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    Covid Spread

    Iíve come in contact.

    Well sort of.

    A workmate has been in contact with confirmed cases and I (obviously) have been in contact with him. It will be a few days before I hear if he tests positive or negative.

    So what do I think now that itís a bit closer to home after decrying the reaction to covid? Have my views changed now that I might be infected?

    Maybe a little, but not much.

    My reaction:

    Because there is little in the way of treatment for this thing I will take extra precautions so as not to potentially spread it. Until I hear the results of my workmate I am cocooning myself which realistically wonít be that much of a change, but there will be some. Iím accepting no visitors and explaining to them why. I have plenty of food stocked but if I should need to go out I will wear a mask, I will wash my hands, I will social distance and do all I can to keep contact at an absolute minimum. Remember, at this stage I havenít come in contact with a confirmed case, just someone that has.

    This is the height of my change of view, and really it isnít much of one. I admit that I am taking it a bit more seriously but I always believed that if anyone potentially has an infectious disease they should do all they can to prevent its spread. Nothing to do with Covid really, just a general principle.

    I am still against the compulsory wearing of masks for everyone. I am still against the shutdowns. I still believe the reaction is overblown and is being used at the very least as an intelligence gathering exercise not only for medical purposes but for more insidious reasons such as population control Ė how far can an epidemic be used to manipulate a population! THEY should have enough data after this to keep them occupied for decades.

    In reference to a recent thread on Karma Ė Iím not a believer in such things but so many things are beyond my control I have to accept that Ďwhat will be, will beí. Is this an acceptance of Karma?

    At this time I really donít believe that I have contracted Covid but if I have, surprisingly, it doesnít bother me that much. Whilst I am in an aging group (mid-50ís) and am a heavy smoker I have no underlying relevant medical conditions. Thatís not to say Iím not concerned about the possibilities, Iíd have to be nuts not to be, but I have always felt that because it is so widespread, and until a vaccine is developed, that it was inevitable.

    It is this perceived inevitability that is the basis of most of my views on the international reaction to Covid-19 Ė if itís inevitable then all the precautions in the world wonít matter, at best all they do is stretch the problem over a longer period of time. Maybe until a cure and/or vaccine are found, but thatís still a maybe!

    And just as a side note, the ď19Ē in Covid-19 is a reference to the year it was discovered/created and not the 19th version of Covid. I have come across this misconception a few times and it kinda annoys me.
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    Re: Covid Spread

    Well my workmate’s COVID results came back negative a few days ago thankfully. But here’re a few things I noticed over the last few days.

    When wearing a face mask:

    1. Breathing wasn’t difficult and neither was making myself understood while talking – it didn’t sound as muffled as I thought it would. However, with regards breathing there was something wrong, it’s like I wasn’t getting enough oxygen and my breathing easily became laboured. I assume this is something to do with breathing in your own expelled air but whatever the reason it was unpleasant and made me think how unhealthy wearing a mask is for one’s respiratory system.

    2. There was a build-up of moisture under the mask. Since the current belief is that this virus is transmitted through expelled water particulates surely anything that causes a concentration of these particulates is a bad thing.

    3. I occasionally had to remove the mask from my face in order to catch my breath (whilst outside walking alone, not in the shops). This brings my hands into contact with the expelled moisture, which is a no-no.

    4. I had to occasionally rub my eyes because some of the expelled air would be forced up towards my eyes aggravating them even though the mask I wore had a metal strip around the nose area to reduce this effect. The eyes are considered a soft entry point for the virus and touching them is also a no-no.

    5. I had to blow my nose more often, again meaning my hands were coming into contact with expellant.

    So, I would go from shop to shop and each time would use the supplied sanitiser. This bothers me. I appreciate that this may limit transmission but constantly rubbing alcohol (and whatever else) into your skin cannot be good for you. Also, I prefer to take my alcohol orally.

    And again there’re the stats.

    Leave COVID aside for a second and look at the stats for flu. According to the WHO approx. 1 billion people contract the flu every year. That’s a LOT of people, yet in my over 50 years on this planet, and therefore over 50 flu seasons I have never had the flu and that’s without taking ANY precautions. I’ve never had a flu jab and don’t take “supplements” like the recommended vitamin C and D. (Yes I’ve had one or two heavy colds that many confuse with flu, but never flu.)

    Think about this for a moment. There are currently an estimated 7.8 billion people on the planet. This means, statistically speaking I should expect to contract the flu every 7-8 years or so and yet it doesn’t happen. Whilst there are obviously environmental factors at work surely by this stage I should have had the flu at least once (statistically speaking, of course).

    Statistics are all very well when it comes to explaining what HAS happened, but they are often a very poor indicator of what WILL happen.
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    Re: Covid Spread

    I am glad he was negative, for his sake and yours. I'm retired so I can't know what it's like in the workplace had I still been working. Wearing my N95 mask makes for hard breathing, and moist too, to want to wear it for longer than a trip to the store. Those lighter masks that go around the ears that everybody wears give me pause as to their effectiveness, but at least one can play along with the powers-that-be who also play along. The guy on the radio this morning said we wear masks for the emotional comfort of others and he said, "So, I have to wear other people's emotions on my face!" Ha. He also said if you can blow out a lit match with your mask on, it's no good. I just tried it with my lighter mask. I blew hard several times and could get the match flame to flicker but could not blow it out. I held the match at a distance from my face where I could see it, unscientific as that is.

    In the USA, key members of both major political parties, and the media, and even recently our Dr. Fauci have all been photographed with their masks off in close proximity to non-family members when they thought no cameras were looking. People see this.

    And then these lighter masks that you can buy are made in China! I have had this long-held belief that China exports its toxic waste in the form of the products that we buy from them, so who knows what the hell I'm sucking into my lungs if I wear one of their masks. Probably the same shit they had put in their drywall. I don't trust them!

    And now we hear of poisonous hand sanitizer from Mexico made with wood alcohol (methanol) but mislabeled as grain alcohol. Methanol can be toxic when absorbed through the skin and can cause blindness, according to our Food and Drug Administration. Because the products are mislabeled, you won't know which ones they are just by looking at the label. The FDA has now identified 77 brands that may be toxic:

    FDA Updates on Hand Sanitizers with Methanol

    All 77 on the above list were made in Mexico. Since May, at least seven people have died and dozens have been hospitalized in Arizona and New Mexico from ingesting these toxic sanitizers. I'm talking here about people who drink the stuff for its alcohol content. But, I mention it because AZ and NM are border states to Mexico so maybe Ireland has nothing to worry about on this?
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    Thanks for the thought, and thanks for the link to the FDA report, it made for interesting reading. As for how it affects us here in Ireland I’m unsure. I know some of our distilleries are now making hand sanitising products but how many of them are being used here and how many are exported I’ve absolutely no idea. I’ll have to look into that.

    What I do know is much of our PPE is imported and much of it comes from China. Like yourself this bothers me.

    With regards hand sanitisers I don’t use them at home, a block of soap is apparently more effective and I’m good with that, but outside my home is a different matter. If I was to buy a hand sanitiser I could read labels and at least try to make an informed decision, but when using products supplied by shops or the workplace I have absolutely no idea what they are and where they are coming from.

    As for today’s workplace restrictions they are, well, restrictive. I don’t blame my employer because they have to be wary of lawsuits and I also like to believe (however naively) that they wouldn’t want to feel responsible for spreading COVID.

    Here in Ireland, and I assume this isn’t just us, not only is social distancing rigorously enforced in the workplace (for the most part) but the wearing of at least some form of PPE is mandatory except where protective screens are in place, and even then sometimes PPE is required. When in a room with others I have masks that I am expected to wear, or sometimes I can eschew these in favour of one of those Perspex face screen thingies which at least makes breathing easier. Sometimes I’m expected to wear those shitty latex gloves that make your hands sweat and I’m unconvinced that over time this sweat cannot penetrate the gloves which, to my mind, makes them more of a liability than a defence.

    The guy on the radio this morning said we wear masks for the emotional comfort of others and he said, "So, I have to wear other people's emotions on my face!"
    An excellent observation. Whilst some are obviously genuinely afraid of catching this thing I believe most of us comply out of respect for others, this was (and is) my primary motivation. And I’m sorry for bringing this around to manipulation tactics but I honestly believe that TPTB are well aware of this and are using it to full effect.
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    Re: Covid Spread

    When Trump signed some executive orders recently, they gathered around him for the photo-op. I noticed all the women were maskless while all the men wore masks. Here's a snapshot from the video, I tried to get a shot to show everybody's faces:



    The lady on the far left had a shaded face which may suggest a sheer mask (huh?) but her nose is exposed. In this picture, her mouth is visible:




    It's interesting to me that this distinction I make is divided along sex lines. Are women considering their hair and make-up when deciding to eschew masks? Is this possibility worth a look in terms of compliance and Covid spread?
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    Re: Covid Spread

    Interesting; I would have thought that 90% of the wahmenz would have fallen in line with the masks like good little sheeple.
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    Very interesting observation. Not only do I agree about the vanity thing about make-up and hair but their chances of being recognised would be greatly diminished if they wore masks.

    Most are also wearing lab coats indicating association with the medical field, but I guess their knowledge and understanding takes a poor second place to their vanity.
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    It's interesting to me that this distinction I make is divided along sex lines. Are women considering their hair and make-up when deciding to eschew masks? Is this possibility worth a look in terms of compliance and Covid spread?
    It's almost as if this whole "pandemic" is completely overblown and used as nothing more than a political tool to control a populace. When the people have had enough, the "pandemic" will end.
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