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    Past Rejections

    When you were blue pill did you ever try to initiate a relationship with a girl and you got a rude response? I mean you were real nice about it and she had just a nasty response. I have often wondered about these experiences and wondered why that happened. You may have thought back then that she did that because she had some correct moral reasoning behind it but in the end you just can't figure it out because she acted just as useless the next day.

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    Re: Past Rejections

    Honestly, no.

    Yes I got rejections but nothing overtly rude. Yes I may have been ridiculed afterwards, but never to my face.

    But I come from a different era and Ireland was nothing like the U.S. or the U.K. when I was dating (some 20-30 years ago). There was no internet and I believe this is part of the problem. Women are social beings in-so-far as they are overly concerned with how they appear to others. This has been exacerbated with the introduction of the internet.

    Also I never really hit on women I didn't know - yes I may have done a few times but it was so long ago I can't really recall. I preferred to chat with them in a social environment. If I was interested and they seemed interested then I would ask them out, if they didn't seem interested I moved on. No problems. In this scenario my hit rate would have been fairly high, but only amongst those that had indicated interest so it is biased.

    That being said, times have changed. Women have become arrogant and seem to get a kick out of slamming an interested guy. I would be interested in hearing your views in todays market.

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    OP, yes. This is very common in more recent times and can be a reply of an offer to help. I will note from lower quality women. When they can reject you publicly they feel this is a self esteem boost, along the lines like "I am of high value, how dare you think I would match with you!!!"

    My example: A female co-worker had mechanical problems and was at the workshop getting repairs done, not a quick fix. I offered to drop her off where her crew was working, she rejected me and implied that I had tried to make an advance on her, this was in a loud voice so many could hear it. I just put up my arms, turned around and left, this happened nearly 2 years ago and I refuse to go near her and I will never talk to her again. I do not need HR on my case. She knows how I feel and has tried to approach me, I just walk away. She is likely 20yrs younger than myself also.

    I don't believe in doing much with anyone at at work that does not involve work. Dating would never happen, I seldom go out with the boys for a beer. I just like leaving work at work. I do not even go to the Christmas parties.

    How to avoid it: Avoid females... Like I said before, this is common in lower quality women, they need the self esteem boost, hit on higher quality women, rejection is rejection but everyone doesn't need to know about it.

    I find female nature an interesting topic. So interesting that now I can't un-see the manipulation and games they play.

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    Re: Past Rejections

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't believe in doing much with anyone at at work that does not involve work. Dating would never happen, I seldom go out with the boys for a beer. I just like leaving work at work. I do not even go to the Christmas parties.

    How to avoid it: Avoid females... Like I said before, this is common in lower quality women, they need the self esteem boost, hit on higher quality women, rejection is rejection but everyone doesn't need to know about it.
    I agree with the work stance. Work is work and play is play, never the twain should meet.

    As for "lower quality" and "higher quality" women - there's no such thing, they're all pretty much the same it's just they're after different things.

    I assume by "lower quality" you are referring to relatively uneducated, maybe working class (if that's still a thing any more). Yes they can be loud, obnoxious and offensive but this because they're looking for the strong man, the protector.

    The "higher quality" woman you refer to is possibly better educated and seemingly more refined. She is looking for the provider, someone educated and gainfully employed, someone who has money or has the potential to make money, money that she can then spend.

    Don't be fooled, they're all looking for something that benefits them in some way. They don't give a shit about you. If it appears otherwise that just means they have a better disguise.

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    Yes, I have been rejected rudely many times. As others have said, it is common. I'll firmly second another poster's point that a nasty rejection is more likely from lower quality women. Back when I used to try with women, near the end of that phase in my life, I found that the women you can get has increasingly little correlation with their attractiveness. Its more about the situation. Once on holiday I met an american girl who I hit it off with; she was by far the most attractive woman I've ever succeeded with. Comfortably a 9/10. I've been rejected, sometimes viciously, by girls that are 2s or 3s. Its more about whether or not they are actually looking to hook up (or reject you for an ego boost) and whether or not you're the best thing on other.*

    As another poster said too, the ugly ones reject more nastily. When I've been turned down by hotties, its mostly been in a nice or at least civil way.

    Don't get me wrong, a man being more muscular, more visibly wealthy etc will always help but the primary variable is the woman's view.



    In short, if you're asking because this has happened to you, don't worry about it, the issue is the women, not you.

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    *On a related note, never try online dating; its a complete waste of time. Many of the women on there are not actually looking for a relationship or even to hook up; they just want attention or simps for their only fans. Secondly, the ones who are up for something have access to the profiles of tens or even hundreds of thousands of men within a reasonable distance of themselves. So the odds of being the top 1% or whatever it is women want are effectively zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    OP, yes. This is very common in more recent times and can be a reply of an offer to help. I will note from lower quality women. When they can reject you publicly they feel this is a self esteem boost, along the lines like "I am of high value, how dare you think I would match with you!!!"

    My example: A female co-worker had mechanical problems and was at the workshop getting repairs done, not a quick fix. I offered to drop her off where her crew was working, she rejected me and implied that I had tried to make an advance on her, this was in a loud voice so many could hear it. I just put up my arms, turned around and left, this happened nearly 2 years ago and I refuse to go near her and I will never talk to her again. I do not need HR on my case. She knows how I feel and has tried to approach me, I just walk away. She is likely 20yrs younger than myself also.

    I don't believe in doing much with anyone at at work that does not involve work. Dating would never happen, I seldom go out with the boys for a beer. I just like leaving work at work. I do not even go to the Christmas parties.

    How to avoid it: Avoid females... Like I said before, this is common in lower quality women, they need the self esteem boost, hit on higher quality women, rejection is rejection but everyone doesn't need to know about it.

    I find female nature an interesting topic. So interesting that now I can't un-see the manipulation and games they play.
    I wrote this before I signed up.

    @Jackoff, by "Higher quality" I meant women with higher SMV (looks), and better personalities, the ones that are more "Down to earth"? A better family environment when she grew up in? Higher education might work against quality if they think they are better than they are because of a degree, etc. that means nothing and no jobs to use it.
    "Low quality" are women who think they are an 8 or 9 when they are a 4 or lower SMV, they are likely the first ones to claim to be a victim. Or claim to be on the side of a victim but only for their own gains or self esteem boost. And as my example above the ones that will burn a bridge for their own self esteem boost not caring for other's in collateral damage doing it.
    "Don't be fooled": Yes, I know only too well Briffault's Law.... NOW!!! There is no partnership in a relationship or marriage, overall recourses only go one way, male to the female. Give a woman everything you have and they will have nothing to stay/work for.

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    Re: Past Rejections

    Let's see ...I've had women reject me by...

    Spitting on me.
    Stomping on my roses.
    Treating me like dog poop on a sidewalk
    Hitting me
    Having me jumped by 5 other guys
    Lying about me
    Getting me arrested
    Getting me suspended
    Spreading rumors about me


    That's just off the top of my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    Let's see ...I've had women reject me by...

    Spitting on me.
    Stomping on my roses.
    Treating me like dog poop on a sidewalk
    Hitting me
    Having me jumped by 5 other guys
    Lying about me
    Getting me arrested
    Getting me suspended
    Spreading rumors about me


    That's just off the top of my head.
    Wow.

    You make it sound like the norm where you are. It would be very rare here (Ireland) for a woman to be so overtly rude to a proposition. This is, of course only my opinion.

    Don't get me wrong, they will still reject guys for all the reasons we discuss, but they usually aren't as nasty about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Wow.

    You make it sound like the norm where you are. It would be very rare here (Ireland) for a woman to be so overtly rude to a proposition. This is, of course only my opinion.

    Don't get me wrong, they will still reject guys for all the reasons we discuss, but they usually aren't as nasty about it.
    Its the norm for me. Women have hated me my entire life even when I was in the womb. The only woman who cared about me was my mom but she is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    The only woman who cared about me was my mom but she is gone.
    I feel for you friend. I've lost both parents and a sister. It still occasionally surprises me after years just how much these losses have affected me and continue to do so.

    But, if you'll permit me to say this, these loses can have a positive effect if you let them.

    Let me explain.

    I can look at the deaths in my family and say "What's the point?"

    Or I can look at the deaths in my family and say: "What did they miss out on?" and how can I do better?

    In other words, I look to them and my memories of them and look for inspiration. I think this is a good way to remember them.

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    Re: Past Rejections

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    Let's see ...I've had women reject me by...
    …Stomping on my roses…
    …Getting me arrested…

    If you are bringing a woman roses, no wonder you are getting arrested. LOL!


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