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    Are YOU angry?

    I say chaps,

    Iíve been feeling this for quite long, but havenít been able to figure out the Ďwhyí behind it. Not sure how it goes where you guys dwell, but where I live, everybody is fucking angry. Interestingly, theyíre all mostly mad about something they simply canít control.

    Now, Iím not talking about observing the anger Ďonlineí per se. In fact, Iím not on ANY social media. This website is as social as I get in the online world. No FB, no Insta, no WhatsApp, no nothing for me!

    Iím talking about people I see in real life. No matter where I go, people are mad about something. It will be prudent to mention here that I donít go out to a WAR zone on a daily basis. I only go out for household shopping (chores), meeting with buddies, or fucking a whore. Thatís it. I shagged a new bird in town 2 days ago and that fucking whore was angry too. So I only jackhammered her froggy style after sucking on her nebulous, perky tits.

    Anyways, do you observe this too where you live? Fucking insane out there. So much for a Ďcongruentí society!

    Talk about peace of mind! SMH!

    Cheers!

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    BTW, for those who donít know,

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    Yes, anger is very common... It has calmed down from what it was.

    I think a lot of it was what was done politically with Covid, here the vaxxed was pinned against the un-vaxxed. So much so, the un-vaxxed were going to kill the vaxxed because they didn't want the shot. The un-masked were all carriers and if you catch Covid from them you will die. We all know this was BS but there were people that believed this, and they were not afraid to tell me.

    Since then, most people have had covid and know it is BS. They know they have been conned into the narrative but don't want to admit it. Lots of hurt feeling or egos.. When reminded not many want to blame the government for being misled. They don't want to see this is just Act #1 and there are many more acts in this WEF play... So more anger/hate to come.

    The whole Covid scam was a personal power grab, it worked, we will see this again. This scam played on emotions. Women were the first to fall for the fear factor that was played out politically, this act from Daddy government stimulated her emotions, most ran hard with the story. This fear then effected the weaker men. The misinformation all amplified what was going down.

    People are slowly waking up to being played. If mainstream media ever publish what & how this all went down there should be riots but I think it will be slowly released without much publication.

    Inflation: People are not happy paying these fuel prices or the after effects of the fuel prices, higher prices in everything. Wages have not gone up because of inflation, this also adds to frustration causing anger. Interest rates will have an impact also.

    Housing: In 2018 a work mate sold his primary residence that was nearly paid off and moved into his investment property that didn't suite him because it went from a positive geared investment to a negative geared (paying more in interest payments than rent was) and a loss of more that $60K in value. He could not sell it for what was owing. He was not alone. It has totally reversed now. Hindsight is 20/20 but for him, he was drowning in debt and took the only way out. That cost him heaps and that investment property cost him money over all, a few years later likely would have recovered losses and added +$20k value.

    Here now it is nearly impossible to rent. There are thousands of jobs, no one to fill them and nowhere to stay if did get here. Rent has gone stupid, house prices are rising to match.

    Very frustrating for a young couple trying to start out. (that's not me).

    There will be other factors, these are the ones I see with the people I have contact with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNuts View Post
    Yes, anger is very common... It has calmed down from what it was.

    I think a lot of it was what was done politically with Covid, here the vaxxed was pinned against the un-vaxxed. So much so, the un-vaxxed were going to kill the vaxxed because they didn't want the shot. The un-masked were all carriers and if you catch Covid from them you will die. We all know this was BS but there were people that believed this, and they were not afraid to tell me.

    Since then, most people have had covid and know it is BS. They know they have been conned into the narrative but don't want to admit it. Lots of hurt feeling or egos.. When reminded not many want to blame the government for being misled. They don't want to see this is just Act #1 and there are many more acts in this WEF play... So more anger/hate to come.

    The whole Covid scam was a personal power grab, it worked, we will see this again. This scam played on emotions. Women were the first to fall for the fear factor that was played out politically, this act from Daddy government stimulated her emotions, most ran hard with the story. This fear then effected the weaker men. The misinformation all amplified what was going down.

    People are slowly waking up to being played. If mainstream media ever publish what & how this all went down there should be riots but I think it will be slowly released without much publication.

    Inflation: People are not happy paying these fuel prices or the after effects of the fuel prices, higher prices in everything. Wages have not gone up because of inflation, this also adds to frustration causing anger. Interest rates will have an impact also.

    Housing: In 2018 a work mate sold his primary residence that was nearly paid off and moved into his investment property that didn't suite him because it went from a positive geared investment to a negative geared (paying more in interest payments than rent was) and a loss of more that $60K in value. He could not sell it for what was owing. He was not alone. It has totally reversed now. Hindsight is 20/20 but for him, he was drowning in debt and took the only way out. That cost him heaps and that investment property cost him money over all, a few years later likely would have recovered losses and added +$20k value.

    Here now it is nearly impossible to rent. There are thousands of jobs, no one to fill them and nowhere to stay if did get here. Rent has gone stupid, house prices are rising to match.

    Very frustrating for a young couple trying to start out. (that's not me).

    There will be other factors, these are the ones I see with the people I have contact with.
    All good points. My passport is itching again and Iíll be abroad soon. Will be interesting to see the pattern in that country too.

    This is not the way to live life IMO tho. Where the fuck we are headed, I wonder sometimes!

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    Re: Are YOU angry?

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNuts View Post
    Yes, anger is very common... It has calmed down from what it was.

    I think a lot of it was what was done politically with Covid, here the vaxxed was pinned against the un-vaxxed. So much so, the un-vaxxed were going to kill the vaxxed because they didn't want the shot. The un-masked were all carriers and if you catch Covid from them you will die. We all know this was BS but there were people that believed this, and they were not afraid to tell me.

    Since then, most people have had covid and know it is BS. They know they have been conned into the narrative but don't want to admit it. Lots of hurt feeling or egos.. When reminded not many want to blame the government for being misled. They don't want to see this is just Act #1 and there are many more acts in this WEF play... So more anger/hate to come.

    The whole Covid scam was a personal power grab, it worked, we will see this again. This scam played on emotions. Women were the first to fall for the fear factor that was played out politically, this act from Daddy government stimulated her emotions, most ran hard with the story. This fear then effected the weaker men. The misinformation all amplified what was going down.

    People are slowly waking up to being played. If mainstream media ever publish what & how this all went down there should be riots but I think it will be slowly released without much publication.

    Inflation: People are not happy paying these fuel prices or the after effects of the fuel prices, higher prices in everything. Wages have not gone up because of inflation, this also adds to frustration causing anger. Interest rates will have an impact also.

    Housing: In 2018 a work mate sold his primary residence that was nearly paid off and moved into his investment property that didn't suite him because it went from a positive geared investment to a negative geared (paying more in interest payments than rent was) and a loss of more that $60K in value. He could not sell it for what was owing. He was not alone. It has totally reversed now. Hindsight is 20/20 but for him, he was drowning in debt and took the only way out. That cost him heaps and that investment property cost him money over all, a few years later likely would have recovered losses and added +$20k value.

    Here now it is nearly impossible to rent. There are thousands of jobs, no one to fill them and nowhere to stay if did get here. Rent has gone stupid, house prices are rising to match.

    Very frustrating for a young couple trying to start out. (that's not me).

    There will be other factors, these are the ones I see with the people I have contact with.
    Absolutely what I have been seeing, and indeed experiencing, especially with reference to your opening comment of "It has calmed down from what it was".

    Anger, whilst totally understandable given the events of recent years and the ongoing housing problems is an utterly useless and destructive emotion unless it motivates you make changes to your situation.

    It has a way of spreading into all aspects of your life leaving you miserable and causing others who might otherwise distract you from your problems to avoid you, then you get angry about them too.

    Anger, combined with feelings of frustration of being unable to control shit is the road to hell on earth.

    Acceptance of the situation will help quell your anger but it is not an end in itself, that is just defeatism, but it is a starting point.

    Learn to use this anger and those feelings of frustration to motivate yourself to bigger and better things.

    Blaming others for such problems is initially a natural thing. Getting past this phase and taking accountability for your own life is the path to freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Acceptance of the situation will help quell your anger but it is not an end in itself, that is just defeatism, but it is a starting point.

    Learn to use this anger and those feelings of frustration to motivate yourself to bigger and better things.

    Blaming others for such problems is initially a natural thing. Getting past this phase and taking accountability for your own life is the path to freedom.
    Amen, Jackoff. Basically, Stoicism.

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    I'm an expert on pissed off steaming fkn angry! Trust me, it's poison, it's an addiction, and in this world it's a junkie's paradise! Early on in life I saw that some dudes had an even temper, their emotions weren't getting the best of them, they didn't act on their emotions either because they had "self control" something I lacked from day 1. Each stable man I encountered along life's way made me thirst for their cool composure, more and more I realized my anger was from immaturity, acting like a baby, not wanting to take control of my emotions and the hidden from realization "control of my life".

    Instead of anger I turn straight to resolve skipping the anger like a stone over water. Anger is no longer in control, I'm calm, cool, and collected and keep my shit together! Martial arts was also another great tool for my attitude adjustment, any emotions of anger displayed during practice gave license for a two on one scenario, reinforcing the necessity to maintain control over your emotions or suffer instant blitzkrieg.

    Anger is man's #1 weakness and if left unattended drives us to lunacy and the unintended consequences of not being in control.

    I've even taken this art to the next level by having a calming effect on those that are angry.

    I don't do anger and anger doesn't do me! Anything to the contrary is the same as playing kick the cobra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Absolutely what I have been seeing, and indeed experiencing, especially with reference to your opening comment of "It has calmed down from what it was".

    Anger, whilst totally understandable given the events of recent years and the ongoing housing problems is an utterly useless and destructive emotion unless it motivates you make changes to your situation.

    It has a way of spreading into all aspects of your life leaving you miserable and causing others who might otherwise distract you from your problems to avoid you, then you get angry about them too.

    Anger, combined with feelings of frustration of being unable to control shit is the road to hell on earth.

    Acceptance of the situation will help quell your anger but it is not an end in itself, that is just defeatism, but it is a starting point.

    Learn to use this anger and those feelings of frustration to motivate yourself to bigger and better things.

    Blaming others for such problems is initially a natural thing. Getting past this phase and taking accountability for your own life is the path to freedom.
    "unless it motivates you make changes to your situation."

    THIS^^ I learned this when I was a financially-poor teenager, now I look at myself in the mirror and see that smile that got me where I stand now!

    Cheers Jackoff!

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    Re: Are YOU angry?

    Quote Originally Posted by end_of_days View Post
    Amen, Jackoff. Basically, Stoicism.
    Hmm.

    I seem to get multiple references that my thinking is Stoic in nature. Maybe this is so, TBH I don’t know.

    I know little of Stoicism. I’ve read the definition and a little, VERY little, on the philosophy.

    I have an inherent distaste towards all philosophies and see them primarily as an attempt to control behaviour rather than offering the freedom they espouse. In a phrase, I detest most “isms”.

    My comments are based purely on what I have learned from living life and not the words of others.

    That being said, if my experiences have led me to being mostly stoic in nature I have no real problems with this observation, but I would like to point out that I do not condone stoicism any more than any other “ism”.
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    Re: Are YOU angry?

    Used to be if you were willing to work hard, you'd get something for your efforts that would make your life better. Kids saw their parents and grandparents doing ok, now it's their turn and the cupboard is bare. It's hard to blame them for being angry.

    Do you suppose the rich wanting to turn us all into economic slaves has anything to do with it?
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    Concerning the subject of anger in society: I figure that much of the anger is due to something that I call "politicking and posturing."

    "Politicking and posturing" is basically a tool to help powerless people feel that they have a measure of power. But it's fake power: In the end it just leads to divisiveness and futility.

    How does "politicking and posturing" work?

    1) Most adults learn not to express strong opinions in their immediate environment: Their workplace, their family, etc. But it leads to a feeling of powerlessness: Afraid to speak out, they feel suffocated and afraid to "let their freak flag fly."

    2) However, on the internet they can get past all that, espouse a favorite cause, and engage in screaming and shouting and outrage ("politicking and posturing") on behalf of their chosen cause. They can find scripts and supporting facts and figures at websites that agree with them, and charge into the fray of political debate feeling like they're adequately armed for the battle and have god on their side.

    3) When they engage in "politicking and posturing," they love the screaming and the outrage. Supportive websites provide them with daily political talking points and promise them that there are millions of other people who think just like them. They live in political "echo chambers" where their ideas are validated and echoed back at them. And when they charge into political battle, they feel like they are leading god's army: They are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    4) But in the end it's all a waste of time, of course. The people on the other side of the debate are engaged in similar "politicking and posturing." The people on the other side have their own echo chambers, their own supportive websites feeding them talking points and validating their views. The people on the other side charge into battle feeling like they are leading god's army: They too are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    5) And eventually, after banging their heads against the brick wall of political debate on the internet and engaging in "politicking and posturing" for a few years, people slowly begin to get a glimmer of realization that it's a waste of time. All that adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage means nothing. It feels good, but it accomplishes nothing since everyone on both sides of the debate are doing the same thing as you. In the end, "politicking and posturing" is really just the temper tantrums of two-year-olds: It feels good, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Does that mean that politics are a waste of time in general? No. Politics can eventually turn into policy and law. So it's important to be aware of what's happening in the realm of politics. But if you want to be effective, you should restrict your actions to things that actually matter, like voting or attending school board meetings or whatever. Don't engage in "politicking and posturing," such as debating on the internet. That's just a waste of time. It's a way for powerless people to feel powerful, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Look at the abortion debate in the US. It has been going on for decades, and sometimes one side pulls ahead, sometimes the other. But little has actually changed over time. Meantime, people waste their lives arguing about it and "politicking and posturing" about it.

    Of course, if you REALLY LOVE "politicking and posturing," then go for it. Some people really just love the adrenaline and the rush of debating on the internet with strangers. If that's the case for you, then do it. But realize that at the end of it you probably won't have actually accomplished anything by it in real life.

    What about socializing and message-boarding on places like GYOW--is that "politicking and posturing"? I would argue that it's not. There's nothing wrong (and possibly much to gain) by meeting with like-minded people for socializing and mutual support. Nothing wrong with being among your own kind. But if the mods at GYOW were to push members to go out and debate feminists and try to topple the "gynocentric world order," I would say that GYOW was turning into "politicking and posturing."

    The one main example that I see at GYOW of "politicking and posturing" is a couple members spamming the message board with daily propaganda posts (sometimes a couple per day) in support of the anti-vaxx cause. And it's particularly unscientific posts; most of it is trashy conspiracy-theory stuff. I'm a little surprised that it's allowed. Would we be permitted to spam the board with daily posts about the flat-earth cause? Scientology? I've seen the mods shut down overly aggressive posts by atheists. So the fact that they approve daily spamming of anti-vaxx propaganda isn't a great look for an otherwise nonpolitical MGTOW-oriented message board.

    But whatever. In the end the anti-vaxx propaganda is just more "politicking and posturing." The world revolves around "politicking and posturing," so I pay it no mind. Everyone engages in "politicking and posturing" these days. As the saying goes: "Opinions are like assholes--everyone has one and they all stink." I've gotten pretty good at tuning it out.

    So that's my advice: Don't engage in "politicking and posturing" unless you're simply addicted to the adrenaline and the outrage. And when you see other engaging in it, just tune it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWLife View Post
    Concerning the subject of anger in society: I figure that much of the anger is due to something that I call "politicking and posturing."

    "Politicking and posturing" is basically a tool to help powerless people feel that they have a measure of power. But it's fake power: In the end it just leads to divisiveness and futility.

    How does "politicking and posturing" work?

    1) Most adults learn not to express strong opinions in their immediate environment: Their workplace, their family, etc. But it leads to a feeling of powerlessness: Afraid to speak out, they feel suffocated and afraid to "let their freak flag fly."

    2) However, on the internet they can get past all that, espouse a favorite cause, and engage in screaming and shouting and outrage ("politicking and posturing") on behalf of their chosen cause. They can find scripts and supporting facts and figures at websites that agree with them, and charge into the fray of political debate feeling like they're adequately armed for the battle and have god on their side.

    3) When they engage in "politicking and posturing," they love the screaming and the outrage. Supportive websites provide them with daily political talking points and promise them that there are millions of other people who think just like them. They live in political "echo chambers" where their ideas are validated and echoed back at them. And when they charge into political battle, they feel like they are leading god's army: They are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    4) But in the end it's all a waste of time, of course. The people on the other side of the debate are engaged in similar "politicking and posturing." The people on the other side have their own echo chambers, their own supportive websites feeding them talking points and validating their views. The people on the other side charge into battle feeling like they are leading god's army: They too are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    5) And eventually, after banging their heads against the brick wall of political debate on the internet and engaging in "politicking and posturing" for a few years, people slowly begin to get a glimmer of realization that it's a waste of time. All that adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage means nothing. It feels good, but it accomplishes nothing since everyone on both sides of the debate are doing the same thing as you. In the end, "politicking and posturing" is really just the temper tantrums of two-year-olds: It feels good, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Does that mean that politics are a waste of time in general? No. Politics can eventually turn into policy and law. So it's important to be aware of what's happening in the realm of politics. But if you want to be effective, you should restrict your actions to things that actually matter, like voting or attending school board meetings or whatever. Don't engage in "politicking and posturing," such as debating on the internet. That's just a waste of time. It's a way for powerless people to feel powerful, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Look at the abortion debate in the US. It has been going on for decades, and sometimes one side pulls ahead, sometimes the other. But little has actually changed over time. Meantime, people waste their lives arguing about it and "politicking and posturing" about it.

    Of course, if you REALLY LOVE "politicking and posturing," then go for it. Some people really just love the adrenaline and the rush of debating on the internet with strangers. If that's the case for you, then do it. But realize that at the end of it you probably won't have actually accomplished anything by it in real life.

    What about socializing and message-boarding on places like GYOW--is that "politicking and posturing"? I would argue that it's not. There's nothing wrong (and possibly much to gain) by meeting with like-minded people for socializing and mutual support. Nothing wrong with being among your own kind. But if the mods at GYOW were to push members to go out and debate feminists and try to topple the "gynocentric world order," I would say that GYOW was turning into "politicking and posturing."

    The one main example that I see at GYOW of "politicking and posturing" is a couple members spamming the message board with daily propaganda posts (sometimes a couple per day) in support of the anti-vaxx cause. And it's particularly unscientific posts; most of it is trashy conspiracy-theory stuff. I'm a little surprised that it's allowed. Would we be permitted to spam the board with daily posts about the flat-earth cause? Scientology? I've seen the mods shut down overly aggressive posts by atheists. So the fact that they approve daily spamming of anti-vaxx propaganda isn't a great look for an otherwise nonpolitical MGTOW-oriented message board.

    But whatever. In the end the anti-vaxx propaganda is just more "politicking and posturing." The world revolves around "politicking and posturing," so I pay it no mind. Everyone engages in "politicking and posturing" these days. As the saying goes: "Opinions are like assholes--everyone has one and they all stink." I've gotten pretty good at tuning it out.

    So that's my advice: Don't engage in "politicking and posturing" unless you're simply addicted to the adrenaline and the outrage. And when you see other engaging in it, just tune it out.
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    Re: Are YOU angry?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWLife View Post
    Concerning the subject of anger in society: I figure that much of the anger is due to something that I call "politicking and posturing."

    "Politicking and posturing" is basically a tool to help powerless people feel that they have a measure of power. But it's fake power: In the end it just leads to divisiveness and futility.

    How does "politicking and posturing" work?

    1) Most adults learn not to express strong opinions in their immediate environment: Their workplace, their family, etc. But it leads to a feeling of powerlessness: Afraid to speak out, they feel suffocated and afraid to "let their freak flag fly."

    2) However, on the internet they can get past all that, espouse a favorite cause, and engage in screaming and shouting and outrage ("politicking and posturing") on behalf of their chosen cause. They can find scripts and supporting facts and figures at websites that agree with them, and charge into the fray of political debate feeling like they're adequately armed for the battle and have god on their side.

    3) When they engage in "politicking and posturing," they love the screaming and the outrage. Supportive websites provide them with daily political talking points and promise them that there are millions of other people who think just like them. They live in political "echo chambers" where their ideas are validated and echoed back at them. And when they charge into political battle, they feel like they are leading god's army: They are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    4) But in the end it's all a waste of time, of course. The people on the other side of the debate are engaged in similar "politicking and posturing." The people on the other side have their own echo chambers, their own supportive websites feeding them talking points and validating their views. The people on the other side charge into battle feeling like they are leading god's army: They too are full of adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage.

    5) And eventually, after banging their heads against the brick wall of political debate on the internet and engaging in "politicking and posturing" for a few years, people slowly begin to get a glimmer of realization that it's a waste of time. All that adrenaline and fervor and righteous outrage means nothing. It feels good, but it accomplishes nothing since everyone on both sides of the debate are doing the same thing as you. In the end, "politicking and posturing" is really just the temper tantrums of two-year-olds: It feels good, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Does that mean that politics are a waste of time in general? No. Politics can eventually turn into policy and law. So it's important to be aware of what's happening in the realm of politics. But if you want to be effective, you should restrict your actions to things that actually matter, like voting or attending school board meetings or whatever. Don't engage in "politicking and posturing," such as debating on the internet. That's just a waste of time. It's a way for powerless people to feel powerful, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

    Look at the abortion debate in the US. It has been going on for decades, and sometimes one side pulls ahead, sometimes the other. But little has actually changed over time. Meantime, people waste their lives arguing about it and "politicking and posturing" about it.

    Of course, if you REALLY LOVE "politicking and posturing," then go for it. Some people really just love the adrenaline and the rush of debating on the internet with strangers. If that's the case for you, then do it. But realize that at the end of it you probably won't have actually accomplished anything by it in real life.

    What about socializing and message-boarding on places like GYOW--is that "politicking and posturing"? I would argue that it's not. There's nothing wrong (and possibly much to gain) by meeting with like-minded people for socializing and mutual support. Nothing wrong with being among your own kind. But if the mods at GYOW were to push members to go out and debate feminists and try to topple the "gynocentric world order," I would say that GYOW was turning into "politicking and posturing."

    The one main example that I see at GYOW of "politicking and posturing" is a couple members spamming the message board with daily propaganda posts (sometimes a couple per day) in support of the anti-vaxx cause. And it's particularly unscientific posts; most of it is trashy conspiracy-theory stuff. I'm a little surprised that it's allowed. Would we be permitted to spam the board with daily posts about the flat-earth cause? Scientology? I've seen the mods shut down overly aggressive posts by atheists. So the fact that they approve daily spamming of anti-vaxx propaganda isn't a great look for an otherwise nonpolitical MGTOW-oriented message board.

    But whatever. In the end the anti-vaxx propaganda is just more "politicking and posturing." The world revolves around "politicking and posturing," so I pay it no mind. Everyone engages in "politicking and posturing" these days. As the saying goes: "Opinions are like assholes--everyone has one and they all stink." I've gotten pretty good at tuning it out.

    So that's my advice: Don't engage in "politicking and posturing" unless you're simply addicted to the adrenaline and the outrage. And when you see other engaging in it, just tune it out.
    Politics are a cancer on society.
    It is a destructive idea that inserts itself into every group dynamic between humans that always changes the group dynamic negatively. Like any other parasite, it exists only to keep itself alive even at the expense of the host.

    That's why you feel anger when addressing politics. It's the parasite you can't attack because its shielded by the host. That politician gets blamed and they get changed but it still feels like shit because the parasite is still there - the rules never change.

    That is also why policies that are damaging to the political system are never approved even if it's good for society at large.

    I'm on the fence with the GYOW argument, not commenting on that. Just the first part about the benefits of politics. Human beings can do better than politics.
    If you believe everything you hear is a lie, you have a 100% lie detection rate.
    The opposite holds true but I would rather be surprised by the truth than a lie.

    Society is a Simulacrum.

  14. #14

    Re: Are YOU angry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Hmm.

    I seem to get multiple references that my thinking is Stoic in nature. Maybe this is so, TBH I don’t know.

    I know little of Stoicism. I’ve read the definition and a little, VERY little, on the philosophy.

    I have an inherent distaste towards all philosophies and see them primarily as an attempt to control behaviour rather than offering the freedom they espouse. In a phrase, I detest most “isms”.

    My comments are based purely on what I have learned from living life and not the words of others.

    That being said, if my experiences have led me to being mostly stoic in nature I have no real problems with this observation, but I would like to point out that I do not condone stoicism any more than any other “ism”.
    The fact that people before us have come to the same realizations we did, is absolutely natural.

    The fact that many of these realizations were formally "discovered" by a school - as in, literally, a place were adults gathered in Ancient Greece, discussing about the problems of life - is also something you'd expect to happen.

    Therefore, the fact that these people were called the Stoics - and therefore, their discoveries are collectively called "Stoicism" - should not discourage you from reading about their discoveries in depth; otherwise you'll be forced to rediscover each and every one, on your own!

    You are right, that there are many -isms - including feminism! - that are atrocious, useless, intellectual wastelands.

    But the fact that the ideas of the Stoics were discovered 2500 years ago, and still survive to this day, tells you something: this is "not one more of the usual -isms".

    If you want to read one, and only one, book about Stoicism, read "the Ancient art of Stoic joy". It's dirt-cheap, and the only book I've read in my many decades, that actually made me say - "give me a time machine, so I could give this to my 20y old self". Suffice to say that dozens of painfully discovered life principles are there in easy to understand language. I have gifted dozens of copies to young people - and all of them come back saying the equivalent of "why did no one tell me about this before".

    Once you read that excellent summary of Stoicism, you can then start looking into the originals: Marcus Aurelius's Meditations, the Enchiridion of Epictetus, and many more.

    The fact that you are a MGTOW already means you are actually thinking seriously about the problems of life.

    My sincere advice: don't deprive yourself of the wisdom of the Ancients.


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