Thread: hello, do i belong here?

Hello,

I registered pink.wings but realized I might want to post here first.

I'm wondering if this is somewhere I might be able to hang out. I was assigned male at birth, genitals mutilated at birth, collectively punished in elementary school for the sins of "all men" right beside you guys, rape trained in high school and college, labeled a "bathroom rapist" by feminists, labeled an "incel" by the feminsts who oppose the feminists who called me a "bathroom rapist", and so on and so forth. I'm a dude who takes estrogen, more or less. I could have been a woman, if feminists hadn't completely excuded me, then turned around and blamed the exclusion on me, because I failed know my role and get a girlfriend. Well fuck them! Not everybody is fucking attracted to women!

I have not had many great experiences with "wombyns," and by not many I mean zero. However I can confirm that wombyns do indeed chase that which is unattainable to them, since given that I have zero interest in sex with them, they of course can't keep their hands to themselves. Finally to add insult to injury, all feminists can agree that when a wombyn gropes me, it's not sexual assault, because I am "really" a man and therefore owe wombyns who sexually assault me further sexual favors, lest I be called mean things like "incel" and "misogynerd" and such.

I have a long and bad history with the wombyns. I am sick of them. I don't know why I need estrogen, I just do. I'm not a neurologist. Gender is in the eye of the beholder anyway. I just accept whatever gender people want to give me. Usually I am gendered female, and this is fine. Sometimes I'm gendered male. Maybe it is better that way. Wombyns can sexually identify as female and go on their gold-digging sex adventures if that's what they want. I earn my keep by being damned good at what I do, which is an in-demand skill. It's way better than hoping for prince charming to start existing, and then hope that he agrees that it's his place to be my personal servant and fork over half his wealth for the privilege of being in my presence. But the biological facts of my existence don't change. Call it a birth defect or what ever. I don't care. Use whatever words, the biological facts don't change. I have a dick, and I need estrogen.

I am looking for some way to heal from all the shit wombyns have thrown at me. I've spent some time in counseling, and I think there is nothing more that wombyns and their male feminist sycophant coworkers have to offer me. They simply do not understand that I'm not attracted to women, do not need sex from women, and I frankly think bourgeois feminism is a hilarious, sick pile of contradictions ready to implode.

I like hanging out with guys, always have. I'm attracted to guys, but not everything needs to be sex. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I get sex whenever I want, though now that my hair is turning grey I just haven't wanted sex much. I would rather have friendship. I admit to being cynical: I wish I could solve hunger by rubbing my belly.

I've yet to meet a wombyn who shares any of my hobbies. I like programming, but I'm haunted by how wombyns demand that I be their personal tutor, and it blows me away how dismissive they are of the fact that it's my years and years of experience that make me a good programmer, and they call me a misogynist because I can't condense a career full of expeirence into a few weekly training sessions, all so they can find their menstrual programmers, who they assure me are incapable of bugs. After all, according to the feminists, it's a conspiracy of half the planet's population preventing them from buying a $150 laptop and running through a Linux from Scratch. Of course they believe that my recommendation based on how valuable an experience Linux from Scratch was for me, is just me being part of the all men conspiracy. I have PTSD around this. I was abused for about 14-ish years recently before I was finally able to quit that damned job and get away from the constant sexual harassment. I want to do more hobby programming. I need to overcome this. Programming makes me happy, and if I can't hobby program, I can't be happy.

I'm also interested in hiking, camping and backpacking, though I admit I have not done much in that area. I don't get outside enough. Maybe I'm more interested in programming, but I like road trips, and it seems like I could build that into road trips to trailheads. I want to go camping in the middle of nowhere, get stoned out of my mind, and contemplate the milky way and the vastness of the universe.

I get high too often, though. It shouldn't be an every day thing. The experience of being high is just better if it's not an every day thing. The feminists fucked me over, fucked me sideways, then fucked me a few more times for good measure, and addiction is the only way I know how to deal with it I guess.

What do you guys think? Will I fit in here? Should I move on and keep looking for the right kind of wombyn-free space?

Originally Posted by sortof.pink.wings

Hello,

I registered pink.wings but realized I might want to post here first.

I'm wondering if this is somewhere I might be able to hang out. I was assigned male at birth, genitals mutilated at birth, collectively punished in elementary school for the sins of "all men" right beside you guys, rape trained in high school and college, labeled a "bathroom rapist" by feminists, labeled an "incel" by the feminsts who oppose the feminists who called me a "bathroom rapist", and so on and so forth. I'm a dude who takes estrogen, more or less. I could have been a woman, if feminists hadn't completely excuded me, then turned around and blamed the exclusion on me, because I failed know my role and get a girlfriend. Well fuck them! Not everybody is fucking attracted to women!

I have not had many great experiences with "wombyns," and by not many I mean zero. However I can confirm that wombyns do indeed chase that which is unattainable to them, since given that I have zero interest in sex with them, they of course can't keep their hands to themselves. Finally to add insult to injury, all feminists can agree that when a wombyn gropes me, it's not sexual assault, because I am "really" a man and therefore owe wombyns who sexually assault me further sexual favors, lest I be called mean things like "incel" and "misogynerd" and such.

I have a long and bad history with the wombyns. I am sick of them. I don't know why I need estrogen, I just do. I'm not a neurologist. Gender is in the eye of the beholder anyway. I just accept whatever gender people want to give me. Usually I am gendered female, and this is fine. Sometimes I'm gendered male. Maybe it is better that way. Wombyns can sexually identify as female and go on their gold-digging sex adventures if that's what they want. I earn my keep by being damned good at what I do, which is an in-demand skill. It's way better than hoping for prince charming to start existing, and then hope that he agrees that it's his place to be my personal servant and fork over half his wealth for the privilege of being in my presence. But the biological facts of my existence don't change. Call it a birth defect or what ever. I don't care. Use whatever words, the biological facts don't change. I have a dick, and I need estrogen.

I am looking for some way to heal from all the shit wombyns have thrown at me. I've spent some time in counseling, and I think there is nothing more that wombyns and their male feminist sycophant coworkers have to offer me. They simply do not understand that I'm not attracted to women, do not need sex from women, and I frankly think bourgeois feminism is a hilarious, sick pile of contradictions ready to implode.

I like hanging out with guys, always have. I'm attracted to guys, but not everything needs to be sex. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I get sex whenever I want, though now that my hair is turning grey I just haven't wanted sex much. I would rather have friendship. I admit to being cynical: I wish I could solve hunger by rubbing my belly.

I've yet to meet a wombyn who shares any of my hobbies. I like programming, but I'm haunted by how wombyns demand that I be their personal tutor, and it blows me away how dismissive they are of the fact that it's my years and years of experience that make me a good programmer, and they call me a misogynist because I can't condense a career full of expeirence into a few weekly training sessions, all so they can find their menstrual programmers, who they assure me are incapable of bugs. After all, according to the feminists, it's a conspiracy of half the planet's population preventing them from buying a $150 laptop and running through a Linux from Scratch. Of course they believe that my recommendation based on how valuable an experience Linux from Scratch was for me, is just me being part of the all men conspiracy. I have PTSD around this. I was abused for about 14-ish years recently before I was finally able to quit that damned job and get away from the constant sexual harassment. I want to do more hobby programming. I need to overcome this. Programming makes me happy, and if I can't hobby program, I can't be happy.

I'm also interested in hiking, camping and backpacking, though I admit I have not done much in that area. I don't get outside enough. Maybe I'm more interested in programming, but I like road trips, and it seems like I could build that into road trips to trailheads. I want to go camping in the middle of nowhere, get stoned out of my mind, and contemplate the milky way and the vastness of the universe.

I get high too often, though. It shouldn't be an every day thing. The experience of being high is just better if it's not an every day thing. The feminists fucked me over, fucked me sideways, then fucked me a few more times for good measure, and addiction is the only way I know how to deal with it I guess.

What do you guys think? Will I fit in here? Should I move on and keep looking for the right kind of wombyn-free space?

Hi pink.wings,

Thank you for explaining your situation. Your story started off with "genitals mutilated at birth" and, because that phrase in other circumstances usually means something horrific, it colored the rest of my interpretation of your post. I had to step away from the site and go do something else, to think about all that you said. Then return, with my Admin hat firmly in place, and separate out what is relevant to us while still having compassion for all that you wrote.

With respect to what happened at your birth, I am not going to ask you or need you to elaborate because, really, while being born male is a requirement here, having your male organ be functional is not a requirement. Guys have ED, for instance. You also wrote that you can get sex whenever you want and that you have a dick. Alrighty then. I'll not amplify this by placing any further focus on it.

I am looking at how you present yourself. As you state, you are usually gendered female. You take estrogen, apparently by choice, as you say you don't know why you need it, so I infer a doctor's reasoning is not involved. You indicate that you could have been a woman if feminists had accepted you, and for you to make that statement implies to me that this is something you would have liked to have achieved.

A member's choice of username, pink.wings, is also useful in understanding how a member want to be perceived.

What started out as a horrific tale to me now distills out to be a simpler response.

All in all, while your treatment by women has its overlap with stories told by MGTOW, this is not enough. Blue pill and purple pill men, for instance, also have similar stories as MGTOW but they cannot be here. It is how men proceed in these circumstances, or in literal spite of them, that is the relevant distinction to us. We exclude blue pill, purple pill, women, male feminists, and, relevantly, men who want to be women.

For instance, in spite of all of his male history, Bruce Jenner could not be a member of this site.

I'm going to close your account. I respect your honesty and candor.

Thank you.

And a horrific tale it is. What I could understand of it anyway. It's way outside the experience of anything I ever saw.

pink wings, while backpacking can be done by beginner's, it's more of an advanced skill. But it's quite possible to get to the middle of nowhere by car. You can hike if you like but it's not necessary. At least in the American west you can. You won't be able to go where no one else has ever been, but you couldn't do that backpacking either. In the lower 48, there's no place where no one has ever visited. But there are a million campsites out there where there's no one around for miles.

I get that one might seek a place they can feel comfort in, but this reeks of the nerdy kid at school trying to find where he fits.

Dear sortof.pink.wings,

Your story, like others have said is indeed horrific. If true (and that’s a BIG IF at this stage) I genuinely feel for your plight.

This said, and I truly mean it, there is this statement:

Originally Posted by sortof.pink.wings

Gender is in the eye of the beholder anyway.

Nope.

Not at all.

With a VERY few exceptions such as hermaphroditism, gender is a matter of biology.

You say you have a dick? Then you're a male. Don't go trying to fuck with our heads, it won't work.

Yes this is a, how do you phrase it? a "wombyn" free site, but more than that it's a red-pill site.

The red-pill means seeing the truth however unpalatable and the truth is men are men however much they wish to convince the world that they're actually women or "gender fluid".

My obervation on your postings can summed up in one word:

TROLL!

You say you have a cock but wanna act dress like a female? WTF? Get outta here I don't subscribe to people wanting me to play along with a Disney Land fantasy! I live in real world reality...