trump for that.


    Domestically:

    Trump finally made us energy independent and we were selling excess to other countries. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump got unemployment rates for blacks to an historic low. The black community at one point called Trump the first black president, replacing Bill Clinton from that position. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump helped our farmers. I liked Trump for that.

    Under Trump, Opportunity Zones were created in our country, to encourage investment and job growth in our low-income communities. I credit Trump for that.

    Trump ended NAFTA, an agreement which, as a worker, I hated. He replaced it with USMCA which protects American manufacturers and workers much better.

    And then there's the border wall, taking strong action to stop the flow of illegals into our country. I liked Trump for that.

    Trump promoted "America First" and by the above actions, he walked this talk. I liked Trump for that. He enforced a distinction between citizenship and non-citizenship, something that is very important to me ever since I read the short story, The Man Without a Country as a young boy.

    Trump is not pro-choice and I like that.


    So, you can see that Trump is quite capable of addressing more than one issue at a time.

    Most women I talk to or read about stay uninformed on the international politics scene but worry most about vagina-related issues. Too shallow for words, but that's what separates the men from the women, I believe. Women tend to stay domestic in their politics. Ha, isn't that a bit funny I can say it that way?

    In 2016, Trump to me was an unknown (I never watched The Apprentice, for instance) and I was not used to his brash style. By this time I had left the Democrat Party, my life-long affiliation, and I certainly was not going to vote for Hillary. Hmm... do I vote from the heart for whom I really prefer, or do I vote strategically for whomever could prevent Hillary from becoming president? Which way to I go? After much self-searching and deliberation, I voted for whom I thought would be best, Gary Johnson, even when there was an issue or two with which I disagreed with him.

    (My favorite joke at the time: People would ask me why I voted third-party. I told them, while many people wanted to feel the Bern (support for Bernie Sanders), I realized that I what I really wanted to do was feel the Johnson. Such a good joke in mixed company. The men would laugh and the women did not get it. LOL)

    I soon saw beyond Trump's style and into his intent and actions. I voted for him in 2020 and would vote for him in 2024 easily, to restore America to what he had made it to be before Biden undid it all.

    Yeah, I think the infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.) was not addressed nearly like I believe it should have been, if at all. And then Biden broadened the definition of infrastructure to smuggle in some non-infrastructure voter-ass-kissing entitlements into his plan. Disgusting.

    I also think that, while the wall was being built, both Trump and Congress could have made visible efforts to address/fix the stalled and ineffective processes already in place to deal with the existing non-citizens in the USA, to fix the path to citizenship, an ongoing issue. Instead, seems to me in the media the whole discussion turned into a Wall or No Wall polarized fight. It should have been a multi-faceted conversation. Still needs to be.

    I hope women and anyone else will look past Trump's style and into what he can do, and did, for our country, if he runs in 2024.

    Mean tweets are nothing to worry about as they were for liberals in 2000.


    Anyway, those are the things I pulled from my thoughts. I just found this much longer list, for consideration:

    Trump Administration Accomplishments


    Whatever ya do, please do not vote Democrat in November or in 2024!
    Forgive me as an outsider putting “his oar in” as it were. Maybe an outsider view may be of benefit though? I dunno.

    I took little interest in American politics until Trump and had a general view of interruption policies and since Trump I have returned to that viewpoint.

    Trump did himself no favours with his outlandish comments about his “reign”, about being the best thing since sliced bread.

    Unfortunately most people can’t (or don’t wish to) discriminate between the word and the deed.

    So many times I watched his speeches where he would come off with preposterous claims and detected a glint in his eye or a brief smile on lips that denoted a sense of humour about the whole thing.

    When it came to his policies however I detected no such humour. They were all (IMO) based in sound judgement, whether you agree or disagree with that judgement depends on how far you’ve been duped.

    What the left / MSM did to Trump was IMO disgraceful behaviour totally ignoring the facts and relying on emotive reactions to sway opinions.

    Why?

    Because he refuses to toe the line!

    IMO

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Forgive me as an outsider putting “his oar in” as it were. Maybe an outsider view may be of benefit though? I dunno.

    I took little interest in American politics until Trump and had a general view of interruption policies and since Trump I have returned to that viewpoint.

    Trump did himself no favours with his outlandish comments about his “reign”, about being the best thing since sliced bread.

    Unfortunately most people can’t (or don’t wish to) discriminate between the word and the deed.

    So many times I watched his speeches where he would come off with preposterous claims and detected a glint in his eye or a brief smile on lips that denoted a sense of humour about the whole thing.

    When it came to his policies however I detected no such humour. They were all (IMO) based in sound judgement, whether you agree or disagree with that judgement depends on how far you’ve been duped.

    What the left / MSM did to Trump was IMO disgraceful behaviour totally ignoring the facts and relying on emotive reactions to sway opinions.

    Why?

    Because he refuses to toe the line!

    IMO


    I actually don't care about his "outlandish" behavior. Because most other Americans like myself only cared about results. And Trump did get results. And I'm very pleased with him. Just that Trump, needs to continue his promise. And he didn't break any of them. He's a man, most or some mgtow would vote for. I think MGTOWER like myself, prefers to keeps his freedom, and that's what most mgtows are going for.

    So, Trump is the man for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    I actually don't care about his "outlandish" behavior. Because most other Americans like myself only cared about results. And Trump did get results. And I'm very pleased with him. Just that Trump, needs to continue his promise. And he didn't break any of them. He's a man, most or some mgtow would vote for. I think MGTOWER like myself, prefers to keeps his freedom, and that's what most mgtows are going for.

    So, Trump is the man for the job.
    I think someone needs to cripple the political swamp machine instead of the political swamp machine crippling us!
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    I'm not American but I think Trump or someone like him will be back in next election. When you have someone like Biden who is hailed as a messiah and promises to fix all the ills of the country and then spectacularly fails, like he has been doing then people become jaded very quickly and see what they just voted out was actually much better after all.

    I've also read that Left wing Governments tend to worse after they have held power, this is because everyone experiences how crap they are and vote them out. I also find it very odd how many shootings there has been in America of late, under Biden, a Left winger! Interesting.

    I'm just a very casual observer of politics but I also find it interesting how they keep Kamala out of the limelight. No one likes her.

    We will get the same here in Australia next election. We have just elected a Left wing nut job and he is already making promises for his Third term in office! (In Australia a Prime Minister can stay in office for as long as they keep winning elections). He will be lucky to get a second the way he has been so far and it's only been a month.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    That's more or less what my old man used to say. He didn't vote either.

    I could vote for a different party, but it wouldn't help. The lesser parties in my state get maybe one or two percent of the votes. I'd be long dead before they catch up, if they ever do.
    He is a wise men. There was a time when politicians or rulers feared death if they didn't behave as they promised. There was a time when morals and rationality were ideals to reach an optimal society. These times are long over. There are no longer citizens in our states but consumers which differentiate themselfs from another only in the severity of their enslavement. And because there are no longer citizens, there is no counterpart to the rulers.

    Who is to blame? The fools or the fools who are following the fools?
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    I'd vote for DeSantis, but not for Trump -- unless it were Trump vs. Biden and those were my only choices.

    I have mixed feelings about Trump. He was successful economically, and I liked a lot of his policies and appointments. But his personality... what a narcissist. He loved drama and conflict so much, it really got in the way. He would say things that would make me smack my head -- how stupid and petty can you be? It was all about him; he didn't share credit. He didn't surround himself with diverse opinions; he surrounded himself with yes-men. He alienated people. He was a bully. He loved attention. Every day it was something else. It was draining. It was constant drama with him, and I got sick of it. I think a lot of Americans did. (I did vote for him against Biden, though, because I despised how the Dems had behaved for the past 4 years and thought their policies sounded idiotic.)

    Trump is a wounded candidate. If he would've handled his exit gracefully, he might have a chance in 2024. But the Jan. 6th thing is a real stain on him, particularly after the other impeachments and scandals. He should've put on his big boy pants and accepted defeat like a man. But narcissists do not accept defeat easily. (To be clear, I think Jan. 6th has been exaggerated and hyped by the mainstream media, and I'm sick of hearing about it. But it has undoubtedly caused a stain on Trump's legitimacy as a candidate.)

    I'd be fine with voting for DeSantis. I hope he runs. I hope Trump stays out of it, but that doesn't sound like Trump.

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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    I liked many of Trump's policies. I could mostly forgive his clownish behaviors.

    I can NEVER forgive the most telling 60 seconds of his life.

    "Let's walk down to the Capitol. I'll be there with you. We need to fight!" Then he hops in the Presidential limo and heads home.

    Not here to argue if the 1/06 folks were right or wrong about the election. I am here to say he turned those people into the very definition of the political term useful idiots. To me that's as low as it gets.

    If Trump truly thought the election was stolen. That a great fraud had been perpetrated on our country. That forceful action was required to stop it. There is only one place he belonged. At the head of the pack. Also known as a leader.

    I'm no commie by a long shot. I only post these photos to underline the difference. One man truly felt force was needed to save his country. The other wanted useful idiots to do the dirty work.



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    As others have said there is a good chance Trump would fuck that up.
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    Re: How many of you will or won't vote for Donald Trump in 2024?? I mean, he does care about America, though. And he shows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    I liked many of Trump's policies. I could mostly forgive his clownish behaviors.

    I can NEVER forgive the most telling 60 seconds of his life.

    "Let's walk down to the Capitol. I'll be there with you. We need to fight!" Then he hops in the Presidential limo and heads home.

    Not here to argue if the 1/06 folks were right or wrong about the election. I am here to say he turned those people into the very definition of the political term useful idiots. To me that's as low as it gets.

    If Trump truly thought the election was stolen. That a great fraud had been perpetrated on our country. That forceful action was required to stop it. There is only one place he belonged. At the head of the pack. Also known as a leader.

    I'm no commie by a long shot. I only post these photos to underline the difference. One man truly felt force was needed to save his country. The other wanted useful idiots to do the dirty work.



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    DeSantis 2024- All the way. If he runs.

    As others have said there is a good chance Trump would fuck that up.
    Same. I could forgive Trump's "outlandish" or out of place behaviors. But those "Mean comments" and his straight forward honesty got him in the white house in the first place! That's what made 2016 elections so memorable and those democrats are still talking about Trump, and he's out of office!

    Like hello?? Trump is out of office, and you're still talking about him?? Something tells me Trumps is definitely the man for the job! Whenever, democrats talks about Trump, nonstop, even during the elections, It shows that they are actually afraid of him.

    It's true! Those democrats/globalists are afraid of Donald Trump. I mean, why else continue talking about Donald Trump??

    Granted, Donald Trump isn't perfect - no one is. But he is the man for the job.

    If I were to vote for Trump, I'd give him another chance to run America. Trump just needs to focus on America and her needs are.


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