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    Are incels red pill?

    Ok I know gyow is supposed to be people who have swore off women. Let's say your celebrity crush or unicorn wanted to get with you in a relationship. What would you do?

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    Ok I know gyow is supposed to be people who have swore off women. Let's say your celebrity crush or unicorn wanted to get with you in a relationship. What would you do?
    Your thread title asks about incels, the term for involuntary celibates. We do not allow incels on this site. We are MGTOW who voluntarily choose to swear off emotional relationships with women. Women are still useful for uncommitted sex, for those MGTOW who choose this.

    So, with that difference cleared up, you have come here to ask us MGTOW to know the minds of incels. It is better that you go ask them yourself. We don't care.

    But, to help you along, when men register here and present their story, if they do not make it clear who they are and where they stand, then I ask them two questions, and what you might seek to know from us is my question number two:

    1) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

    2) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?

    We disallow membership to men who cannot unequivocally say NO to both questions. I expect an incel would say YES to one or both.
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Well to be honest I am kind of very confused when it comes to this. I know women are mainly trouble and can be a burden. Women have done nothing but disappoint me my whole life. Do I still have romantic feelings toward them? Yes at times I do. Let's say Emma Watson or Jessica Alba or some other beautiful celeb magically wanted to begin a relationship with me. Would I be wrong to try this? What is your opinion on this?

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    Well to be honest I am kind of very confused when it comes to this. I know women are mainly trouble and can be a burden. Women have done nothing but disappoint me my whole life. Do I still have romantic feelings toward them? Yes at times I do. Let's say Emma Watson or Jessica Alba or some other beautiful celeb magically wanted to begin a relationship with me. Would I be wrong to try this? What is your opinion on this?
    You picked two women who have gone on record as misandrist. Man, you sure know how to deny reality.

    But, the main point is, you acknowledge women are trouble in the real world so you switch over to indulge your fantasy about two women whom you know nothing about except you like their make-up faces, and then you present this pretend scenario to me for comment.

    What am I supposed to say, that in a world you fabricate, things would be different?

    Can you see that I stay grounded while you do not? That's your problem right there.

    Your question to me, is, would you be wrong to try a magical situation.

    We spend all of our time here trying to undo the magical thinking that men have.

    Make your life's decisions based on how women are, not on how you dream them to be. A psychiatrist would not help you live in your dream world at the expense of real life, and neither will I.
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Looking for incels?

    Try the Married Man Store, down the street, around the corner, tell'em Tower sent you.
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    To follow on from others' comments; it is best to avoid hypothetical questions not based in reality. Its a form of fantasy that adults are encouraged to do. Only ask questions that its worth knowing the answer to.

    Its surprisingly painful at first, ripping of the plaster of fantasy, but life becomes so much simpler. A lot of decisions become straight forward and you can focus your time, money and effort on achieving realistic goals. Life becomes better in the long term.

    Unicorns don't exist, so don't concern yourself about what you'd do if you found one. Its as much if not more a waste of time as wondering what you'd do if you won the lottery.

    P.S. I have to say, Emma Watson? She is openly vile and not even that attractive. If you must fantasise, aim higher than that.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    To follow on from others' comments; it is best to avoid hypothetical questions not based in reality. Its a form of fantasy that adults are encouraged to do. Only ask questions that its worth knowing the answer to.

    Its surprisingly painful at first, ripping of the plaster of fantasy, but life becomes so much simpler. A lot of decisions become straight forward and you can focus your time, money and effort on achieving realistic goals. Life becomes better in the long term.

    Unicorns don't exist, so don't concern yourself about what you'd do if you found one. Its as much if not more a waste of time as wondering what you'd do if you won the lottery.

    P.S. I have to say, Emma Watson? She is openly vile and not even that attractive. If you must fantasise, aim higher than that.
    Good point! Hypothetical questioning can create an insufferable Riddler that has a theory on everything, stick with instincts, natural law, man's law, and the wisdom to know the conflicts between the two, and stay clear of the arc flash when the two collide! That's where all the suffering is done!

    It's not a theory on any level whatsoever, it's REALITY!

    Every day more and more hive minded laws are put in place, enjoining us to a beast of burden we did not create, causing us to become non compliant and out of place, a place that defies natural law and spits in our face.

    Men, "real men", not "hypothetical men", have no desire to partake in this grand illusion of hive happiness and bliss, where nothing is further from reality, contrary to natural law, and aggressively bias to our instincts.
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    I don't have crushes anymore.

    Incels are just spineless twats who believe they need women. They fail to see that women wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Let's say Emma Watson or Jessica Alba or some other beautiful celeb magically wanted to begin a relationship with me
    Well, if in that fantasy land, I shoot lightning from my finger tips, breathe fire to melt steel, can bend and move things by telekinesis, can teleport to any point in space and time, unaffected by radiation and stuff in space..... then yeah maybe... MAYBE...

    but on second thought... I'd rather go do much more interesting things with those kinds of powers !!!
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I don't have crushes anymore.

    Incels are just spineless twats who believe they need women. They fail to see that women wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
    Not if they piss gasoline! Then you can count on it!
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    What the...
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    Ok I know gyow is supposed to be people who have swore off women. Let's say your celebrity crush or unicorn wanted to get with you in a relationship. What would you do?
    Some InCels are. Their philosophy is black pill meaning that they are born not to be able to get laid. In fact only 10-15% of all men are sexual desired by women.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    In fact only 10-15% of all men are sexual desired by women.
    What complete and utter bullshit. It really irritates me when adults quote stats like this. Where are you getting this shit from? I suspect internet dating sites like Tinder.

    This is NOT the real world. Given the choice any blue-piller (male or female) on a dating site will select the profile that most closely describes their ‘perfect partner’ and usually how the person looks is high on that agenda.

    I know it’s difficult at the moment but take your head out of the computer screen and have a look around you in the real world; it’s nothing like what you are being led to believe on-line.

    Women look for lots of different things in a prospective partner: yes some are driven by looks but others are driven by money or status or security or any number of other things.

    But the one thing they all crave is cock! Big cocks, little cocks, thin cocks, thick cocks – they want to try them all!

    Yeah sure they’ll settle down with the idiot (simp) that’ll have them, but behind the scenes they’re shagging everything they can get away with. I’ll even give them the benefit of the doubt that initially some of them intend to live the life they swear to at the altar, but eventually their true colours show. THEY WANT COCK! In every shape and form. I know. I’ve been hit on by so many married women I’ve lost count.

    So some have standards (for example: no street urchins, or no junkies). So what? We all have standards in life in who we associate with.

    With regards the O.P. I have one word – NO!

    To be brutally honest, being one of insufficient means (poor as fuck) I might be tempted, but only for a few minutes at most. I may not have much, but I have my integrity.

    I value my independence more than ANYTHING any woman has to offer.

    Is that clear enough?

    Good question though.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    I agree. The question seems to have little to no bearing on the thread title. But these things happen.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

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    Ok I know gyow is supposed to be people who have swore off women. Let's say your celebrity crush or unicorn wanted to get with you in a relationship. What would you do?
    Incels are blue pill, so are PUAS for that matter.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    I was always really cynical about women and people in general for that matter. The more I awakened over time the more I realized that the modern woman has nothing to give in terms of love and relationships. So for me it is easy, once what remained of idealistic thoughts about women left me, I knew that relationships were futile.

    In short I don't even look at women desiring sex anymore let alone wanting more than that.

    To answer the question in thread title. Incels are Blue Pill as they crave relationships and attention from women which they for various reasons aren't getting. This makes them angry. To be angry about women (or lack of women) is not MGTOW at all.

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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles1999 View Post
    Incels are blue pill, so are PUAS for that matter.
    Strictly speaking this is incorrect. Being an incel, or a PUA, does not denote one's understanding of reality (degree of red pill awareness). It's possible to be completely red pilled but still an incel (can't get laid), or choose the lifestyle of a PUA. But yes in these 'groups' you will mostly find very blue pilled men.
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    Re: Are incels red pill?

    Are incels Red Pilled? No, because it takes a degree of insight to choose to walk away that an incel by definition does not possess by virtue of the fact they call themselves Involuntary Celibates.
    To me that makes them blue pilled and willing participants - if they were to be accepted by the female. Blind to the nature that MGTOW walks away from - thus Red Pilled.

    MGTOW eyes are open.
    Incel eyes are closed.


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