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    Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Hello, everyone. I've been lurking these forums for a bit and thought it was time to jump in.

    I'm a 27 year old man, starting a new chapter in my life.

    I've always been fairly red-pilled on women, in what I believe to be a healthy way. Raised in a fairly right-wing and religious household, the value of positive male leadership, and the responsibility of doing so, was instilled in me. My background with women is nothing especially noteworthy. One relationship through high school, plus a few on and off hookups.

    I met someone who I thought was the love of my life in college, and we had been together for 7 years. For the majority of that time, things had been good. Looking back, I'm sure there are a few red flags in there. Things were solid, though, especially compared to many of the horror stories I see online. She was loyal, caring, supportive, intelligent, etc etc. We moved in about 2.5 years ago (just prior to the start of the Covid Era), which is where things started to go downhill. From there the relationship almost immediately collapsed. Lots of nagging, arguments, etc, but we worked through it as best we could. Obviously covid was a huge point of contention for awhile, plus an added stress on everyone's life.

    There was improvement for awhile, we even saw a therapist (I was skeptical but results were tangible for awhile). I began making a very respectable salary, to the point where I was able to provide financial support (rent, bills, gifts, trips, fancy dates) to her while she took time off work. In addition, I cooked, cleaned, did every chore except laundry. Even then, the nagging, whining, and arguing grew out of control. It seemed like the more I gave, the angrier she became. She would instigate huge blowouts over mundane things like recycling, the type of dish detergent I would buy... you name it. Eventually it just obliterated whatever we had.

    Frankly, the entire experience has soured me. I found this forum and am joining now because I am essentially starting my life over from scratch as a bachelor, and am feeling a bit lost.

    As for me, I am an avid reader (I try to go through at least one fiction and non-fiction book every month), and fancy myself an amateur chef. I'm looking for a community where I can learn from men who have been through similar, and walked a path that I am beginning to go down myself.

    Even lurking on this forum and reading posts has been a huge source of solace for me, so I want to thank this community for that. Looking forward to being a part of the forum.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Irwin_Wolfe View Post
    Hello, everyone. I've been lurking these forums for a bit and thought it was time to jump in.

    I'm a 27 year old man, starting a new chapter in my life.

    I've always been fairly red-pilled on women, in what I believe to be a healthy way. Raised in a fairly right-wing and religious household, the value of positive male leadership, and the responsibility of doing so, was instilled in me. My background with women is nothing especially noteworthy. One relationship through high school, plus a few on and off hookups.

    I met someone who I thought was the love of my life in college, and we had been together for 7 years. For the majority of that time, things had been good. Looking back, I'm sure there are a few red flags in there. Things were solid, though, especially compared to many of the horror stories I see online. She was loyal, caring, supportive, intelligent, etc etc. We moved in about 2.5 years ago (just prior to the start of the Covid Era), which is where things started to go downhill. From there the relationship almost immediately collapsed. Lots of nagging, arguments, etc, but we worked through it as best we could. Obviously covid was a huge point of contention for awhile, plus an added stress on everyone's life.

    There was improvement for awhile, we even saw a therapist (I was skeptical but results were tangible for awhile). I began making a very respectable salary, to the point where I was able to provide financial support (rent, bills, gifts, trips, fancy dates) to her while she took time off work. In addition, I cooked, cleaned, did every chore except laundry. Even then, the nagging, whining, and arguing grew out of control. It seemed like the more I gave, the angrier she became. She would instigate huge blowouts over mundane things like recycling, the type of dish detergent I would buy... you name it. Eventually it just obliterated whatever we had.

    Frankly, the entire experience has soured me. I found this forum and am joining now because I am essentially starting my life over from scratch as a bachelor, and am feeling a bit lost.

    As for me, I am an avid reader (I try to go through at least one fiction and non-fiction book every month), and fancy myself an amateur chef. I'm looking for a community where I can learn from men who have been through similar, and walked a path that I am beginning to go down myself.

    Even lurking on this forum and reading posts has been a huge source of solace for me, so I want to thank this community for that. Looking forward to being a part of the forum.

    Thanks,

    IW

    Hi Irwin_Wolfe,

    Thank you for your Intro.

    I found this forum and am joining now because I am essentially starting my life over from scratch as a bachelor, and am feeling a bit lost.
    Hmm... respectfully, being a bit lost does not sound like the resolve of a man who is fed up with women. You seem to say you were red-pilled prior to getting involved with what was the love of your life. That's blue pill behavior. You're back to being a bachelor, but is this only a stage to experience before your next relationship?

    Let me ask you two questions to help me understand you now, please. Answer each question Yes or No:

    1) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

    2) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?


    Post your replies in this same thread.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    1) No. I've learned my lesson.
    2) No.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Irwin_Wolfe View Post
    1) No. I've learned my lesson.
    2) No.
    Well, that's resolute! You're MGTOW.

    At this time, as a new member please read our Principles by clicking on that word at the top of this page, in the black bar.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Irwin_Wolfe View Post
    In addition, I cooked, cleaned, did every chore except laundry.
    And let's not forget that "doing laundry" means "stuffing clothes into a machine and pressing a button". It ain't like she was beating the linens with rocks down at the stream.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    I found this forum and am joining now because I am essentially starting my life over from scratch as a bachelor, and am feeling a bit lost.
    Sounds like you need some goals.

    It's one of the main reasons to be in a relationship, you know. Having goals comes easily, because women tend to be a needy void and their plan for getting what they need mostly involves nagging you to do it. Working through that endless "honey, do" list is an effective substitute for thinking about where your life is going.

    So, you got no woman, the honey do list has evaporated, and you are discovering that all those life maintenance jobs take a total of a few hours a week without babes there to make it more complicated than it needs to be. Now what?

    Did you drop some passion - hobbies, a bucket list - while in the relationship? Now is a fine time to pick it up again.

    Failing that, two very worthwhile things are physical and financial fitness. Your health, and your money. Really think about where you want those to go. Where do you want to live in 10 years time? Where do you want to retire?

    (edit: you're 27. In three years time, your body will start to slow down. It really is important to develop regular exercise and good eating habits now.)

    Without babes there you give you a resentful handy every second week, you are still going to want to get laid. You might want to think about that. Maybe upgrade the wardrobe? Hit the gym?

    You will also need a social circle of some kind. You getting that through work/school? Family? Pick up a hobby? Join a bicycling group or something? All those groups are infested with women, of course, but if you can keep front and centre the memory of being berated for your choice of dishwashing liquid, you should be ok.

    You still have your whole life ahead of you. You have, in fact, the best part of your life ahead of you. A man's 20's suck - his early 40's are the best time.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Thank you, this is very wise advice!

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Sounds like you need some goals.

    You still have your whole life ahead of you. You have, in fact, the best part of your life ahead of you. A man's 20's suck - his early 40's are the best time.
    Looking back, I see truth in these words. I got a lot done in my 40's. More than any other decade.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Irwin_Wolfe View Post

    I'm a 27 year old man, starting a new chapter in my life.
    welcome young fella! i'm only briefly older than you are. happy to have you here. Us young lads are finally waking up and couldnt be more happy about that.

    Time to hit the gym, pick up on hobbies and do whatever you want - make bank and invest, focus on yourself. I did the whole thing, bang 10 to forget one, been heavy on the PUA stuff, been to PUA gatherings oversea, the more you know and see, the less you like them to be fair, there are still good ladies out there... too bad they are around the 80years of age mark. lol

    TRP and MGTOW saved my life - literally.

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    Re: Into: Young Man, here to learn and grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post

    (edit: you're 27. In three years time, your body will start to slow down. It really is important to develop regular exercise and good eating habits now.)
    TRT my friend, TRT


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