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    Re: Infighting in the Left

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    The accusations of pollution are just a cover, their aim is to destroy capitalism.
    True because Communist China is more polluting than the USA.

    Even the Soviet Union caused more damage with the fire at one of their oil reserves that still keeps burning today and the fact that they drained the Aral Sea for water instead of just recycling water using sewage treatment facilities or even sewage to electricity power plants w/ ash fertilizer collectors, desalination, filtration, and hydroelectric reservoirs which are all available in the USA.

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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by N567 View Post
    True because Communist China is more polluting than the USA.

    Even the Soviet Union caused more damage with the fire at one of their oil reserves that still keeps burning today and the fact that they drained the Aral Sea for water instead of just recycling water using sewage treatment facilities or even sewage to electricity power plants w/ ash fertilizer collectors, desalination, filtration, and hydroelectric reservoirs which are all available in the USA.
    They drained a sea, and we made one! (Salten sea) now suffering the same fate as the Aral with toxic waters and toxic dust, much for the same reasons. Makes me appreciate my artesian well drilled into my own aquafer that hasn't run dry in millions of years! Once all the world's aquafers are exhausted, this land will become economical to to farm again with a reliable source of potable water. They'll come crawling back from the Midwest with parched dry mouths and bags of seed!

    India and many other countries are in the same predicament as us with drying aquifers, there will be pandemonium when all the water is gone! I've been gardening for about 10 years and ready for the mayhem!
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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but Iíve been busy and havenít had much of a chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by N567 View Post
    Why is it SJW to protect the environment?
    Obviously it isnít, not on its own anyhow. I was being flippant and joking with regards to yourself and I apologise for not making that clear.

    But to answer your question if I may, without it reflecting on you personally.

    There is often a fine line between true environmentalists and eco-warriors, many of whom have little to no clue what theyíre talking about. As far as Iím concerned this puts eco-warriors squarely in the realm of the SJW.

    And to explain my flippancy:

    Quote Originally Posted by N567
    I also avoid vices because it is bad for the environment.
    When I think of vices I think of drugs and alcohol and sex, and maybe a few others. I donít relate these to environmental issues. The juxtaposition of these two views threw me.


    Also, as far as Iím aware there is no ďSJW movementĒ, although it can admittedly seem like that. It is merely a collective term that seemed to spring up in the 1990ís sometime. Your thread title and subsequent posts would seem to bear this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    When I think of vices I think of drugs and alcohol and sex, and maybe a few others. I don’t relate these to environmental issues. The juxtaposition of these two views threw me.
    It takes energy, materials, and labor to make the substances that people abuse, even the items used in gambling, romance, sex, and sexual perversions require energy, materials, and labor to manufacture.

    So abstaining from these vices saves natural resources.

    Many environmentalists even encourage frugality, practicality, and efficiency while discouraging commercialism because it saves natural resources and reduces our impact on the environment.

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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by N567 View Post
    It takes energy, materials, and labor to make the substances that people abuse, even the items used in gambling, romance, sex, and sexual perversions require energy, materials, and labor to manufacture.

    So abstaining from these vices saves natural resources.

    Many environmentalists even encourage frugality, practicality, and efficiency while discouraging commercialism because it saves natural resources and reduces our impact on the environment.
    Fair point, well made.

    But what if we didn’t have such vices to fall back on? Would we be better off? Maybe, but I’m unsure.

    The taking of drugs like marijuana and alcohol are forms of escapism. In a world full of manipulation and coercion some of us need this escape from time to time. If this escapism is denied us then maybe we would flip and go out on killing sprees. A bit melodramatic maybe but you get the gist?

    As for the effects on the environment, I don’t see much of a problem – they are, or are made from natural ingredients no different from the food we eat, and I assume you do not advocate stopping eating. Crops are grown, often processed (and by processed I include cooking), and are consumed: this is nature.

    O.K., maybe we consume (eat, drink & smoke) too much and that is bad for us, but the impact on the environment is minimal, relatively speaking, at least that’s how I see it, nothing like the impact of international travel or rocket launches. As for the manufacture of the materials used therein, maybe you have a point.

    Or, to put it another way, you have all these countries and mega-corps using untold amounts of energy for their bombs and their planes and their rockets and I'm going to save the environment by using a power-saving light bulb? I don't think so!

    As for sex???

    I just don’t get where you’re coming from. This sounds like madness to me. O.K. I abstain, but this has nothing to do with concerns over the environment.

    What you seem to be suggesting is we shouldn't have any fun at all. FUCK THAT!

    I’m sorry, but I’m back to thinking you’re some sort of SJW.

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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    As for sex???

    I just don’t get where you’re coming from. This sounds like madness to me. O.K. I abstain, but this has nothing to do with concerns over the environment.
    Agreed there, he has some absolute stance on any form of sex, from fapping to actual sex, as bad for both health and environment. And everything said so far are merely assertions.
    Unless stated otherwise, I am NOT presenting my preferences.

    Preferences can be views, thoughts, opinions, philosophies, morals, values, ideology, imaginations, fantasies, fictions, god, soul, spirit...

    I am using scientific method, its an algorithmic computation, designed to give highest efficiency and chance to win in a conflict, at a very high cost of mental discomfort of not adhering to preferences and spending time and energy on the computation.

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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post

    I’m sorry, but I’m back to thinking you’re some sort of SJW.
    I bet he's a stick-in-the-mud at one of my camper fires! Especially a Shasta 6 person, they're mostly synthetic plastics, foam rubber, and real thin paneling that makes them vanish in less than 15 minutes!

    Forget about one of my camp tire fires, he'll be stinking the place up pissing on it in a vain attempt to save the environment!
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    I’m sorry, but I’m back to thinking you’re some sort of SJW.
    No, because I oppose political correctness and gun control.

    As for escapism, the best way to cope with stress is to lower your cortisol levels and elevate your testosterone so that you do not generate emotional responses.
    Last edited by N567; April 7, 2021 at 1:12 PM.

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    Re: Infighting in the Left

    Quote Originally Posted by N567 View Post
    No, because I oppose political correctness and gun control.

    As for escapism, the best way to cope with stress is to lower your cortisol levels and elevate your testosterone so that you do not feel anything.

    [Redacted huge tract and 100+ links]
    As I suspected: A SJW. I pulled back a little to give him enough rope and sure enough he hanged himself.

    Opposing P.C. and gun control means nothing. As you said in your thread title there is in-fighting on the left. Just because you oppose some of it doesn't mean you're not part of it.

    I'm sorry to say this about a fellow senior member, but you can take your manipulative bullshit and shove it where the sun don't shine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    As I suspected: A SJW. I pulled back a little to give him enough rope and sure enough he hanged himself.

    Opposing P.C. and gun control means nothing. As you said in your thread title there is in-fighting on the left. Just because you oppose some of it doesn't mean you're not part of it.

    I'm sorry to say this about a fellow senior member, but you can take your manipulative bullshit and shove it where the sun don't shine!
    Part of the reason why I became an MGTOW is because I refuse to associate with leftist degenerates such as the SJWs who lead a lifestyle centered around vice.

    My suspicion has always been that the activism from leftist organizations is only an excuse to accumulate donation money and use it to fund their vices rather than using the money for their supposed political goals.

    If you do not want advice on how to boost your testosterone levels you can go ahead and ignore it, but it is supported by scientific studies if you read the citations on the articles provided in the links.

    But let me give you an abridged version not lifted from other sites that I am also a member of, if you search the sources of the posts you will see that it is under the same username because I made the original posts, you would have to avoid anti-androgens such as xenoestrogens from soy, gluten from grains, rice bran from whole grain rice, coumestan from beans and legumes, polyunsaturated fat from soy oil, corn oil, sunflower oil, canola oil and some nuts, trans fat from partially hydrogenated oil used in the cooking of junk food, fast food, canned food, processed food, packed food, and cured meats, caffeine, alcohol, mint, BPA from plastics, parabens and phtalates from hygiene, cosmetic products, sunscreens and air fresheners, chlorine from running water and chlorinated swimming pools, and fluoride from toothpaste.

    You would also have to get adequate amounts of vitamins and minerals, take forskolin to boost your testosterone, phosphatidylserine to block cortisol, boron citrate to block estrogen, and mucuna pruriens extract to block prolactin.

    Also avoid muscle strain, bad posture, overtraining, ejaculation, and wearing tight clothing, and cut percent body fat down to 8-12% to keep your testosterone levels elevated and your cortisol suppressed.

    I can post links to the websites with the original sources of information and citations from scientific studies upon request.
    Last edited by N567; April 7, 2021 at 9:36 AM.

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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Seems that we have enough posts that are not talking about Infighting in the Left such that we can make a new thread for it. And so here we are.
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Seems that we have enough posts that are not talking about Infighting in the Left such that we can make a new thread for it. And so here we are.
    (scratching head) Who's "infighting" the world wide left? leftie leaners here?

    I'm as about far right as they come, snowflakes are meant to be swept off, otherwise you can't see where you're going.

    I don't see any infighting, it's just oil and water assuming its natural position. It's why the petcock goes at the bottom. It's only right that someone bleed off the water and save the oil. Otherwise it's salad dressing that keeps on shaking.

    I like jibs and jabs to the point of a no holds barred full blown hockey fight! with skate stomping included! Best fight you'll ever witness! Next best thing is Roller Ball...

    P.S. It was Jackoff that took the slapshot, I only passed him the puck!
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    (scratching head) Who's "infighting" the world wide left? leftie leaners here?
    Maybe I should have linked to the original thread "Infighting in the Left" to have made it clearer, perhaps?

    https://www.goingyourownway.com/mgto...02/#post157502

    That thread started out with a different topic (see Post #1 of that thread) but it seemed to morph away from that, into a discussion of the environment, a personal health regimen, abstinence from vices, and testosterone, too.
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Maybe I should have linked to the original thread "Infighting in the Left" to have made it clearer, perhaps?

    https://www.goingyourownway.com/mgto...02/#post157502

    That thread started out with a different topic (see Post #1 of that thread) but it seemed to morph away from that, into a discussion of the environment, a personal health regimen, abstinence from vices, and testosterone, too.
    Thank-you Unboxxed, I've been to the best shrink on earth and have diagnosed myself with panfocalmononeuropathy (one track mind), so it's not uncommon to find me 100 miles past the rail switch on the wrong track.
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Thank-you Unboxxed, I've been to the best shrink on earth and have diagnosed myself with panfocalmononeuropathy (one track mind), so it's not uncommon to find me 100 miles past the rail switch on the wrong track.
    panfocalmononeuropathy? Is that a thing? I don't believe you have that, not with a fertile mind like yours. Fertile, not fertilizer. LOL
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    panfocalmononeuropathy? Is that a thing? I don't believe you have that, not with a fertile mind like yours. Fertile, not fertilizer. LOL
    Statistically speaking, we Americans have some of the lowest rates of substance abuse and STDs on the planet while the highest rates are found in 3rd world African countries but I would need your permission to post links to sources along with an article I made about the subject.

    I am also wondering if I can re-post my article about boosting testosterone levels with your permission.

    A diet filled with saturated fat from pork rinds and bacon, along with potassium from french fries and mashed potatoes is the reason why Americans have the highest average testosterone levels in the world at 679ng/dl, which is probably why we are the most innovative country in the world.
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    panfocalmononeuropathy? Is that a thing? I don't believe you have that, not with a fertile mind like yours. Fertile, not fertilizer. LOL
    It means I have mental glaucoma, I keep my eye on the ball, just like a dog, can't see or hear anything else! It's also where I get my investigative skills, again, just like a dog, I'll ferret the truth by digging holes all over the yard, and that really pisses them off!
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    It means I have mental glaucoma, I keep my eye on the ball, just like a dog, can't see or hear anything else! It's also where I get my investigative skills, again, just like a dog, I'll ferret the truth by digging holes all over the yard, and that really pisses them off!
    The truth about glaucoma is that it is more common in Africa, South America, and Asia where the rates of smoking are higher.

    Over here in the US where the rate of smoking is only 17.25%, we are less likely to have glaucoma, cataracts, cancer, atherosclerosis, rotten teeth and other smoking related issues.

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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by N567 View Post
    I am also wondering if I can re-post my article about boosting testosterone levels with your permission.
    How do I ask this nicely... Is it really necessary to any point you are making? Or are you just a fellow who likes to overshare? I have a sister who used to email me with article after article of things that were important to her yet she thought it was equally important to me and her siblings to have this information. It drove us crazy. It took us forever to get her to back it off. It's a boundaries issue, sir.

    How about if you just say your opinions in your posts, in your own words, and let people choose to PM you for that additional information? I simply want to stop you from doing what you've been doing, what I might call oversharing.

    Thank you for your understanding.
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    Re: NEW THREAD: Personal Health and the Environment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    How do I ask this nicely... Is it really necessary to any point you are making? Or are you just a fellow who likes to overshare? I have a sister who used to email me with article after article of things that were important to her yet she thought it was equally important to me and her siblings to have this information. It drove us crazy. It took us forever to get her to back it off. It's a boundaries issue, sir.

    How about if you just say your opinions in your posts, in your own words, and let people choose to PM you for that additional information? I simply want to stop you from doing what you've been doing, what I might call oversharing.

    Thank you for your understanding.


    Vote on the overshare. I feel tmi.

    However, if N567 wants to overshare, then I should be allowed to overshare how I turned a walmart bathroom into a splatterhouse level. Pics Included!


    i want to listen to the N567, the community, i do. perhaps he has something to say. However, We are stable helium atoms here we acknowledge your free electrons don't overshare.

    The shasta 6 reference killdeed me mgtower. I was choking on IBR

    One of the things that i believe society made a PUTA up about was cheap ass campers/RV's.


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    For the BOOMERS! Low price APT on wheels! Buy with 4 payments of 2995! Comes with your choice of emissions laden 4xx ci big block!

    Haul yourself, your additional ass fat, your relatives and their additional ass fat.

    Oh, so you're a broke ass 23 y old with a wife?

    Here's a shasta 6.



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    As for the left infighting, it seems nothing has changed in 100k years. Homo erectus had the same problems we did, we just have scant record of their large civilizations.


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