Thread: Can someone explain what happened?

It's been bugging me for a while.

In 2018, there was this woman I wasn't overly interested in pursuing in university. We talked and texted, and were cordial with one another. Anyway. I ended up going over to her dorm place on campus, I bought some beers and we were talking. Our conversations then transitioned into going into her dorm room to 'watch a movie.' I sort of made a move (albeit rather poorly) by holding her hand and she didn't decline it, but it didn't progress any further than hand holding. I was dead tired as it was close to 3am & couldn't keep my eyes open during the movie. She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen and basically flailing in the other room. I came to and sat up, went to use the washroom and when I came out she said she was going to bed soon but offered to let me "sleep beside her" (she didn't have anywhere else for me to sleep) and even offered me pyjama pants. Originally, I thanked her, took the PJ's and put them on, but this was awkward as fuck. The thought of sleeping next to somebody (in their clothes, mind you) but not having sex with them was really weird to me. I was not getting any vibes that she wanted to have sex with me. I checked to see if there were any buses running and luckily the last one was about to show up, so I quickly put my pants back on and gave her back the PJ's and said I was leaving, to which she looked visibly shocked and/or upset, in a way as though it seemed like 'I' was rejecting her (I need to underscore the word shocked; she looked hurt). I thanked her for having me over and I left.

Fast forward a couple of months later I asked her if she wanted to see the new Halloween movie with me, she replied with "sure, but I just want to go as friends" I never bothered replying back and went with someone else.

Did I fuck that up? Did she covertly want to have sex with me? I'm genuinely confused and unsure of just what the fuck happened that night. That was hands down one of my most bizarre encounters with a woman. Why offer someone a space beside you to sleep if you don't intend to have sex with them?

Originally Posted by alphalpha

It's been bugging me for a while.

In 2018, there was this woman I wasn't overly interested in pursuing in university. We talked and texted, and were cordial with one another. Anyway. I ended up going over to her dorm place on campus, I bought some beers and we were talking. Our conversations then transitioned into going into her dorm room to 'watch a movie.' I sort of made a move (albeit rather poorly) by holding her hand and she didn't decline it, but it didn't progress any further than hand holding. I was dead tired as it was close to 3am & couldn't keep my eyes open during the movie. She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen and basically flailing in the other room. I came to and sat up, went to use the washroom and when I came out she said she was going to bed soon but offered to let me "sleep beside her" (she didn't have anywhere else for me to sleep) and even offered me pyjama pants. Originally, I thanked her, took the PJ's and put them on, but this was awkward as fuck. The thought of sleeping next to somebody (in their clothes, mind you) but not having sex with them was really weird to me. I was not getting any vibes that she wanted to have sex with me. I checked to see if there were any buses running and luckily the last one was about to show up, so I quickly put my pants back on and gave her back the PJ's and said I was leaving, to which she looked visibly shocked and/or upset, in a way as though it seemed like 'I' was rejecting her (I need to underscore the word shocked; she looked hurt). I thanked her for having me over and I left.

Fast forward a couple of months later I asked her if she wanted to see the new Halloween movie with me, she replied with "sure, but I just want to go as friends" I never bothered replying back and went with someone else.

Did I fuck that up? Did she covertly want to have sex with me? I'm genuinely confused and unsure of just what the fuck happened that night. That was hands down one of my most bizarre encounters with a woman. Why offer someone a space beside you to sleep if you don't intend to have sex with them?

The only way you were plugging that hole was as an emotional tampon!

You did yourself a favor by leaving! The second opportunity was an ultimatum to become an orbiter with no opportunity for intimacy! On both accounts you did the right thing to preserve your masculinity!

20/20 hindsight, you did all the right things! If she had any intentions of sex she would have grabbed you cock! But no, she was after something else, an orbiter!

You used the gravitational pull to SLINGSHOT! You handled it with perfection!

Only thing you fucked up was her stupid little game. How many times have you heard women use the excuse that sex just somehow happened? That sex was never intended. Very common line used when they get caught cheating. It just happened. What bull shit.

You were supposed to lay with her. Then of course accidently touch her here and there. Then of course spoon here with your boner poking at her ass. She would accidently reach back and touch that boner. Next thing you know the never intended, accidental sex would happen. Like it has many times before for her. You screwed that whole deal up for her.

What's worse is you showed her that she was not completely irresistible to you. That you just could not keep from touching and needing her. No uncontrollable desire from you. Mentally they can't handle not being irresistible to a man. That's why the sad and hurt look from her. In her head you did reject her. Like she was not alluring enough. How dare you!

This situation had danger, danger, warning written all over it. A drunk/high chick is held even less accountable for her actions. It's all on you buddy. A girl who can't be straight up about having sex is a bomb waiting to go off. In your life. This is the kind of woman who decides she was raped the next day. Never mind that she backed into your boner. Or sucked you off. It's the behavior of a sexually immature woman.

MGTOWER was 1000% right. Leaving was the best thing you could have done for yourself. You didn't just dodge a bullet. More like a mortar shell.

Originally Posted by alphalpha

She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen

I don´t know what is more weird, what she did to you or clean the kitchen close to 3:00 a.m being clearly high.

Originally Posted by alphalpha

Did I fuck that up?

Yes.

Originally Posted by alphalpha

Did she covertly want to have sex with me?

Yes.

The essential fuckup was mismanaging logistics. It was 3am. You were tired. Not gonna happen. I mean - sure, you could have had some of what she was having, but that stuff tends to interfere with boner.

Meh.

Originally Posted by alphalpha

It's been bugging me for a while.

In 2018, there was this woman I wasn't overly interested in pursuing in university. We talked and texted, and were cordial with one another. Anyway. I ended up going over to her dorm place on campus, I bought some beers and we were talking. Our conversations then transitioned into going into her dorm room to 'watch a movie.' I sort of made a move (albeit rather poorly) by holding her hand and she didn't decline it, but it didn't progress any further than hand holding. I was dead tired as it was close to 3am & couldn't keep my eyes open during the movie. She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen and basically flailing in the other room. I came to and sat up, went to use the washroom and when I came out she said she was going to bed soon but offered to let me "sleep beside her" (she didn't have anywhere else for me to sleep) and even offered me pyjama pants. Originally, I thanked her, took the PJ's and put them on, but this was awkward as fuck. The thought of sleeping next to somebody (in their clothes, mind you) but not having sex with them was really weird to me. I was not getting any vibes that she wanted to have sex with me. I checked to see if there were any buses running and luckily the last one was about to show up, so I quickly put my pants back on and gave her back the PJ's and said I was leaving, to which she looked visibly shocked and/or upset, in a way as though it seemed like 'I' was rejecting her (I need to underscore the word shocked; she looked hurt). I thanked her for having me over and I left.

Fast forward a couple of months later I asked her if she wanted to see the new Halloween movie with me, she replied with "sure, but I just want to go as friends" I never bothered replying back and went with someone else.

Did I fuck that up? Did she covertly want to have sex with me? I'm genuinely confused and unsure of just what the fuck happened that night. That was hands down one of my most bizarre encounters with a woman. Why offer someone a space beside you to sleep if you don't intend to have sex with them?

I guess I disagree with most of the rest here. Your "mistake" was falling asleep during the movie.

You were supposed to watch ten or fifteen minutes and then make your move on her.

Honestly tho, it doesn't seem like you're missing very much. There's a type of woman who attracts orbiters through sex. She'll fuck somebody once and then keep him on the leash for attention and validation (AND NO SEX!) for as long as possible. I'm not saying that's who she is. But I wouldn't be surprised either, judging by her behavior.

One of the guys I rode with had a father far richer than the rest of us. For all that he wasn't a bad guy. Naturally one of his perks was having the best girlfriend. The kid sister of a guy I would eventually ride many miles with, she was a very nice combination of looks and personality. They eventually broke up, and though she knew I thought a lot of her she wasn't interested.

A few years go by and then she shows up at my place one evening. We hang awhile and I'm as smitten as ever, but since I'd been kicking a dead horse for so long I didn't dream she might be interested. But she was. Within two months she was pregnant and married to another guy. She has stuck by her man and they are doing fine. She ended up being somewhat of a fertility goddess, they have more kids than I'd like to support. So maybe it was all for the best. I'd a been your classic Beta, but a lot happier than most. But for better or for worse, I was dumb and it never happened.

That's why it's nice to have guys like O.G. Owen and Tower around. I was dumber than a rock.

Earth to OP? earth too OP.... Got a copy? Whelp no need to remind you that it's not you'er problem! Quit the small head thinking this will never end good for YOU!

Originally Posted by frog

One of the guys I rode with had a father far richer than the rest of us. For all that he wasn't a bad guy. Naturally one of his perks was having the best girlfriend. The kid sister of a guy I would eventually ride many miles with, she was a very nice combination of looks and personality. They eventually broke up, and though she knew I thought a lot of her she wasn't interested.

A few years go by and then she shows up at my place one evening. We hang awhile and I'm as smitten as ever, but since I'd been kicking a dead horse for so long I didn't dream she might be interested. But she was. Within two months she was pregnant and married to another guy. She has stuck by her man and they are doing fine. She ended up being somewhat of a fertility goddess, they have more kids than I'd like to support. So maybe it was all for the best. I'd a been your classic Beta, but a lot happier than most. But for better or for worse, I was dumb and it never happened.

That's why it's nice to have guys like O.G. Owen and Tower around. I was dumber than a rock.

It's not dumbness or stupidity, it's the logical half of your brain subliminally dumbing down the little head to stay out of trouble. It just feels dumb but it's actually genius at work!

Originally Posted by alphalpha

It's been bugging me for a while.

Did I fuck that up? Did she covertly want to have sex with me? I'm genuinely confused and unsure of just what the fuck happened that night. That was hands down one of my most bizarre encounters with a woman. Why offer someone a space beside you to sleep if you don't intend to have sex with them?

So she was playing the game. She handing everything to you to make the move but not letting you know vocally to keep going. It's a game, she didn't want to appear aggressive, she wanted to keep a good image toward you. But looking into what you wrote, she was almost playing a "Pick Me" This can and sometimes does backfire when she regrets her actions the next day. Her being under the influence drugs/alcohol can, some places, make it rape. No, you didn't fuck it up. You didn't have sex with her, but you were not accused of something you didn't do. You were true to yourself, that is more important.

If it wasn't a clear "YES" than it was a "NO" even if no wasn't said. Next day that "Yes" can be a "NO"....

Originally Posted by frog

One of the guys I rode with had a father far richer than the rest of us. For all that he wasn't a bad guy. Naturally one of his perks was having the best girlfriend. The kid sister of a guy I would eventually ride many miles with, she was a very nice combination of looks and personality. They eventually broke up, and though she knew I thought a lot of her she wasn't interested.

A few years go by and then she shows up at my place one evening. We hang awhile and I'm as smitten as ever, but since I'd been kicking a dead horse for so long I didn't dream she might be interested. But she was. Within two months she was pregnant and married to another guy. She has stuck by her man and they are doing fine. She ended up being somewhat of a fertility goddess, they have more kids than I'd like to support. So maybe it was all for the best. I'd a been your classic Beta, but a lot happier than most. But for better or for worse, I was dumb and it never happened.

That's why it's nice to have guys like O.G. Owen and Tower around. I was dumber than a rock.

Sometimes the best thing women can offer is rejection, get out of our lives.

Universities are feminist minefields. The normal "rule of law" and laws of evidence do not apply.
They can run their own Kangaroo Kourts, and 'feelings' and projection are the highest form of evidence.

A man in a university is "behind enemy lines."

If you must go, treat it like Long Range Recon Patrol.
You go in, you get the information you need, you get out.
Be camouflaged, be concealed, be stealthy.
Do not make contact with the enemy. Do not expect an extraction if you do.
The LRRPs motto: "They didn't hear us. They didn't see us. We were never there."

To do anything else, is to be a unit that goes out in small groups and comes back - if at all - as even smaller groups.

Do as much work on-line, and always wait and think about how your interactions with others can be misinterpreted before speaking or hitting the "send" button.

You are surrounded potential enemies. You are in The Matrix, "Neo." Every fellow student is a potential "Agent Smith," an SJW who will think that the proper punishment for disagreeing with their world view or hurting their feelings is the complete destruction of your education, your future, even your physical presence in this world.

Take summer semester classes, so you can graduate in 3 years instead of 4.

Take classes offered at night: more students who work real jobs during the day, fewer SJWs and snowflakes.

Do not date on-campus or anyone connected to the campus.

seems like you dodged a bullet there.

i would stay far away from all wymeng there, cant imagine going in for 3 years having student-debt and than getting kicked out the 4th year cuz Sally is claiming ''#MeeTwoe''

Originally Posted by alphalpha

It's been bugging me for a while.

In 2018, there was this woman I wasn't overly interested in pursuing in university. We talked and texted, and were cordial with one another. Anyway. I ended up going over to her dorm place on campus, I bought some beers and we were talking. Our conversations then transitioned into going into her dorm room to 'watch a movie.' I sort of made a move (albeit rather poorly) by holding her hand and she didn't decline it, but it didn't progress any further than hand holding. I was dead tired as it was close to 3am & couldn't keep my eyes open during the movie. She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen and basically flailing in the other room. I came to and sat up, went to use the washroom and when I came out she said she was going to bed soon but offered to let me "sleep beside her" (she didn't have anywhere else for me to sleep) and even offered me pyjama pants. Originally, I thanked her, took the PJ's and put them on, but this was awkward as fuck. The thought of sleeping next to somebody (in their clothes, mind you) but not having sex with them was really weird to me. I was not getting any vibes that she wanted to have sex with me. I checked to see if there were any buses running and luckily the last one was about to show up, so I quickly put my pants back on and gave her back the PJ's and said I was leaving, to which she looked visibly shocked and/or upset, in a way as though it seemed like 'I' was rejecting her (I need to underscore the word shocked; she looked hurt). I thanked her for having me over and I left.

Fast forward a couple of months later I asked her if she wanted to see the new Halloween movie with me, she replied with "sure, but I just want to go as friends" I never bothered replying back and went with someone else.

Did I fuck that up? Did she covertly want to have sex with me? I'm genuinely confused and unsure of just what the fuck happened that night. That was hands down one of my most bizarre encounters with a woman. Why offer someone a space beside you to sleep if you don't intend to have sex with them?

Trust me, you dodged a bullet. Run away from women like these as fast as your legs can carry you!
Hint: Don't hook up with unbalanced/crazy. It will never end well.

Originally Posted by The Captain

Trust me, you dodged a bullet. Run away from women like these as fast as your legs can carry you!
Hint: Don't hook up with unbalanced/crazy. It will never end well.

How's the old saying go? Crazy in the bed, crazy in the head. Or something like that.

She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen

She was high, cleaning her bathroom and kitchen!!

She wants to keep you around just in case. She was probably already seeing someone else or lining someone else up. I knew a woman who liked to stay friends with exes. I just knew she would still use them when required.