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    Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Full disclosure: this is the second time I'm reapplying. You guys allowed me back in after Thomas Covenant retired after his ban of me and I don't remember what that was about. This was in 2017. Now that Unboxxed is gone, I am asking the same.

    I'm a daily reader of this forum and appreciated your participation in my last "Opposing voices" thread. I had NO IDEA that Unboxxed would be gone when I made my last thread. but talking about some of the important things in life like Indian food or Italian food, especially from a fellow Irish blooded guy (though I am 3rd generation in America, DC area raised, Phoenix is my relocated home of two decades with the exception of 3 years)

    Me and MGTOWer had a disagreement or two but agree on a lot of the same things. But I should have been way the hell more laid back during this application process considering that he came from MGTOW.com, which let him in many other members down. I lived in Massachusetts at a boarding school for two years, so I know all about what Worcester is like since my boarding school was in between Worcester and Springfield literally. I agree with a lot of what he says and sometimes he goes more red pill than me on some things and I like that!

    I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence and inadvertently sound like I'm patronizing or anything. I'm just speaking into my phone and this is what's coming out onto the page.

    I used to make some that s*** harsh post under the influence of alcohol and I still drink but I'm getting over that sort of mentality and I think that this world needs more places like these. But it's not politically correct so it's not going to happen.

    Even though unboxed booted me and you guys didn't exactly opposed that, I would love to be back here if given the chance. I've mellowed out on some disagreements with some MGTOW things such as sex dolls (I would never use one but I'm not going to shame anyone else for talking about it like I used to anymore here.. not that it's ever brought up anymore...But, it beats being a sucker for some wife who doesn't even like you!)

    I hope you consider this application to your forum. but if you reject it then I will still be a faithful reader of this place because you guys are the only people speaking my damn language nowadays. And we all vAry on how we're individuals hence the "your OWN way" PART OF THE ACRONYM IS TRUE!!

    Sincerely,
    Matt

    PS---if you guys or Jagr say no, it's not going to break or dent my spirit. But if you do say yes, it will certainly lift mine to a higher place. Thank you for the great posting over the last few years either way. (Hope that didn"t sound ingratiatingly, because I am absolutely sincere).

    Rock on, either way, fellow red pill brothers



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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered Ace Francis View Post
    Even though unboxed booted me
    Hi Ace,

    Actually, your first perma-ban was July 4th, 2017 by Thomas Covenant, you once wrote. I was not a Mod at that time. In June 2018 you registered as Ace Francis2, asking to come back. We took you back. Sirreaper restored your account as Ace Francis.

    I temp-banned you for 7 days in March 2019 for insulting other members. No sooner did you return from that ban then you started up again. I seem to recall that I was the mod on duty who had to take action on you at that time, then you requested a self-ban and I tried to play the Good Cop somewhat but it was Wombat who stepped in and perma-banned you for the second time, in April 2019. So, I was not the actual one who booted you:

    https://www.goingyourownway.com/mgto...ese-ban-12209/

    Your apparent drinking was a big problem all along. You insulted other members. You insulted mods. You insulted newbies in their Intro threads and were the reason that several of them abandoned their Intro and walked away. There was no telling when you would go off on someone. You could not civilly disagree with someone. You caused me a lot of unnecessary work in damage control. Keeping you here made it harder to enforce the Principles to others when everybody could see what was going on.

    You were given plenty of chances before each perma-ban and you abused them all. Many chances were not formalized with warnings or bans and only reside in the memories of those who were here.

    So, it sounds like I'm going to say HELL NO to your request? Actually, I could be okay with your return, but I'm going to leave the decision up to the Mod who last banned you. That would be Mr Wombat. If he sees this thread, then he can let me know what he thinks. Sirreaper is the other Mod here nowadays. He may or may not weigh in. If SR intervenes to say NO, his opinion must be respected. Jagr shows up occasionally. If he sees this thread and weighs in to say NO, then it's NO.

    I'm not mad at you, but if you come back you will be on a short leash with me. If you test me on this, I will simply bounce you out of here as dispassionately as I would ban any other newbie. With no ill will, just bye-bye birdie. There will be no enabling you this time around with giving chance after chance. I will not allow myself to go through that again. I repeat, I'm not mad at you here. I am just stating things very plainly. As I am often the only Mod on duty, all Mods reading this should understand that I do not expect your re-establishment of longevity here to insulate you from me summarily banning you for cause.

    Ok, I guess that's enough admonishments.

    If Wombat gives the nod, and if SR and Jagr do not first say NO, I'll reinstate you. If you stay civil like this post you made here, then you and we will have a great time.

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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Ace was one of the first who replied to my intro back then when I signed up so yeah it would be great to have him back. IMHO it's a fair proposal you did Unboxxed. Lets see what Mr. Wombat will decide. I remember Thomas Covenant. He's a great guy and I hope he's doing fine. Ive never heard from Thomas again. Lot's of people dropped out or were banned during my stay here, do you guys remember Alik? He's a funny guy and I miss him somehow.
    Well let's see what happens. I hope for a positive outcome.
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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Ace was a total asshole to me. He comes here like he is some kind of forgotten legend or something. Why don't you join Facebook Mgtow groups like I have. I have given up trying to be a member of this site because the payoff is simply not worth the effort to try to be a member.

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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ace was a total asshole to me. He comes here like he is some kind of forgotten legend or something. Why don't you join Facebook Mgtow groups like I have. I have given up trying to be a member of this site because the payoff is simply not worth the effort to try to be a member.
    Given up? How many times have you tried?

    So, you are on FB MGTOW while Ace is not, and you were not ever on our site, it appears.

    Where, then, were both you and Ace ever together for him to be able to treat you the way you describe, and yet you want him back with you?
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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ace was a total asshole to me. He comes here like he is some kind of forgotten legend or something. Why don't you join Facebook Mgtow groups like I have. I have given up trying to be a member of this site because the payoff is simply not worth the effort to try to be a member.
    What payoff are you looking for? Do you wish to be worshipped?

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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    I like you Ace. We've had our differences but nothing personal.

    Forgive me if Im mistaken but didn't you request a self ban?

    It's not up to me but I vote NO. You have been given chance after chance. Im no angel as I've been temp banned a few times but I discussed it with the mods in PM professionally and cleaned up my act. How many chances do you expect? Ace was a good poster when he wasn't going ballistic but its just too much for mods to babysit someone.

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    Re: Ace Francis would like to reapply

    Does Ace deserve another chance? Probably not, but I'd vote for one anyway. He did the place a lot a good when he wasn't going nuts. I don't see any harm, it would be easy enough to boot his ass out again if he don't mind his manners.
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