Thread: What is your analysis of this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk

It contradicts the narrative about her in MGTOW circles. The idea is that there's no accountability, always blaming men, and "Carouseling," but she is saying she's been the problem before. Her success, including with her own writing, is also only growing in her thirties which is also the opposite of what people thought would happen both with maturing and with "going woke." ANd she's been in a stable relationship for six years. So what happened to the "Carousel" theory?

Well, as soon as I clicked and saw it was Taylor Swift, someone who knows how to operate her audience to become as rich as she has become, and saw that it was her singing yet another song, I clicked off at the 4-second mark.

You take this quite seriously, don't you, a music video and its lyrics? Does Beyonce move you? Did Becky with the good hair pull you in?

(I try to notice marketing techniques of the Pied Pipers among us.)

Nobody really knows the truth about these people's lives, sorry to ruin it for you.

As soon as it's time for Swift to shift her public POV again, revealing herself in yet another way to ensure the money trucks keep rolling in, no doubt she'll shift, and you'll be right there, taking it all in.

Just don't come here with it.

TL;DR: IDGAF

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

You take this quite seriously, don't you, a music video and its lyrics? Does Beyonce move you? Did Becky with the good hair pull you in?

Some members of your forum seem to with regard to some songs. There are several threads about what particular songs by women reveal about female nature or the "Carousel," including some by her in particular.

Yes, I suppose you are right. The human investment in story-telling. Some people use songs as the banners they wave, and see other songs as banners waved at them.

To me, it's all just horseshit at the end of the day. Money-making, fan-attracting words set to music, in full expectation that it's bait. People listen to the songs then use them as proxies for actual events that may have never happened to them or the singer. And fight about it. You're here for that, others may respond, she makes money for having mattered.

And your dead serious about it all.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Well, as soon as I clicked and saw it was Taylor Swift ...

... I closed the tab before the song even loaded.

However I still have an analysis -- It's over-engineered plastic shit.

Sometimes song lyrics touch a chord in your life, but to believe that the person singing them live by them is beyond stupidity.

But, for the sake of argument let’s say she is opening up about herself. Doesn’t she say “I never look in the mirror” that she has no concept of reflection upon her actions? That "she is the problem"?

Sounds about right to me. If anything this re-enforces the notion of the carousel.

Just because she’s “been in a stable relationship for six years” is no indication of how many cocks she’s been enjoying during this time. All relationships are “stable” until the truth outs.

I've got to concur with Unboxxed. Taylor Swift is a marketing juggernaut and songs are products to be sold and bring people to concerts. Maybe this song or any song by any musician offers a glimpse into their life but it is presented by them, as they want to present it and it is designed as a product to be moved. So the songwriting and the presentation already has a tilt to make it appealing for mass consumption. It is in no way an unbiased presentation of her life. That's her whole schtick is to offer what appear to be glimpses into her love life. She's made a career out of it and her target market, decidedly female, has made her very wealthy because they can all relate to being slighted by some man, at some time, somewhere.

She started as a country singer right? And I bet someone, probably a manager said to her that with her looks and youth she could make a lot more money doing pop. So she switched to pop. Good on her for making the bucks but it's obvious to me she isn't really in it for the music even though she is often seen playing guitars that suggest she would like to be playing music that is very different to what she pumps out.

TL;DR I don't think we should be admiring sellouts.

Most of these musicians sing songs that have nothing to do with themselves personally.
If they believe the song will be popular, they go with it.
Follow the $$$$$.

Originally Posted by NorthwoodsHermit

If they believe the song will be popular, they go with it.
Follow the $$$$$.

More often, a manager decides.

Singer songwriters are an exception, but even they sometimes cover other artists.