Thread: What should women do?

Trying to describe him would not do him justice, when I give it a try I tell him, not strangers on the web. I mentioned sex, because that is important in a relationsship to me. I mentioned the best company, indicating I love being with him - and that is because of him. I mentioned money because most of what I've read here is about women taking men's money and I want to be honest; the money isn't great. And yes I think about it, but it is not enough to leave.

And I thought I was getting rusty! Man I really sniffed this one out. You're subconsciously planning your monkey branch, love. Lol. Might not be for a few years but mark my words..

Originally Posted by happybachelor

And I thought I was getting rusty! Man I really sniffed this one out. You're subconsciously planning your monkey branch, love. Lol. Might not be for a few years but mark my words..

They are marked, I'll remember it and if I leave in a few years I'll read up on redpill. To me that seems unlikely, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt, the subconscious can be a bitch.

If it happens I'll be sure to try and see if I can come back and let you know.

Bro, I had her psychoanalyzed, bagged, tagged, and trashed when she gave her husband free pass on strange, what kind of self esteem could she have? Yea, when women make the rules all hell breaks loose, the Muslims and other cultures have lock on this, here all the locks are picked, broken, or not even there! They have no respect for natural law and natural order, they'll fuck up a wet dream while in a coma!

To be honest I thought this female poster was far more palatable and I did enjoy the interaction, but I still think she chickened out of the issue which I raised about mothers and how they manipulate their sons.

Thanks Unboxxed for further clarifying my view, that yes, women do get cagey about this issue.

Originally Posted by Opaque

To be honest I thought this female poster was far more palatable and I did enjoy the interaction, but I still think she chickened out of the issue which I raised about mothers and how they manipulate their sons.

Thanks Unboxxed for further clarifying my view, that yes, women do get cagey about this issue.

Shoulda fucked her in the ass when you had the chance! I don't let them escape without blowing a load!

Originally Posted by happybachelor

Is it just me..

Or is this woman collecting tips for her next monkey branch? Mid to late twenties.. wall on horizon..

Or sociology major writing her thesis...?

I guess there's a chance she's a good person concerned about the state of the world. But if I went off experience that's probably bollocks.

Hey lady if you are just a genuine and good person, don't mind my harsh words. I'm just a regular male asshole

Or she might be a troll just collecting ammo (talking points), or she might not be a "she" at all, but some blue pilled dude trying very hard to impersonate a woman. Or he/she/it might be someone from some three letter agency doing their usual work (and if this is the case, then he/she/it should go away and deal with more important things happening !!). Its internet, we can never know... regardless of what he/she/it says.

But, I do think that some of her questions are valid, and their answers can be useful for someone else who is reading it. Say a father raising his children, and some of them are daughters. And to be very honest, those fathers are my target when I am writing in this section of the forums.

Originally Posted by rkspsm

Or she might be a troll just collecting ammo (talking points), or she might not be a "she" at all, but some blue pilled dude trying very hard to impersonate a woman. Or he/she/it might be someone from some three letter agency doing their usual work (and if this is the case, then he/she/it should go away and deal with more important things happening !!). Its internet, we can never know... regardless of what he/she/it says.

But, I do think that some of her questions are valid, and their answers can be useful for someone else who is reading it. Say a father raising his children, and some of them are daughters. And to be very honest, those fathers are my target when I am writing in this section of the forums.

The way she said this tells me she's a woman:

I guess what I am trying to say is that I would enjoy a world where I am expected to take a backseat, even though it goes against everything I’ve been taught.

Women often indicate they cannot invoke change in their personal life until a mass of other women agree to it. I mean, what's holding her back? She can talk to her husband. After him, who else needs to approve?

It's that herd mentality again. She opines a herd solution. She doesn't want to choose what she would enjoy, she wants external forces to expect it of her.

It reminds me of something funny a golfing friend once said to me. Now, I'm not a golfer, so I may recall this imperfectly, but his observation was that apparently a group of guys will keep playing hole after hole and can get separated from each other while a group of women will wait after each hole to have a discussion before any of them goes on to the next hole. Made me chuckle. His experience, that. YMMV.

That's one part of dating I never cared for, when I felt I was dating not only her but all of her girlfriends. I was dating a consensus. Blechhh. I actually put up with that to some extent.

She told us she would enjoy the backseat, but would she tell this to her husband or her friends? Her husband is married to a consensus of feminist training. I wonder if he knows that.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

The way she said this tells me she's a woman:

Women often indicate they cannot invoke change in their personal life until a mass of other women agree to it. I mean, what's holding her back? She can talk to her husband. After him, who else needs to approve?

It's that herd mentality again. She opines a herd solution. She doesn't want to choose what she would enjoy, she wants external forces to expect it of her.

You might be right, in fact I think there is a very high probability that you are right about her being a woman...

But I see men ALL THE TIME around me exhibiting that herd mentality. I have seen that in schools and university, in workplace, in discussions related to building or advancing the career, in talks of relationship and marriage, etc. Everyone will start to become REALLY uncomfortable when I suggest some unconventional solution to a problem with solid reasoning on why it will work. They wont have anything to counter, but all of them tend to be some variation of "uhhh.. no this isnt how its done..." (and yes I am excluding the people who are not interested in arguing with me regardless of who is correct).

Oh and not just around me physically, but also in virtual spaces, INCLUDING HERE. I've been in atleast one major argument here where the other person was unwilling to talk about causes and reasons and instead was hurling insults because a large herd agrees with him.

Maybe you are right, maybe its just me being hyper critical of everyone. But based on what I experience, I see very little difference in tendency to follow the herd between men and women, especially when their viewpoints are challenged. I see large difference only in very few men who I can comfortably claim that they will absolutely reject any herd in favor of rationality. And some of those men are my teachers (virtually) on human behavior and world politics. I mention the names of two of them in my signature actually.

Originally Posted by rkspsm

You might be right, in fact I think there is a very high probability that you are right about her being a woman...

But I see men ALL THE TIME around me exhibiting that herd mentality. I have seen that in schools and university, in workplace, in discussions related to building or advancing the career, in talks of relationship and marriage, etc. Everyone will start to become REALLY uncomfortable when I suggest some unconventional solution to a problem with solid reasoning on why it will work. They wont have anything to counter, but all of them tend to be some variation of "uhhh.. no this isnt how its done..." (and yes I am excluding the people who are not interested in arguing with me regardless of who is correct).

Oh and not just around me physically, but also in virtual spaces, INCLUDING HERE. I've been in atleast one major argument here where the other person was unwilling to talk about causes and reasons and instead was hurling insults because a large herd agrees with him.

Maybe you are right, maybe its just me being hyper critical of everyone. But based on what I experience, I see very little difference in tendency to follow the herd between men and women, especially when their viewpoints are challenged. I see large difference only in very few men who I can comfortably claim that they will absolutely reject any herd in favor of rationality. And some of those men are my teachers (virtually) on human behavior and world politics. I mention the names of two of them in my signature actually.

It's how she said what she said. It's hard for me to see that I meant it to be exclusive to women, but ok. And women do share with each other more than do men. Hey, if you want an example of male herd mentality, bring up the subject of gay. That's when all men make it crystal clear that they are 100% straight and nothing less, then they'll comment. It's the party line, baby. LOL

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

It's how she said what she said. It's hard for me to see that I meant it to be exclusive to women, but ok. And women do share with each other more than do men. Hey, if you want an example of male herd mentality, bring up the subject of gay. That's when all men make it crystal clear that they are 100% straight and nothing less, then they'll comment. It's the party line, baby. LOL

No I am not saying you said its exclusive, its just that based on the quantity, quality and usual subject of my interaction with people, I dont see much difference in the "level of herd mentality", which is why I cannot rely on that metric to determine if the said person is a man or woman. Also not only I have less volume of data, I just have very little data on women in general. I have learnt to completely ignore their existence. Like I mentioned few posts ago, my intention is to help the fathers who happen to stumble upon this thread. Whatever else she said, however she said, is completely irrelevant and inconsequential.

And I think your example is too specific, I can give a more general example : Politics. Which is why you guys had to make a rule on the forum to discourage political topics.

Originally Posted by rkspsm

No I am not saying you said its exclusive, its just that based on the quantity, quality and usual subject of my interaction with people, I dont see much difference in the "level of herd mentality", which is why I cannot rely on that metric to determine if the said person is a man or woman. Also not only I have less volume of data, I just have very little data on women in general. I have learnt to completely ignore their existence. Like I mentioned few posts ago, my intention is to help the fathers who happen to stumble upon this thread. Whatever else she said, however she said, is completely irrelevant and inconsequential.

And I think your example is too specific, I can give a more general example : Politics. Which is why you guys had to make a rule on the forum to discourage political topics.

So, we both agree it's not exclusive to women. Thanks. I expect a man to be more oblique (er, disguised) in mentioning a similar social dependency.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

I expect a man to be more oblique (er, disguised) in mentioning a similar social dependency.

Oh thats actually a good point, I wasnt thinking in that direction. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

If I can split a hair here, I agree men are herd like too, but what Unboxxed was getting at was a woman tends to run many of her decisions by the herd first off, whereas men don't. Nowhere near as much anyway.
It's a heuristic yes but these 'generalisations' add evidence to our conclusion and become more reliable when other heuristics corroborate.
I add this because often this is how my brain works, and when I've said it out loud to a woman I'll often get a variation of "you can't generalise", whereas I don't think any man ever said this to me.
If it walks and quacks like a duck.. its a duck!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If it happens I'll be sure to try and see if I can come back and let you know.

Oh it's going to happen, see that seed you planted, the law of attraction never fails!

See you in a few years, and maybe your husband too!

Originally Posted by mgtower

Shoulda fucked her in the ass when you had the chance! I don't let them escape without blowing a load!

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Is this supposed to add to the discussion?

Alright let us see if I can keep up here. You've already made up your minds but what the hell.

Regarding me teaching my sons: I just found out about redpill, I am still not certain I agree with you about all women being that manipulative, so therefore I have not made any plans of teaching my sons about it, anything else would be a lie. However as you raised the question, it is something to consider, as for now they can't even talk yet so I do not feel I need to make a rushed decision and whatever decision I make it will be made with my husband.

Regarding the freecard: It took me months of contemplation before giving it to him, he did not even want it, it was an idea I had. It wasn't entirely free, it came with respoinsibility of course, he needed to be careful, that is, use protection. He should not let it interfere with our sex, that is, if he started to have sex with others instead of me. Also that we could keep an open conversation about it. He did not want it though, neither did he want to give me one, I was fine with that, I just said it was there if he ever changed his mind. If it can help him get happier and feel better about himself, then it is working. For my part; well at least he can't cheat on me. The thing is I trust him enough to give it to him, to know he'll be careful would he ever use it and to know that he would not just up and leave me for someone else.

Regarding temptation: Yes I can be tempted, so can he. We talk about it with eachother, like we talk about most thing, we even discuss attractive people together and teases eachother. Saying you would never be tempted in a relationsship which lasts for decades I believe is denial, anytime you see a hot woman and think about how great it would be to touch her boobs - that's temptation, it doesn't acquire you actually act on it, or look into it. Saying I'd be tempted is just me trying to be honest with myself. I haven't been there, I haven't lived it, but I expect temptation so I know to turn it down.

Regarding taking a backseat: You assume I haven't talked to my husband about it? I have, but I was talking about taking a backseat in society, not in marriage. In my marriage we make decisions together because my husband hate it if I tell him he should choose, he thinks me intelligent and likes my planning. In the bedroom however - I am taking the backseat entirely.

Regarding a three-letter-organisation: The funniest one where I live is the PRO - I hear they are out to get you!

In the end I didn't write this to ask what I could do, I asked about women in general, but I suppose my attention-seeking ways I suppose I let myself get tempted.

It's that herd mentality again. She opines a herd solution. She doesn't want to choose what she would enjoy, she wants external forces to expect it of her.

Upon introspection, if herd mentality runs in men, then I must be an exception, life's circumstances has taught me that when I run in any pack I'll be trampled to death under the collective hooves whenever I have an original idea that runs bias to the stampede.

If that's the case, I would have to consider myself a wild stallion that runs alone. I seek no validation or cooperation from any member of any herd. I don't seek permission or license to be placed on my survival and the survival tools I use. No principality on this earth shall rule over me being they're all principalities of darkness with one supreme commander that commands obedience to evil.

Clop clop clop is all I hear in my life, void from my life is the rumbling earth from a panic stricken herd. They're shepherded by hungry wolves in sheep's wool!

Women are the first thing to attract the hungry wolves, bad friends are the second. This is where I believe in gender equality 100 women and one man guided and directed by the wolves.

Originally Posted by mgtower

Upon introspection, if herd mentality runs in men, then I must be an exception, life's circumstances has taught me that when I run in any pack I'll be trampled to death under the collective hooves whenever I have an original idea that runs bias to the stampede.

If that's the case, I would have to consider myself a wild stallion that runs alone. I seek no validation or cooperation from any member of any herd. I don't seek permission or license to be placed on my survival and the survival tools I use. No principality on this earth shall rule over me being they're all principalities of darkness with one supreme commander that commands obedience to evil.

Clop clop clop is all I hear in my life, void from my life is the rumbling earth from a panic stricken herd. They're shepherded by hungry wolves in sheep's wool!

Women are the first thing to attract the hungry wolves, bad friends are the second. This is where I believe in gender equality 100 women and one man guided and directed by the wolves.

^^This right here is the attitude to live a vital, healthy and contented life as a man. There is no other way in my opinion. Sometimes we have to blend in, sure. But there's a line between a bit of this and living a lie, suppressing our nature, which makes us men SICK.

We need a healthy dose of Devil may care, Cool Hand Luke. Because we decide how we live and whom benefits from our association.

Being subservient to wimmin and the state is the route to depression, anxiety, mental and physical imprisonment, mutilation and death, whether slow torture or blunt force trauma.

I've never been happier or freer since going MGTOW - the second time, when I finally banished my tendency for oneitis!

Fuck defund the police!

Defund the entire government!

No job, no pension, just go home and eat their leather sofas and face EVICTION!

I was away from the site. Posts #55 and 56 got approved only just now. Bumping this thread so they can be noticed.