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    Is the British P.M. guilty of Treason?

    It seems that the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, has been found guilty in the U.K. Supreme Court of deliberately misleading Queen Elizabeth II.

    Whilst the declaration made does not state this definitively, the implication is unmistakeable:

    It is impossible for us to conclude, on the evidence which has been put before us, that there was any reason – let alone a good reason – to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament for five weeks… We cannot speculate, in the absence of further evidence, upon what such reasons might have been. It follows that the decision was unlawful.”
    Lady Hale, President, Supreme Court


    Source: BBC, here (near the bottom of the page):
    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-49807552

    Of course this all about Brexit, but what are the implications of such a ruling?

    The monarchy in the U.K. is a constitutional monarchy that makes it illegal for it to meddle in the affairs of state (or so I believe, please correct me if I’m wrong), but to deliberately mislead the monarch? Surely there is still something in the statute books making this a crime, if not out and out treason?

    The U.K. constitution is not a written one, but one based on precedent. No doubt it will take some time to assess the legal ramifications, but could we be looking at a situation where a sitting Prime Minister’s actions result in him being imprisoned?
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    The court involved itself on behalf of the remainers. The implications are going to keep the court tied up in deciding every political point. Not going to change brexit, the next election it looks like Boris and Nigel will run the table. All of this is a lot of crap for nothing.
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    Re: Is the British P.M. guilty of Treason?

    It is not the least bit surprising to see the courts on the side of the remainers. They are urban elites.

    On the other hand … everyone knows that Boris did this to gag the debate.

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    Re: Is the British P.M. guilty of Treason?

    I couldn't help but think Brexit, then the Loony Tunes opening act started playing in my head, and that's the truth!


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    Re: Is the British P.M. guilty of Treason?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    It is not the least bit surprising to see the courts on the side of the remainers. They are urban elites.

    On the other hand … everyone knows that Boris did this to gag the debate.
    Agreed. Where was the concept of democracy in Johnson's efforts? Just shut F up and do as I say!
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    Re: Is the British P.M. guilty of Treason?

    Surely there is still something in the statute books making this a crime, if not out and out treason?
    Prime Minister Blair had the forsight to remove the last remaining treasonable offences from the statute book shortly before lying to Parliament about WMD and starting a war on behalf of (???) but thats not why he did it, it was a lucky accident.

    He did it because some treason laws remained in statute despite times-a-changing but there was one that remained that became very pertinant when somebody very high-up got caught doing something that was actually treason but nobody anticipated anyone ever actually doing and so the law remained in statute. But somebody very high-up did that treasonable thing according to the law and thus things had to change PDQ.

    He couldn't remove just the one treasonable offence in question as that would be very telling so he removed all but one or two.

    The law was that it was treason for the spouse of the heir to the throne to shag around.

    Don't worry about Brexit. The brightest and best of OxBridge are in charge.

    LooneyTunes indeed.
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