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    Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    I used to be a member here, I got bored recently and decided to check out the site for shits and giggles.
    I noticed the "Where has everyone gone thread" and thought for what it's worth, to provide some feedback as obviously I was a member and left the site.

    1/ The initiation essay to get in is just too much. I get it, you want to vet people but if someone really wanted to they could easily bullshit a story anyway. What is worse though, is, at least when I was around you had potential new members being hazed by existing members in that intro area. Not a good look, not welcoming.

    2/ When members leave (request a self ban) they are attacked on their way out. I don't think you guys really understand this, you/the site are being rejected. Being all butthurt and attacking the member who is on their way out is just stupid and childish.

    3/ Unboxxed the moderator and the Admin of the site need to use a lot more introspection rather than just attack people and decrease site activity further. Unless that is the goal, in which case, well done. Keep it up.

    4/ Lack of free speech. How many members got banned or warned for mentioning race or politics? How many left due to that? A big factor in your lack membership and activity but the bigger factor is the Admin and their over the top manner in giving warnings.

    Anyway, figured I would throw it out there. If it gets published at all you can all attack and whatever. But you can't deny that the site has decreased activity wise.

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I used to be a member here, I got bored recently and decided to check out the site for shits and giggles.
    I noticed the "Where has everyone gone thread" and thought for what it's worth, to provide some feedback as obviously I was a member and left the site.

    1/ The initiation essay to get in is just too much. I get it, you want to vet people but if someone really wanted to they could easily bullshit a story anyway. What is worse though, is, at least when I was around you had potential new members being hazed by existing members in that intro area. Not a good look, not welcoming.
    1) We believe the Intro process is effective and not hard to follow. As moderator I am diligent to personally PM each registrant to point him to our How To Intro sticky to help him be successful in providing what we seek, and I will often coach him with feedback once he makes his initial Intro post. I am, however, continually surprised at registrants who cannot write an Intro that addresses what we asked for in the sticky. It seems guys have pre-programmed thoughts when they register of what they want to say to us and so there is in-thread back-and-forth messaging with me until they "hear" what we want from them. And that's gonna happen. Perhaps that may be some of the difficulty that you notice?

    If we do have bullshitters among us, they maintain frame really well when they post! LOL.

    You are right about hazing in Intros having once been a problem but that was a while back. We lost registrants who gave up in the middle of the Intro process. We instituted effective corrective action on that and I've issued periodic reminders of this for the sake of our newer members. It is important that we keep the path clear for registrants.


    2/ When members leave (request a self ban) they are attacked on their way out. I don't think you guys really understand this, you/the site are being rejected. Being all butthurt and attacking the member who is on their way out is just stupid and childish.
    2) Somewhere between being butthurt and childish, and being completely silent, is a sweet spot to go for, methinks.

    A while back, I put the word out on how I personally felt about certain kinds of remarks made by our members in those self-ban threads. If a member, say, starts dumping on the departing guy over things that the member could have Reported earlier but didn't, it doesn't seem fair to only now bring them up at departure time. And gang-ups are not cool. What is ok, is fair comment.

    Sometimes, a departing member will make unfair or irrational statements in his self-ban request that beg for response. As moderator, I used to question the member on these things he said, on the idea that if I could fix something then maybe I could help him reconsider leaving. I learned that, more often than not, I only made it worse, as he didn't really want redress, he just wanted to be shitty on his way out the door. He is at the pinnacle of his dissatisfaction with us. Nowadays, I may make a general request, "Is there anything I can do?" but for the most part I simply honor the dude's request and ban him. With that done, I will in that thread give my response to his shitty comments and I can be quite pointed on what we deserve and what we do not deserve, especially when I am mopping up damage from his complaints that are unfair and really made no sense. If a departing member starts dumping on us over things that he could have Reported earlier but didn't, it doesn't seem fair to only now bring them up at departure time. If our members weigh in, in that thread, as long as it is a defensible thing to say, I wouldn't moderate it.


    3/ Unboxxed the moderator and the Admin of the site need to use a lot more introspection rather than just attack people and decrease site activity further. Unless that is the goal, in which case, well done. Keep it up.
    3) Jagr and I are both Admin, plus I moderate. You'd have to give me an example of me for this. Likely I was enforcing our Principles. I have no need to just go around picking on people.


    4/ Lack of free speech. How many members got banned or warned for mentioning race or politics? How many left due to that? A big factor in your lack membership and activity but the bigger factor is the Admin and their over the top manner in giving warnings.
    4) For just mentioning race or politics? I doubt that. More like they violated our Principles around those topics. My habit is to avoid giving out Infractions and Warnings, if reasoning can be had. Now, if you are meaning the less-than-formal warnings (lower case) in my conversation, I wonder what you call "over the top" in my manner.


    Anyway, figured I would throw it out there. If it gets published at all you can all attack and whatever. But you can't deny that the site has decreased activity wise.
    Deny it? Good grief, we are talking about it! How else did you know to write us?!!

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Wut? Is Nacho Vidal arisen from the depths of Hades?
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    The OP does not indicate if he self-banned or simply let his account go inactive. Nor did he provide his reason(s) for either.

    He didn't insert himself into his observations so I infer that none of them happened to him during his time here.

    OP, how and why did you leave?
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    I also think that the two-page "address the selection criteria" job application style of intro requirement is a bit over the top. Unboxxed was always a strong proponent of enforcing the intro requirement, even before he was a mod, even when he was fairly new to the site. I'm also not a fan of the requirement that applicants be strictly red pill. Back when I was more active, the only real requirement that I had for intros was that the person intro themselves in their own words - enough meat to persuade me that we are dealing with a real person, and not immediately smell like a woman or someone here to troll. You can always uninvite someone later. And as to Red Pill: the purple-pillers are the very guys who need to be here and talking with a divorced older dude.

    But I have to disagree with the OP about the restraints on muh free speech. The laws and constitution of the United States of America do not apply in most of the world, and in certain parts of the world it is illegal to point out that the pyramids were built by Greeks, or that certain chimneys look very much like they were hastily built by Russians, or that it's unusual for a hospital or orphanage to have a glass shopfront window and be on Main st. Certain things are better said over at Stormfront (or whatever it is nowadays).

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    But I have to disagree with the OP about the restraints on muh free speech. The laws and constitution of the United States of America do not apply in most of the world, ...
    From what I hear these days, those laws dont apply even to United States of America either !

    Also, and this is a response to any proponent of 'free speech'. The free speech never works for a long period of time for any diverse group of people. It always breaks down into chaos and in-fighting. Restricted speech is known to work, has always worked, and can be considered necessary to prevent non-stop bickering. Yes the restrictions on this site dont entirely overlap with my own beliefs and viewpoints, but the overlap is good enough that I can still talk with a reasonable freedom, considering the fact that the things which I cannot write, can likely land the mods/admins into trouble with the laws of their respective countries and they dont owe me anything to take the risk so I can have my "free speech".
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Unboxxed was always a strong proponent of enforcing the intro requirement, even before he was a mod, even when he was fairly new to the site.
    Well, okay, we will talk about it here. I feel compelled to defend what you wrote, as I know the thoughts that crop up every now and then. When I was new to the site in 2014, I was told I had to do an Intro. I saw others were not made to do an Intro. Ok, so noted. As time went on, I saw enforcement of the Intro was lax or maybe I should say it was dependent on what appeared to be the intermittent attendance by the mods. Yeah, I know we all have lives. Trolls and other types who cared not about the site would register (no Intro moderation bucket back then) and start posting their stuff anywhere, or they'd sit it out awhile then start posting later, evading notice by the mods, I saw exactly how they were doing it, and their puerile posts would show up on the site. Ok, so noted. Then, yeah, maybe a mod would show up at some point, post something in the thread right under the troll's post, to say to do an Intro, whether the troll would ever come back to that same thread to read what the mod posted is speculative, as trolls like to troll rather than be a partner to their own disciplinary action, and I saw mod follow-up was patchy at best such that it was so easy for the trolls to ignore what the mods said. Ok, so noted. And so the mold spreads. I was at that stage of newness where I was wondering just what kind of site this place is, after having also been to another MGTOW site (that shall go nameless) just to see what a bunch of anything-goes was going on over there, too. What is a MGTOW forum? Just yet another place to fuck off with anything? Maybe so. But not for me. Maybe I am too intellectual, but I didn't think that stuff made this a great place, sorry. In my short time as a newbie, I saw an uptick in the non-MGTOW posters, spiting the Intro requirements, the trolls were slowly winning it appeared, outpacing the mod efforts to catch it, and I wondered if I was crazy or what, for what I was seeing, as to the lack of consistency here between what was apparently expected and what was happening. I was still a regular member, not a mod. I should keep my place. But, then what? I was considering leaving this site, deciding the problem was just me, always me, expecting better.

    It's not that I was Intro-centric. I wasn't. But one day another member wrote a post about the troll arc of increase, lamenting what the hell is going on with this site anymore, it wasn't like it used to be. Ha, my twin had spoken. He saw what I saw. Validation. His post was the turning point for me. Why sit and do nothing and watch the complaints slowly roll in until the complaints are many, possibly past a tipping point of correction? Who's in charge? Now, I am not the type to run away like so many others then complain from a safe distance. No, if I see something needs improvement, I will stay and step up if no one else is stepping up. That's the way I'm built. Maybe my intuition places me ahead of the curve. My attitude was gung ho: If no one cares, then's who's gonna care if I start caring? LOL. There was an arc of increase. I believed the various problems and inefficiencies all seemed to be a downstream consequence of one thing: insufficient attention given to the Intro stage of membership. And that's how I became Intro-centric. I started speaking up without pretending to be a mod. So, as a regular member, I started acting like a "mod assistant", without permission, notifying people who posted but who had no intro, posting my boiler-plate notices under their posts telling them to visit the How To Intro sticky, write an Intro, saying we all had to do one, and if they ignore this step a mod may take further action. If you look at my pre-2019 post history, you will see plenty of this. And I kept it up. I WAS JUST A REGULAR MEMBER DOING THIS AND NO ONE STOPPED ME.

    In fact, I was getting noticed for it. I was the Intro Enforcer, I suppose. Thomas Covenant asked me if he could nominate me to become a Mod, surely for my pro-site assertiveness combined with shows of equanimity I believe, and I declined the offer because of my other website. Within a few months, IIRC, SR again asked me to be a mod and this time I accepted. Nothing was said about my Intro-Enforcement energy. In fact, I saw later a thread in the mods-only Bunker sub-forum where the mods were discussing whether or not to invite me in as a mod, where it was mentioned I was good at policing Intros plus I was here more often than other mods, and a defender of site policies. Sounded like my circus act was in demand. The nicest compliment I ever received was shortly after becoming a mod when a member posted that he wished there were ten of me. So far, so good.

    And, Jagr and I started PMing about stuff in general, what his expectations were of me, etc. Either I impressed him or he got sick and tired of me asking him questions about site functionality because, only a few months after becoming a mod, he unilaterally decided to promote me to Admin with the same site privileges as he, telling me two things: 1) do not turn off the site, and 2) consult proposed policy changes with him. I didn't ask him for that. Now, that's trust, when I don't even know the dude.

    So, here I am, the same hands-on guy as the newbie in 2014 except more visible. To think I was poised to self-ban.

    I'm also not a fan of the requirement that applicants be strictly red pill. Back when I was more active, the only real requirement that I had for intros was that the person intro themselves in their own words - enough meat to persuade me that we are dealing with a real person, and not immediately smell like a woman or someone here to troll. You can always uninvite someone later. And as to Red Pill: the purple-pillers are the very guys who need to be here and talking with a divorced older dude.
    I'm not saying you are directing your above point at me, but as best as I can determine Jagr wrote the How to Intro sticky's three numbered requirements. I am only a good soldier to enforce what he wrote. In that sticky, he speaks only of blue pill becoming red pill. No purple pill. No black pill. I do recall a mod informing me along the way that purple pills and incels do not belong here, so that you know I actually felt I had to ask. I'm a good soldier. If Jagr wants to make any changes in a way that keeps all of us on the same page, I will implement whatever he wants. He da boss. Until then, I have his sticky instructions. If other mods do it their way, I guess that's between them and Jagr.

    You can always uninvite someone later.
    Purple pills are not just the guys sincerely seeking fortification from us towards full red pill. Purple pill also includes those who want marriage and who also like us and seek advice from us to achieve their blue pill goals. I've turned two of them away recently, in fact. Do we want them as members, these marriage-minded guys who call themselves MGTOW until I explain to them why they are not? Some existing members have stated no. I've encouraged purple pillers to continue to read our site and contact us via this nonmember sub-forum. They are free to interact with us in this way.

    Whatever Jagr wants. Under existing instructions, only reds pills get accepted, so there's very little to uninvite. Streamlined, in a sense.
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    I say grill the fuckers until their skin falls off!

    I'm a mod on another site and an admin of my own site. I'll walk into a romper room with a flame thrower to quiet things down! I have a short fuse when it comes to a smartass trying to burrow under my skin with innuendos and nitpicking, out comes the hammer!

    I don't believe pussy chasers have anything to offer but disgust! May as well allow radical feminists join up!

    Time to time you'll notice my foot in there kicking these clowns in the head! They don't belong here, they're still clinging onto false hopes and not taking appropriate measures, they can only give bad advice if any at all.
    It's almost over...

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Thank you for your observations. Do you mind if I make a few of my own?

    1/ The initiation essay to get in is just too much.
    I have read this a few times from prospective members and I agree that it may be off-putting for some, but it does have the benefit of fairly effectively weeding out trolls. It also allows us to see how forthcoming, and thus how active new members may be. If they just want to read, they can do this without joining. O.K. maybe it isn’t perfect, but what method is?

    With regards hazing, Unboxxed has explained this well.

    But my main issue with this point is it doesn’t explain anything r.e. members leaving – you must already have passed the intro and become a member before you can leave.

    2/ When members leave (request a self ban) they are attacked on their way out.
    Yes sometimes they are, maybe because another member has a particular gripe as to the reasons. Shouldn’t really happen but there you are – free speech ‘n all. For the most part the criticism I’ve seen about those requesting self bans is “Why bother?”

    Seems reasonable to me. If someone no longer wishes to participate then why request a ban? Just simply stop logging in!

    3/ Unboxxed the moderator and the Admin of the site need to use a lot more introspection rather than just attack people and decrease site activity further.
    Attack people? Attack who, why and how exactly? Whilst I may not always be 100% behind some of these alleged “attacks” they (mods, especially Unboxxed) always go to great lengths to explain their actions and why it is necessary. More than can be said for most other sites. Good enough for me!

    4/ Lack of free speech.
    Unboxxed has already addressed this more than adequately. I have nothing more to add.

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    1) do not turn off the site
    Chuckled a bit at that !!! First things first : DONT PRESS THE RED BUTTON !!!
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Shouldn’t really happen but there you are – free speech ‘n all.
    That's worth pointing out, isn't it? We are told we lack free speech but, at the same time, the same person doesn't support free speech in the Intros, and doesn't support free speech in the Outros. I get it, he doesn't like free speech that lacks courtesy or manners or respect. At certain times, I suppose, he does have his limits to free speech. Maybe he believes in free speech limits to style but not content? In other words, be able to say limitless things about race or politics but just don't be discourteous and disrespectful about it? How does that work? How could that ever work? Who is that adept? And would we want them to lead us?
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    The OP does not indicate if he self-banned or simply let his account go inactive. Nor did he provide his reason(s) for either.

    He didn't insert himself into his observations so I infer that none of them happened to him during his time here.

    OP, how and why did you leave?
    I self banned. I did experience some of the observations I mentioned in my post as well. One of the reasons I self banned is because I saw other active, genuine and interesting members get banned either temporarily or permanent or self ban as well.

    Regardless of how you want to take my feed back the evidence is what it is. The site has become less and less active. I just thought I would put forward some possible reasons for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I say grill the fuckers until their skin falls off!

    I'm a mod on another site and an admin of my own site. I'll walk into a romper room with a flame thrower to quiet things down! I have a short fuse when it comes to a smartass trying to burrow under my skin with innuendos and nitpicking, out comes the hammer!

    I don't believe pussy chasers have anything to offer but disgust! May as well allow radical feminists join up!

    Time to time you'll notice my foot in there kicking these clowns in the head! They don't belong here, they're still clinging onto false hopes and not taking appropriate measures, they can only give bad advice if any at all.
    Sure. and I too have been a moderator and even co Admin of a forum. I know there are lots of dickheads around. The other well known MGTOW forum was taken over (or at least appeared to be) by dickheads at one point.

    But, I am not talking about having a forum full of children behaving like children. I just mean being able to have Open, Intelligent, Discussion without having the Admin come along and say "You can't say that!"

    There is a fine line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Thank you for your observations. Do you mind if I make a few of my own?



    I have read this a few times from prospective members and I agree that it may be off-putting for some, but it does have the benefit of fairly effectively weeding out trolls. It also allows us to see how forthcoming, and thus how active new members may be. If they just want to read, they can do this without joining. O.K. maybe it isn’t perfect, but what method is?

    With regards hazing, Unboxxed has explained this well.

    But my main issue with this point is it doesn’t explain anything r.e. members leaving – you must already have passed the intro and become a member before you can leave.



    Yes sometimes they are, maybe because another member has a particular gripe as to the reasons. Shouldn’t really happen but there you are – free speech ‘n all. For the most part the criticism I’ve seen about those requesting self bans is “Why bother?”

    Seems reasonable to me. If someone no longer wishes to participate then why request a ban? Just simply stop logging in!



    Attack people? Attack who, why and how exactly? Whilst I may not always be 100% behind some of these alleged “attacks” they (mods, especially Unboxxed) always go to great lengths to explain their actions and why it is necessary. More than can be said for most other sites. Good enough for me!



    Unboxxed has already addressed this more than adequately. I have nothing more to add.
    I know my issue with the essay was a case of "How do I know these guys are genuine?" I did the essay anyway and was genuine about it. I still feel though that if someone wanted to it would be easy enough to write bullshit and get through provided they said all of the "Right" things.

    Hence why I question it's value.

    I have also seen people leave during that process because of the hazing or being grilled further on things even though their intro was pretty straight forward.

    Sure, but why also not just have an Account Delete function like a lot of sites do?

    I have seen people get attacked. Like I have already mentioned, you can take what I am saying any way you wish but what you can't refute is the declining activity here.

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    But you can't deny that the site has decreased activity wise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The site has become less and less active. I just thought I would put forward some possible reasons for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    but what you can't refute is the declining activity here.
    OP, as I said before, no one is denying. No one is refuting. Are you in an imaginary disagreement that no one but you is having?

    You keep closing with this comment which means it's a point that is important to you. Usually the repetition means that a desired response has not yet been received. Perhaps you should tell us directly what a desired response would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    But, I am not talking about having a forum full of children behaving like children. I just mean being able to have Open, Intelligent, Discussion without having the Admin come along and say "You can't say that!"

    There is a fine line.
    What are you talking about? Why don't you give specific examples? Recent ones, to save me from reminding you how long ago things used to be.

    I'm starting to think that you have something you are carrying with you unnecessarily.
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I know my issue with the essay was a case of "How do I know these guys are genuine?" I did the essay anyway and was genuine about it. I still feel though that if someone wanted to it would be easy enough to write bullshit and get through provided they said all of the "Right" things.

    Hence why I question it's value.
    Too true. I accept this point. Anyone with a little red-pill knowledge could come up with an effective intro even if totally imaginary.

    But they would have to have intent and that intent would soon be recognised by their posts, hence Mr. Wombats stance, and a very valid stance it is.

    However, there is the question of trolls. They tend to be lazy bastards. They just want to poke and prod. They don't have the intelligence to form a coherent intro that would be believable because they're thick cunts.

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post

    What are you talking about? Why don't you give specific examples? Recent ones, to save me from reminding you how long ago things used to be.

    I'm starting to think that you have something you are carrying with you unnecessarily.
    Nope. As previously mentioned, I was just bored and clicked on the site and saw the thread which prompted this thread.

    I was just giving some feedback on the obvious decline in activity.

    Your responses actually explain the decline even more.

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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Your responses actually explain the decline even more.
    Smells of fish to me. Manipulative putdown without supportive reasoning. We have answered your points. Please make some more.

    We discuss, we debate, we even argue. Where's the problem?

    If you can't stand the heat...

    No wonder you left.
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    Re: Where did everyone go? Some feedback from a former forum member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Nope. As previously mentioned, I was just bored and clicked on the site and saw the thread which prompted this thread.

    I was just giving some feedback on the obvious decline in activity.

    Your responses actually explain the decline even more.
    Ha, you just can't miss a chance to close with it yet again! LOL Q.E.D.

    Your last statement, what an annoying female-like thing to say! What kind of man keeps that up?

    Women often won't do the work of backing up the things they say, expecting me to somehow cooperatively find myself guilty in their general accusations.

    Ain't falling for it, honey. But you keep trying.

    You seem to advocate for an "Open, Intelligent, Discussion" so act like a man and produce. Where are your recent examples to back up your cat scratches? If examples exist, let's talk about them. I'm not afraid. Don't you be. Put up or shut up.

    If you think I am directly connected to a decline in posting, act like a man and say it, instead if your womanly repetitive swipes. Fuck. I don't go for that shit.

    You are, in my view, a conversational coward. And that's being gracious. We are at keyboards. No physical punches can be thrown. There is nothing to fear here. I'm trying to make it a safe space for you, honey. So, talk to me, bitch.

    Let's see whatcha got, beyond your repetitive digs. Let's get somewhere with this. I like the company of men.
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