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    Re: Understanding Diversity

    Quote Originally Posted by ShogunRonin View Post
    I totally agree with this - I would add I dislike it when feminists say 'nature is unfair' when we come to the discussion of who has the better life experience. We have the LAW which protects those who are weak and vulnerable in context, person or situation. A 7 foot Chad with bulging muscles cannot jump on a 5'4 simp without repercussions if he is caught. Just like a man cannot punch a female in the face without a police officer jumping on him. We also cannot run around saying the N word to black people or pay women less than men. Yet, when it comes to attractiveness we somehow fall back to the 'nature is nature' argument? I also say that political correctness should extend to negativity towards those with an unattractive appearence. Lets take Brazil as an example - in Brazil right now if your physical appearence and teeth are bad, you will never get a job.....
    Damn right ! The "political correctness" pushes the concept of law too far, violating what we call "natural law". Yes we want to protect a 5'4 simp from 7' chat randomly punching him for no reason, but we DONT want to protect the little guy in a fair free market where 7' tall gets more profit. The chad is free to use all his assets to gain advantage in the market as long as he doesnt violate natural laws of others.

    And fair market can be extreme, its the reality of the nature. The one at the bottom can starve and die out. Its nobody's fault, and should not be punished for that. Its the way nature works. If we try to "fix" it, the nature will come for us, and that is what is happening with us in the present era.

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    I do agree with the fundementals of diversity as having a diverse team really does lead to better performance. Having a host of people from different backgrounds, cultures and experiences, leads to further progression and thought.
    I'll say it depends way more on the individual than his/her culture. Its a trade between the existing group (a team, a business, etc) and an individual. The group, if not involved in some malicious task, is free to decline the trade on any grounds, just like we can refuse to buy stuff from a particular shop at our whim, or refuse to engage in romantic relationship. The law shouldnt get involved in that, and definitely not on some hypothetical morals.
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    Re: Understanding Diversity

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I'll say it depends way more on the individual than his/her culture. Its a trade between the existing group (a team, a business, etc) and an individual. The group, if not involved in some malicious task, is free to decline the trade on any grounds, just like we can refuse to buy stuff from a particular shop at our whim, or refuse to engage in romantic relationship. The law shouldnt get involved in that, and definitely not on some hypothetical morals.
    This is true, and is why these packed boards confound me. It really doesn’t matter a shit who’s coming from what background. You can have as many ‘minorities’ as you like being represented, but if the guys really making the decisions – those that control the board meeting as to what can and cannot be discussed, have a closed view then they will direct the meeting in such terms, and the decisions arrived at will be duly skewed.

    ‘Yes, this concern was raised but we, as a group, decided that it was marginal and needed no further discussion at this level.’ (my own made up response to a reporter’s imagined question – can I get a job in public relations? I promise to be nice!) – Corp speak for ‘shut the fuck up!’

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    Re: Understanding Diversity

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    ‘Yes, this concern was raised but we, as a group, decided that it was marginal and needed no further discussion at this level.’ (my own made up response to a reporter’s imagined question – can I get a job in public relations? I promise to be nice!) – Corp speak for ‘shut the fuck up!’
    Haha ! That reminds me why the guys with corpo experience AND mindset AND average/below average skills (~90% of corporate workers here) ... dont like to work with me. I am one big mdrfkn ahole (from their pov) !
    Greedy algorithms always get stuck in a local extrema...

    If you cannot determine global extrema... or if the graph (or space) is infinite, genetic algorithms give better results.

    The function space or hypothesis space is not only infinite, but in most cases, have infinite dimensions.

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    Re: Understanding Diversity

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    I understand where you’re coming from, but you also need to understand that many people need a bit of ‘dutch courage’ (drink/drugs) before speaking forthrightly. Try to see past this. Also some are using their smartphones and grammar/spelling can become difficult to interpret. They’re typing ‘on the go’ so to speak.

    I rarely post here without a drink or two (or more) on me and because of this my views may on occasion seem contradictory. But I’m a bit OCD and try to review my posts BEFORE submitting them. Many don’t bother. That doesn’t mean their opinions are less valid but sometimes it takes a bit of reflection to see exactly what they’re getting at.

    Opinions are a dime a dozen, so to speak, but if one dismisses them because of ‘rules’ then one may miss out on the underlying point.

    Flexibility in thought can be a useful tool although I admit it can also lead you astray. Use it wisely.
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    Re: Understanding Diversity

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    Re: Understanding Diversity

    Great thread everyone, sorry to necropost.

    In business diversity is a tradeoff. More diversity means a larger talent pool when building a workforce, but it also means less creativity, since people act cautious and bland in a diverse environment to avoid offense and misunderstandings. There is a reason why Hollywood makes so many reboots and sequels lately with technical greatness and spiritual emptiness.

    For civilizations it is the same thing. A big regime can bully smaller regimes, so diversity is an advantage because it allows scale. But if it gets too diverse a Babel effect creeps in and it can't act cohesively. The USA, with the best military force in history, lost to the equivalent of rednecks with guns and pickup trucks because the Taliban had unity -- patriarchy, religion, purpose, etc.
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    Re: Understanding Diversity

    Diversity in the cultural sense is about creating division first and foremost. When I was a kid in school we all saw ourselves as Australian irrespective of what culture we came from or the colour of our skin. Over time that changed, they started talking "Diversity" and so all of a sudden you start having parallel societies whether it be religious, race, gender or any type of culture.

    Now what we see is those SJW cultural groups warring against each other. Women don't like the idea of Transgender Male to Female's for example competing against CIS women in sports. Or these same Trans women using what would formally have only been CIS female bathrooms etc.

    Non white people are becoming the new KKK as well. I read an article recently about a couple of white guys who were harassed because they were in the multicultural room of their college. The black woman harrasing them said that white is not a culture and that they were making them uncomfortable. Tell me that isn't racist?

    In short Diversity is about causing more issues than fixing anything and will ultimately lead to less diversity.

    And of course Diversity of opinion is certainly not welcome.

    Also as stated above, Diversity can be a weakness. Groups like the Taliban succeed because everyone is working for the same cause with the same beliefs and mindset. The same reason Europeans were able to dominate the globe at one point.


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