Thread: Husbands need to be able to punish/discipline their wives

Hi, I'm Liam, 37 from the uk and this is my first post here. I hope its ok to post this. My father was a strict husband and my mother had to obey him always, never answer back never argue or talk to him badly. If she stepped out of line she got the belt or a different punishment like not being allowed to do things she wanted to do, made to stay home (i guess like being grounded) having to sleep on the sofa (usually its the man who has to do this, in my dads house that would never happen, my mum would be on the sofa) The best advice my dad gave me was that when i got married i should ''keep a belt to hand'' which is something i took on board totally.

I know some people would say corporal punishment is abuse but i don't believe it is. Its great for correction as long as you don't go crazy with it. Make it safe, hard but safe. And as i said there are other punishments a husband can give to his wife besides the belt anyway.

The point of my post is that i feel that the world now, where women are not being disciplined properly and they are not submitting to their husbands, is a problem. Now women do what they like, behave as they like and this is the problem. If a husband tried to use corporal punishment or any other punishment the woman doesn't tolerate it and says its abuse or whatever. My mother always knew that my dad would not tolerate any bad behaviour. She knew if she behaved she didn't get punished. misbehave and she was punished. She said herself that it was really very simple and easy to do.

When i got married i made it clear from the start that my wife would obey me and what was expected of her. She had to sign a contract agreeing to my rules and i made it clear that she would expect to be punished for disobedience. We've been married for 10 years and there are no problems because she is the same as my mother and she understands how she must behave as my wife. I have brothers and other family who have been in miserable marriages and relationships because they are ending up with women who are not like that and i see it as a big problem.

I know my views are possibly controversial but i'm not talking about abuse i'm talking about punishment/discipline which is fair and done sanely. A man who goes mad, loses control and just outright abuses a woman or anyone else i don't and never will support. But lack of discipline and punishment husbands not having proper control of their wives and not being able to punish when needed is part of how we've ended up where we are now with women and girls and why they are out of control.

Originally Posted by Liam2022

Hi, I'm Liam, 37 from the uk and this is my first post here. I hope its ok to post this. My father was a strict husband and my mother had to obey him always, never answer back never argue or talk to him badly. If she stepped out of line she got the belt or a different punishment like not being allowed to do things she wanted to do, made to stay home (i guess like being grounded) having to sleep on the sofa (usually its the man who has to do this, in my dads house that would never happen, my mum would be on the sofa) The best advice my dad gave me was that when i got married i should ''keep a belt to hand'' which is something i took on board totally.

I know some people would say corporal punishment is abuse but i don't believe it is. Its great for correction as long as you don't go crazy with it. Make it safe, hard but safe. And as i said there are other punishments a husband can give to his wife besides the belt anyway.

The point of my post is that i feel that the world now, where women are not being disciplined properly and they are not submitting to their husbands, is a problem. Now women do what they like, behave as they like and this is the problem. If a husband tried to use corporal punishment or any other punishment the woman doesn't tolerate it and says its abuse or whatever. My mother always knew that my dad would not tolerate any bad behaviour. She knew if she behaved she didn't get punished. misbehave and she was punished. She said herself that it was really very simple and easy to do.

When i got married i made it clear from the start that my wife would obey me and what was expected of her. She had to sign a contract agreeing to my rules and i made it clear that she would expect to be punished for disobedience. We've been married for 10 years and there are no problems because she is the same as my mother and she understands how she must behave as my wife. I have brothers and other family who have been in miserable marriages and relationships because they are ending up with women who are not like that and i see it as a big problem.

I know my views are possibly controversial but i'm not talking about abuse i'm talking about punishment/discipline which is fair and done sanely. A man who goes mad, loses control and just outright abuses a woman or anyone else i don't and never will support. But lack of discipline and punishment husbands not having proper control of their wives and not being able to punish when needed is part of how we've ended up where we are now with women and girls and why they are out of control.

Liam2022,

Registered membership on our site is for MGTOW only.

You are a happily married blue pill guy and thus cannot be a registered member here, so I have closed your account.

I've moved your post to our Nonmember Questions and Opposing Views sub-forum where its edginess is not sanctioned by us. We do not believe in wives or marriage or your involvement that you've described.

That sub-forum is where non-MGTOW people should post.

OP- I read what you wrote. Here is how I read it.

So the way to a good wife is to marry her. Saddle myself with the legalities and dangers that go with that.

Then write a second contract with her. Stating how she will behave. Have her agree to corporal punishment. So I can bop her around a bit if required to keep her in line.

Then hope all that will sit well with all the white knights, SJW's, Feminists, law enforcement, etc. just to name a few?

Glad to hear you are having luck with that.

I'm out. No thanks. Got no use for any of that.
My life is so much easier and safer for me than all of that.

Originally Posted by O.G.

OP- I read what you wrote. Here is how I read it.

So the way to a good wife is to marry her. Saddle myself with the legalities and dangers that go with that.

Then write a second contract with her. Stating how she will behave. Have her agree to corporal punishment. So I can bop her around a bit if required to keep her in line.

Then hope all that will sit well with all the white knights, SJW's, Feminists, law enforcement, etc. just to name a few?

All she has to do to destroy his life is call the domestic abuse hotline and his life is OVER!

OP - I hope you realise you're FUCKED if she ever decides to do it. Here's what is classified as domestic abuse in UK: (link: https://www.womensaid.org.uk/informa...omestic-abuse/)

• Destructive criticism and verbal abuse: shouting; mocking; accusing; name calling; verbally threatening.
• Pressure tactics: sulking; threatening to withhold money, disconnecting the phone and internet, taking away or destroying your mobile, tablet or laptop, taking the car away, taking the children away; threatening to report you to the police, social services or the mental health team unless you comply with his demands; threatening or attempting self-harm and suicide; withholding or pressuring you to use drugs or other substances; lying to your friends and family about you; telling you that you have no choice in any decisions.
• Disrespect: persistently putting you down in front of other people; not listening or responding when you talk; interrupting your telephone calls; taking money from your purse without asking; refusing to help with childcare or housework.
• Breaking trust: lying to you; withholding information from you; being jealous; having other relationships; breaking promises and shared agreements.
• Isolation: monitoring or blocking your phone calls, e-mails and social media accounts, telling you where you can and cannot go; preventing you from seeing friends and relatives; shutting you in the house.
• Harassment: following you; checking up on you; not allowing you any privacy (for example, opening your mail, going through your laptop, tablet or mobile), repeatedly checking to see who has phoned you; embarrassing you in public; accompanying you everywhere you go.
• Threats: making angry gestures; using physical size to intimidate; shouting you down; destroying your possessions; breaking things; punching walls; wielding a knife or a gun; threatening to kill or harm you and the children; threatening to kill or harm family pets; threats of suicide.
• Sexual violence: using force, threats or intimidation to make you perform sexual acts; having sex with you when you don’t want it; forcing you to look at pornographic material; constant pressure and harassment into having sex when you don’t want to, forcing you to have sex with other people; any degrading treatment related to your sexuality or to whether you are lesbian, bisexual or heterosexual.
• Physical violence: punching; slapping; hitting; biting; pinching; kicking; pulling hair out; pushing; shoving; burning; strangling, pinning you down, holding you by the neck, restraining you.
• Denial: saying the abuse doesn’t happen; saying you caused the abuse; saying you wind him up; saying he can’t control his anger; being publicly gentle and patient; crying and begging for forgiveness; saying it will never happen again.

Originally Posted by Liam2022

Hi, I'm Liam, 37 from the uk and this is my first post here. I hope its ok to post this. My father was a strict husband and my mother had to obey him always, never answer back never argue or talk to him badly. If she stepped out of line she got the belt or a different punishment like not being allowed to do things she wanted to do, made to stay home (i guess like being grounded) having to sleep on the sofa (usually its the man who has to do this, in my dads house that would never happen, my mum would be on the sofa) The best advice my dad gave me was that when i got married i should ''keep a belt to hand'' which is something i took on board totally.

I know some people would say corporal punishment is abuse but i don't believe it is. Its great for correction as long as you don't go crazy with it. Make it safe, hard but safe. And as i said there are other punishments a husband can give to his wife besides the belt anyway.

The point of my post is that i feel that the world now, where women are not being disciplined properly and they are not submitting to their husbands, is a problem. Now women do what they like, behave as they like and this is the problem. If a husband tried to use corporal punishment or any other punishment the woman doesn't tolerate it and says its abuse or whatever. My mother always knew that my dad would not tolerate any bad behaviour. She knew if she behaved she didn't get punished. misbehave and she was punished. She said herself that it was really very simple and easy to do.

When i got married i made it clear from the start that my wife would obey me and what was expected of her. She had to sign a contract agreeing to my rules and i made it clear that she would expect to be punished for disobedience. We've been married for 10 years and there are no problems because she is the same as my mother and she understands how she must behave as my wife. I have brothers and other family who have been in miserable marriages and relationships because they are ending up with women who are not like that and i see it as a big problem.

I know my views are possibly controversial but i'm not talking about abuse i'm talking about punishment/discipline which is fair and done sanely. A man who goes mad, loses control and just outright abuses a woman or anyone else i don't and never will support. But lack of discipline and punishment husbands not having proper control of their wives and not being able to punish when needed is part of how we've ended up where we are now with women and girls and why they are out of control.

Thank you for putting in writing your confession that you commit abuse, threats and coercion.

Holy shit. Ok yes I'm a red pill guy but that does not mean abuse, coercion or violence of any kind is ok. I do support self defense though but even that can be twisted and used as an excuse. Abuse is abuse.

Personally if I was in a relationship and if a woman truly cared about me, she shouldn't be a psycho bitch or act like they do today. So I saw the nature of women and keep females at a arms length. Freeing myself.

This information you have shared dude, is extreme that's just your need for control and lack thereof.

Women are closer to animals than men are
They actually respond sexually to violence and threats on a base level. Why do you think rape/domination is the #1 fantasy of women?

There is no going back to the "good old days" until society collapses and the government, weak men and womens power is gone. Once things are in survival mode, suddenly no one will be there to stick their nose in your business on how you raise your family.

Strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. Rinse and repeat.

Originally Posted by johnsmith79

All she has to do to destroy his life is call the domestic abuse hotline and his life is OVER!

OP - I hope you realise you're FUCKED if she ever decides to do it. Here's what is classified as domestic abuse in UK: (link: https://www.womensaid.org.uk/informa...omestic-abuse/)

• Destructive criticism and verbal abuse: shouting; mocking; accusing; name calling; verbally threatening.
• Pressure tactics: sulking; threatening to withhold money, disconnecting the phone and internet, taking away or destroying your mobile, tablet or laptop, taking the car away, taking the children away; threatening to report you to the police, social services or the mental health team unless you comply with his demands; threatening or attempting self-harm and suicide; withholding or pressuring you to use drugs or other substances; lying to your friends and family about you; telling you that you have no choice in any decisions.
• Disrespect: persistently putting you down in front of other people; not listening or responding when you talk; interrupting your telephone calls; taking money from your purse without asking; refusing to help with childcare or housework.
• Breaking trust: lying to you; withholding information from you; being jealous; having other relationships; breaking promises and shared agreements.
• Isolation: monitoring or blocking your phone calls, e-mails and social media accounts, telling you where you can and cannot go; preventing you from seeing friends and relatives; shutting you in the house.
• Harassment: following you; checking up on you; not allowing you any privacy (for example, opening your mail, going through your laptop, tablet or mobile), repeatedly checking to see who has phoned you; embarrassing you in public; accompanying you everywhere you go.
• Threats: making angry gestures; using physical size to intimidate; shouting you down; destroying your possessions; breaking things; punching walls; wielding a knife or a gun; threatening to kill or harm you and the children; threatening to kill or harm family pets; threats of suicide.
• Sexual violence: using force, threats or intimidation to make you perform sexual acts; having sex with you when you don’t want it; forcing you to look at pornographic material; constant pressure and harassment into having sex when you don’t want to, forcing you to have sex with other people; any degrading treatment related to your sexuality or to whether you are lesbian, bisexual or heterosexual.
• Physical violence: punching; slapping; hitting; biting; pinching; kicking; pulling hair out; pushing; shoving; burning; strangling, pinning you down, holding you by the neck, restraining you.
• Denial: saying the abuse doesn’t happen; saying you caused the abuse; saying you wind him up; saying he can’t control his anger; being publicly gentle and patient; crying and begging for forgiveness; saying it will never happen again.

Men are prohibited from doing any of this in any way, shape, or form. On the other hand, women are encouraged to do many of these activities in order to manipulate men into covert subjugation. In today's world, this is moving from covert to overt.

Originally Posted by The Captain

Men aren't allowed to do any of this in any way, shape, or form. On the other hand, women are encouraged to do many of these activities in order to manipulate men into covert subjugation. In today's world, this is moving from covert to overt.

Spot on! The only change I would make? "Men are prohibited", prohibited by a gauntlet of laws and guns that dictate otherwise!

We own nothing in the name of "family", the purple hair radical left commie school teacher has more say over the children than any father does! Society has put a tourniquet on men's balls and only the RP MGTOW seem to see it!

Where have all the good men gone?

Anywhere they can to avoid getting their balls in sling!

The bullshit not only ends with MGTOW, it dies here!

Most of the "purple/green haired" Socialist/Communist bunch couldn't work a full day in their entire lives. They're too busy dying their hair and fingering each other's pussies while moaning about the oppressive patriarchy to accomplish anything.

Their heads are filled with useless degrees including basket weaving and Queer Gender Studies. (They'll go far with these).

When Johnny Depp's wife physically disfigures him by throwing a vodka bottle at his hand, (cutting his finger to the bone) stubs out a cigarette butt on his face, then defecates on his side of the marital bed (blaming it on their dogs). How long will it be until she goes completely primeval and begins eating $#it and baying at the moon? Someone is not "all there" is she?

Gentler sex, my Aunt Martha!

When I got married in 1987, I was a blue-pilled Christian SIMP who expected my wife to submit to my authority. We discussed it, she agreed and it was in the Bible. However, once she arrived in the USA from the Philippines, she showed a very different side of herself. An aggressive, violent side. I went to the pastor of our church and asked, "How do I discipline my wife?" I had tried gently discussing her rebellious attitude with her and it did not work. So I was looking for practical guidance. However, he had none to offer. Instead, he looked at me in shock and said, "You discipline your children; you LOVE your wife." In my mind, discipline is always done in love. I had no intention of abusing her. Yet everyone seems to immediately jump to that erroneous conclusion.

After 10 years of worthless counseling, with me trying to be more understanding and more Christlike - and her growing ever more hostile an un-Christlike, I finally gave up and divorced her. Of course, the church elders immediately excommunicated me and forbid everyone in the congregation from having any contact with me - as if I was the sinful one. The reality is that she acted like a saint when she was in public and like a demon when we were alone. She was abusing me emotionally, mentally and financially. Which is why I "shook the dust off my feet" and walked away from the church for the last 22 years. I'm still a Christian, but church abuse, added to spousal abuse and family court abuse takes a big toll on a man.

Hi wildbill,

Thanks for sharing such a heart-breaking story.

Just so you know, I’m atheist.

That being said I have absolutely no problems with those of faith and am glad to read that you didn’t lose yours because of the actions of your Church.

I have major issues with what I term “Organised Religion” and your story serves to exemplify one more time why.

To be excommunicated and forbidden contact with family and lifelong friends for trying to protect yourself seems extremely cruel to me, certainly not a Christian attitude.

(I’m Irish ex-Catholic, many examples of abuse such as yours, and dare I say worse are prolific here.)

This is not the first time I’ve heard a story such as yours.

Nor, I fear, will it be the last.

Tell us Liam, how do you like jail food? If you don't know, your one phone call away from finding out.

Your methods used to work, but this is 2022 for Christs sake.