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    "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Keep an eye out for this or cases like it. In the link below, some dude had sex with his wife. The wife had Alzheimer. So the court charged him with rape. Why? Because the wife was not mental capacity to say yes to sex.

    Can a Wife With Dementia Say Yes to Sex? - Bloomberg

    If the guy loses the case, we have a legal precedent. The court basically is saying that married women needs to say yes to sex. Well, that is "Yes means yes" only it applies to married guys.

    If this dude goes to jail it is a green light to pass "Yes means yes" laws to married guys.

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    This undoubtetly will lead to more men staying away from women.
    And women in turn engaging in more sex tourism than they already do, thus exposing themselves
    as depraved hypocrites.

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    Keep it up ladies. You won't be able to give your 'ginas away before long.

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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    This is not the "Yes means yes" law. This has been the law of the land for at least 18 years, the time the accused, Henry Rayhons, was a state representative in the Iowa House of Representatives. If, as I suspect, Henry Rayhons did nothing during those 18 years to limit the legal definition of rape to actual rape, he is more responsible of this mess than the attorney general who charged him. The attorney general is only enforcing a stupid law that house representatives like Rayhons passed, then did nothing to repeal.

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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    This is not the "Yes means yes" law. This has been the law of the land for at least 18 years, the time the accused, Henry Rayhons, was a state representative in the Iowa House of Representatives. If, as I suspect, Henry Rayhons did nothing during those 18 years to limit the legal definition of rape to actual rape, he is more responsible of this mess than the attorney general who charged him. The attorney general is only enforcing a stupid law that house representatives like Rayhons passed, then did nothing to repeal.
    While I'm a huge fan of reality biting white knights in the behind, this is somewhat troubling. The courts have held that people with dementia can have episodes of lucidity during which they can do things like execute wills. Why would it be any different for consent to sex? But then, our illustrious courts have a long and storied history of rulings that should conflict with each other, but "don't" because of some artificial nuance assigned by the court.
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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    these standards only make sense when you realize that a woman's only value is her vagina.

    rape is the equivalent of chopping a man's arms and legs off and tearing his tongue out.

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    I just read as much of the article as I could stomach.

    So let me get this straight - The guy is being accused of raping his wife.

    1. She is dead and did not make the accusation herself anyway. So the victim is not the accuser?

    2. She had dementia - consent may or may not have been given.

    3. The star witness is an 85 year old nursing home roommate - who heard sexual noises. (while the article also mentions that this "her mother said Rayhons wanted sex one to two times daily, and that Donna once pointed at her crotch and said, “Henry likes this a lot.” Rayhons later told the investigator that his wife enjoyed sex whenever they had it."

    4. Nobody seems to question why the daughters were keeping a log of his activities prior to the rape accusation? - Do people consider it normal to keeps logs on each other? - That is pretty twisted to me.

    I am at a loss for words - Whether or not a crime took place is questionable, there is no common sense at work, and everyone is out to lynch the husband.

    What passes for Justice in this country is abhorrent.

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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by zero-sum View Post
    4. Nobody seems to question why the daughters were keeping a log of his activities prior to the rape accusation? - Do people consider it normal to keeps logs on each other? - That is pretty twisted to me.
    I did. As soon as I read it. I know their type. And guess what? The judge thinks they're sneaky little s**ts too. Unfortunately, they're able to use procedure and rules of evidence to their advantage and the judge's hands are tied.
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    Good point William. I guess the Minority Report "Pre-Crime" police will be here shortly. I really need to work on my early retirement plans more. ha ha

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    Let them burn like a yeast infection!

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    1. Why would anyone have sex in a NURSING HOME?

    2. This "couple" were in their 70's.

    I would think that a wife can already have her husband charged with rape just by SAYING to the authorities that she said no but he didn't listen. Laws are not really necessary in order for a wife/lover to destroy a man.





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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    You'd be astonished and appalled at the amount of hanky-panky denizens of nursing homes get up to.
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    The problem with this case is if the judge rules that a woman needs to give consent to sex, then it is only a matter of time. Sometimes politicians get their cue from the courts. If the courts say that a married woman must give consent before sex can happen, then it will be codified in law. So we might see "Yes means yes" applied to marry people.

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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    The problem with this case is if the judge rules that a woman needs to give consent to sex, then it is only a matter of time. Sometimes politicians get their cue from the courts. If the courts say that a married woman must give consent before sex can happen, then it will be codified in law. So we might see "Yes means yes" applied to marry people.
    That's what feminists have always wanted. I think it was that lunatic Dworkin who said "all sex is rape [but only if you're a woman]"
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    That's what feminists have always wanted. I think it was that lunatic Dworkin who said "all sex is rape [but only if you're a woman]"
    I wonder what the future holds. If "yes means yes" becomes that law of the land and it applies to married guys. Wow. Married men will have to fear their wives.

    Something like this has already happened in Spain. And the abuse by women is out of control. One phone call by the wife and the husband is automatically thrown in jail. Then they have to wait for their day in court. Argentina is thinking of passing similar laws. These laws assume that women never lie about rape.

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    And this is why MGTOW makes sense.
    Not all men are idiots - some are bachelors.


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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    So we might see "Yes means yes" applied to marry people.
    That wont be the final nail in the coffin for marriage. That will be a barrage with an automatic nail gun.

    Yes means yes applies everywhere? Fine ... guess what? Explicit payment means yes.

    Who would have thought that weekly uses of pro services would eventually have less aggregate risk than a gf / marriage? Crazy where we are today.
    First date: A job interview in which a slot-c tries to determine a man's financial suitability in relation to its desire for children.
    Oxytocin, more dangerous than heroin.
    I am not going to sacrifice my freedom and wealth for your ideals.
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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    You'd be astonished and appalled at the amount of hanky-panky denizens of nursing homes get up to.
    I will be in a nursing home much sooner than you, so I find myself less than appalled at the amount of sex that goes on there. I intend to do my fair share of it when and if I reach that dreaded place to wait to die. If this shocks or disgusts others, so much the better.

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    Re: "Yes means yes" for married guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    I will be in a nursing home much sooner than you, so I find myself less than appalled at the amount of sex that goes on there. I intend to do my fair share of it when and if I reach that dreaded place to wait to die. If this shocks or disgusts others, so much the better.
    Fair enough, Mike, fair enough. After all, they say that to a 90 year old guy, a 72 year old retiree is still a "hot young thing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Keep it up ladies. You won't be able to give your 'ginas away before long.

    Note to self: buy stock in fleshlights... also, buy fleshlight.
    I can see how owning and using a fleshlight can save so much trouble, hassles, and of course, money. Not to mention not having to deal with women.
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