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    Terminology, what does it convey?

    For years I’ve been bothered with terms such as “homophobic”, and more recently “transphobic”.

    What do they mean?

    Phobia – An irrational fear!

    I have no fear of gays. I have no fear of trans. In the same way I have no real fear of spiders – arachnophobia.

    Nevertheless, if I come home and find a big hairy one (any of them) lying waiting in my bed I might just freak out a little!
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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    For years I’ve been bothered with terms such as “homophobic”, and more recently “transphobic”.

    What do they mean?

    Phobia – An irrational fear!

    I have no fear of gays. I have no fear of trans. In the same way I have no real fear of spiders – arachnophobia.

    Nevertheless, if I come home and find a big hairy one (any of them) lying waiting in my bed I might just freak out a little!
    Don't listen to them, they're all heterophobic gendervites!
    It's almost over...

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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    What do they mean?
    From the way it is used, I think its some sort of battlecry that they have spotted a witch they need help with catching and burning.
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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    a big hairy one (any of them)
    LOL! That one caught me good!


    I agree with you, it makes no educated sense. Yet, it's successfully used on so many people which is a second thing that makes no sense. If someone says you are that, why let yourself be operated by a wrong word expressed by a person ignorant of it?

    If that should be said to me, I can imagine myself looking at the person in the eye and maybe saying, earnestly, "You don't know what you are talking about." If they persisted, I'd drive a conversation to take control of it, making it an opportunity to tell that person a thing or two. I don't play victim well. They usually regret playing.
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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I don't play victim well. They usually regret playing.
    True! Oh so true!
    Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far – West African proverb popularised by Teddy Roosevelt

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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    It all comes down to semantics and pedantics.

    Put a name on someone and add “phobe” or “phobic” to the end of it.

    It implies irrationality:

    Basically, Phobia comes from the Latin and Greek word “phobos” meaning fear, horror. All the words formed using this root should reflect this same fear.

    -phobia

    word-forming element meaning "excessive or irrational fear, horror, or aversion," from Latin -phobia and directly from Greek -phobia "panic fear of," from phobos "fear" (see phobia). In widespread popular use with native words from c. 1800. In psychology, "an abnormal or irrational fear." Related: -phobic.
    https://www.etymonline.com/word/-phobia

    But not any more.

    They – the never ending “they” – employ this term as a manipulation. They ignore the “fear” part of the description and concentrate on the “irrational”.

    This change of definition is even making it in to the dictionaries:

    someone who hates or has a fear of something, especially in a way that is extreme or not reasonable:
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic.../english/phobe

    Where does the hate come in?

    If you disagree with them then you're being “irrational” – no debate / no discourse, just a put-down!

    You’re phobic!

    It has nothing to do with reason. It has nothing to do with understanding. It is merely a put-down.
    Last edited by Jackoff; May 1, 2021 at 2:03 AM.
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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    From the way it is used, I think its some sort of battlecry that they have spotted a witch they need help with catching and burning.
    As Vox Day suggests: step1 of the process is "Point and Shreik".

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    Re: Terminology, what does it convey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    As Vox Day suggests: step1 of the process is "Point and Shreik".
    Didnt know about him, so I looked it up. Sounds like an interesting guy ! I think I am gonna follow his blogposts !!
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