Thread: Help me understand

Why do you guys have issues with men who have extremely traumatized by every woman they encountered? Men like that ain’t gonna be talking peaceful about women and will come off as incels. They might be a little incoherent and defensive. Instead of shunning these men and rejecting them, why not talk to these men one on one? I’m just asking questions. I’m 42 years old and old
school. I actually believe in helping people who
have been damaged. I’m not seeing that here and I’ve been a lurker for a long time. I’ve also
noticed the same trend on other sites that claim to help damaged men.

You are very non-specific, casting a wide net, asking me to try to find examples to make your accusation true.

Instead, my response:

Our membership consists of many men who have had it very bad from women. That's why they went MGTOW. Back when our Intros were mandatory, I made every registrant talk about it, per our How To Intro sticky. Many registrants went ahead and told us without prompting, often with elaboration, of the things that women did to their lives.

If these men are incels, they are not welcome on this site. Men who are angry but not incel may show this in their Intros and acknowledge that they are angry, yet they still know to not take their anger out on us members or on the site. That is because we have Principles to follow which include behavior towards other members and avoidance of advocating violence against women.

We are not a screaming room, if you are suggesting a wide berth be given to a man's anger here. Nowadays, with Intros optional, I find that if I point out to a registrant/newbie that he is angry, he does not want to be that way and becomes cooperative with our Principles. He recognizes the value that we provide.

An unharnessed angry man, to me, is a man who has not Gone His Own Way but may be very close to doing so. If he violates our Principles in his anger, we will deal with him accordingly.

This site is all about communication between Men Who Have Gone Their Own Way. These men do not let anger control them. It shows up in the things that they say and in how they say them.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Dontgetit

Why do you guys have issues with men who have extremely traumatized by every woman they encountered? Men like that ain’t gonna be talking peaceful about women and will come off as incels. They might be a little incoherent and defensive. Instead of shunning these men and rejecting them, why not talk to these men one on one? I’m just asking questions. I’m 42 years old and old
school. I actually believe in helping people who
have been damaged. I’m not seeing that here and I’ve been a lurker for a long time. I’ve also
noticed the same trend on other sites that claim to help damaged men.

I been here a long time too, and I don't agree. Anyone honestly asking for help here has guys lining up with the best advice they got. Did a few honest guys who acted like trolls get hammered? No doubt they did, but most of those bashed were trolls and deserved everything they got.

Originally Posted by Dontgetit

Why do you guys have issues with men who have extremely traumatized by every woman they encountered? Men like that ain’t gonna be talking peaceful about women and will come off as incels. They might be a little incoherent and defensive. Instead of shunning these men and rejecting them, why not talk to these men one on one? I’m just asking questions. I’m 42 years old and old
school. I actually believe in helping people who
have been damaged. I’m not seeing that here and I’ve been a lurker for a long time. I’ve also
noticed the same trend on other sites that claim to help damaged men.

That's BS, a recent post (by Unboxxed) answering a suicidal thread, told the poster to get professional help at a suicide prevention hotline. Myself, being a mod on another site, that's standard practice, we'll even provide a number or website better suited to help.

As far as letting someone use the site for their emotional tampon or psychoses relief valve, it won't be tolerated. This is a site for evolved red pill men that made the necessary adjustments to life past the anger and humiliation of deception. Allot of LT MGTOWS congregate here. We're a good fella's club, not a professional psycho ward where mental illness is treated in any way shape or form, that's a journey for the individual to embark on, and this is not the embarkation point for that level of instability.

My 2 cents.

Nah, you guys banished me three times for just speaking my mind. I’ve been traumatized by women since the age of 8 years old and now I’m 42. I have severe mental problems because of it. I was abused by women in the mental health system when I was a minor, so I don’t trust shrinks.

So excuse me for not having pleasant things to say about women kind of smiling when they get murdered. Women have done far worst things to me than talk about harming or smiling when men get killed.

Originally Posted by Dontgetit

Instead of shunning these men and rejecting them, why not talk to these men one on one? I’m just asking questions.

Haven't we had a thread recently about women seeking "closure"? This dude is doing the exact same thing.

What makes you think I am doing the same thing. You’re assuming things instead of asking me directly. Feminists do the same thing

I have a tendency to treat people like they are stupid. I’ve been proven right about everything and it has given a God Complex. I’m working on it.

@unboxxed
Incels are extremely angry, because society rejects them. Have you guys ever thought about that?

@Mr. Wombat

I’m kind of like Bam. I’ve been reading his post. That’s they type of MGTOW I miss and the type of MGTOW I’m use to.

@Mr. Wombat.

Women make it perfectly clear to me that they hate me. They made it perfectly clear that we are enemies. I’m not Jesus. I hate my enemy

Originally Posted by dontgetit

I have a tendency to treat people like they are stupid. I’ve been proven right about everything and it has given a God Complex. I’m working on it.

You have a tendency to act like you don't get the basic fundamentals. I see this in the questions you ask and the things that you say. This makes YOU look like the stupid one. For instance:

Originally Posted by dontgetit

@unboxxed
Incels are extremely angry, because society rejects them. Have you guys ever thought about that?

I can't believe you need to ask that, unless you are a bit slow. What the hell do you think?


I notice you have switched the conversation from talking about us and our motives, to talking about yourself.

What is your point in coming to us at this time? Are you lonely for conversation? If you want to enjoy hating women, go somewhere else. The web is wide.

I believe you have what you need from us. If you drag this out with ramblings, I'll just end this.

Originally Posted by Dontgetit

I have severe mental problems because of it.

What are you doing about that? Do not use our site in lieu of getting professional help. I will not assist in keeping you from getting such help by indulging your issues here. I will end this.

Originally Posted by Dontgetit

Nah, you guys banished me three times for just speaking my mind.

Speaking your (coarse) mind may have exactly been the issue, I now wonder. What was your registered username when you were a member here?

@unboxxed.

Thanks for confirming what I thought about men rights groups, MGTOW, and etc. It’s not for me. You guys are just like toxic women.

No hard feelings. I don’t get along with other humans. That’s why I work a lot of hours and play PC games. I wanted to feel normal, so I tried dating and relationships. That crap made my severe mental illness worst .

I apologize for seeming like dick. I have zero communication skills and can’t really relate to people unless it is work, pc gaming, or fitness related.

I tried to communicate on here as a guy named Insurgency.

I was in and out of hospitals and mental institutions since the age of 3. Cut me some slack. I literally can’t communicate with people. I had to get my job and through an occupational program.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

@unboxxed.

Thanks for confirming what I thought about men rights groups, MGTOW, and etc. It’s not for me. You guys are just like toxic women.

No hard feelings. I don’t get along with other humans. That’s why I work a lot of hours and play PC games. I wanted to feel normal, so I tried dating and relationships. That crap made my severe mental illness worst .

I apologize for seeming like dick. I have zero communication skills and can’t really relate to people unless it is work, pc gaming, or fitness related.

I tried to communicate on here as a guy named Insurgency.

I was in and out of hospitals and mental institutions since the age of 3. Cut me some slack. I literally can’t communicate with people. I had to get my job and through an occupational program.

We show member Insurgency signed on Aug 30, 2021 and was banned Sept 17, 2021 for advocating violence:

https://www.goingyourownway.com/mgto...urgency-14633/

We have no record of any additional bans for this member. Only one time.

Apology accepted, and I will cut you slack, but just not as a member of this site. In fact, I do feel bad for you, if you will permit me that. From what you say here, you have had a horrendous life. I am sorry of your ongoing mental illness and I infer that you are managing you life with it, struggle that it is. You don't say if you are currently availing yourself of counseling and other assistance outside of hospitals and mental-institutions.

I literally can’t communicate with people.

If that was literally true, you and I would not be communicating, would we? Perhaps you mean that you cannot communicate effectively or productively or not without a lot of back and forth?

I would agree with your own words that you are not currently compatible with men/groups who do not wish violence towards women. As long as you wish for that, you will have additional problems.

Do you have a sponsor, social worker, or caretaker?

I make $60,000 a year and I’m independent. My only problem is with people. I never learned effective communication. I can do everything else in life accept for effectively communicate and interact with people. That is why I alway come off as being inappropriate. I have no friends and never really had friends. I’m socially isolated. I’m about as socially awkward as Chris Chan, accept I’m extremely physically fit.

I infer by your use of "independent" you do not have have a sponsor, social worker, or caretaker.

Fair enough, but if you want future/ongoing slack for your past trauma, that tells me that you want to remain ineffective at communication, broken as you say you currently are.

Or, try to improve yourself. You've been dealt a bad hand, but try to improve your communication. Such improvement rests squarely on your shoulders to perform and on no one else's shoulders. Fair or not, it's all on you.

Like most people, I was not born with a smooth way of getting along. I've taken night classes in interpersonal communication to improve the same types of obstacles in myself that I think you have. You don't have to have friends to take these classes. You just have to sign up, attend, and participate. I don't think you will be alone there.

I had no idea that interpersonal classes existed. No one told me any of that. Thank you. I will look into it.

My family was from the deep south, and moved to Los Angeles. They didn’t even know how get proper help for me. I also grew up in South Central Los Angeles during the 1980s to mid 1990s as a Black kid. I had severe asthma as child (later on I found it wasn’t asthma. I had under developed lungs because of Idiopathic central hypogonadism) Oh and speaking of idiopathic central hypogonadism, the idiots in LAUSD thought I had Klinefelter syndrome without running a chromosome test or taking note that I was an average height for my age.

Oh and I didn’t get tanner stage 3 puberty until. I found that on my own with my own freaking PPO that I obtained from working a union skilled manufacturing job. I get easily irritated and feel like punching someone when they treat me like the R word. I’m extremely physically fit and participate in MMA. I started that at the age of 40 for a reason. I couldn’t do it when I was younger. l’ve been a few fights and because of my temper, how I’ve been treated by society, and etc.
I was 40. I had the body of an overweight child until the age of freaking 40. I got a right to be bitter

Originally Posted by dontgetit

I had no idea that interpersonal classes existed. No one told me any of that. Thank you. I will look into it.

Grab a schedule for your local community college and read through the course offerings. That's how I did it. No one told me, either.

You have seven other posts that I did not let through as they seem to recap things you have already said.

I think we understand you and you understand us.

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