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    The Honest (And Depressing) Reasons Why People Don't Want To Get Married Anymore

    I donít believe that we can blame the decline of happy relationships on any one societal or circumstantial change. There is an entire wave of social evolution that is flowing over us, and unfortunately, itís washing away what we have always referred to as "happy relationships."
    Women like to blame men and say they are "no longer men" and donít step up or put effort into dating anymore. Men like to blame women, saying they are "no longer women" and feel like we are in competition with each other rather than working together.

    There is so much conflict and miscommunication flying around, itís no surprise why men don't want to get married, why fewer people in general are getting (or staying) married, and even fewer people seem to consider the concept of marriage as a viable future plan.
    Lots of millennials arenít even sure if they ever want to get married or have kids. Many of these millennials are men.


    Is there a reason why men don't want to get married? Men constantly feel vilified and as though they are the reason why women are unhappy. They are made to feel like they can never be, do, or have enough to bring to the table. Some men simply do not know how to approach dating or a relationship, and given the turmoil in the landscape, never begins in the first place.
    There are certainly no excuses being made here, men, in many ways, do need to step up and BE MEN. We need to reinforce the idea of being romantic and putting real effort into dating. To make the woman in your life feel valued, and special, and cherished.
    But, hereís the problem: A lot of women donít put across the vibe that they even want a man to be romantic. I have had many a conversation with women who are completely unapproachable and closed off... who then told me they werenít intending to be that way.

    We all understand that people are walking on eggshells these days. I canít scroll through Facebook for 5 minutes without seeing a woman complaining about a guy who hit on her, or winked at her, or complimented her the wrong way in Starbucks.
    Yes, there are a lot of creeps out there, and I often publicly speak out against them, but that does not mean that all men need to be grouped together with these idiots.

    What happens is, kind, good-hearted men start to get the idea in their mind that women simply do not want to be approached or spoken to, so they sink back into the corner and leave women alone.
    In an episode of New School Romance, author Alexandra Adomaitis told me that she never gets approached by men when she leaves the house. ďMaybe itís the way Iím presenting myself,Ē she wondered. Or, maybe men just arenít approaching women anymore. But why?
    And herein lies the problem for why men don't want to get married: Men have no idea how to navigate the playing field of the modern, professional woman.
    There is complete confusion brought about when we are biologically programed to be the provider, the protector, and the pursuer, but then be submerged in an environment that tells us we are not needed to be any of those things. Perhaps, not even wanted to be any of those things.

    An environment with a high risk of divorce, a circumstance which is widely perceived to favor the woman. So, then, men will think: ďWhy even get married
    People cannot even figure out dating, let alone a relationship, let alone marriage. So, is it all just fading away? Are we descending into a free-for-all, ala the wild wild west?

    I believe that people do want to find love. They want to be adored, and cared for, and have someone they can rely on (even if they donít need it). I believe that men are men and women are women, biologically. We have different strengths and different desires ó neither is better nor worse. They are just different.
    The reason I believe this is because itís biological fact, generally speaking. I know that there are plenty of things I lack that a woman would provide me great balance for. And vice versa. I enjoy being the guy who lifts the heavy things, who carries the bags, who opens the doors. Why? Because it makes me feel like a man ó and a useful one at that.
    But women are squashing this in men with the ďI can do it myselfĒ attitude. We know you can do it yourself, but thatís not why we do it. We do it because we want to, and it makes us feel good.

    So, then, what is the solution? I think we need to make a clear separation between strength and independence in oneís individual life and in a relationship. A successful relationship is a team, and teams only win if they work together towards a common goal. In this case, a happy life.
    The great thing about teams is that each member of the team has specific talents and skills. A quarterback has different strengths than a receiver, and when the two communicate and work together seamlessly, the team wins. If the quarterback tried to throw the ball and ran down the field to catch it himself, it would never work.
    At this stage of the human condition, we are all trying to be everything. Our society is making us so individualized that itís hurting our ability to actually work together with each other. We are terrified to give up power or control in any area of life and itís causing us to be wound so tightly that we never open up to any other possibilities.

    We have to understand our differences and accept them as positives. We have to understand that "equal" does not have to mean "the same." We can love and respect each other on an equal level while understanding that we are different from each other ó and thatís what makes things work.
    If you have a puzzle, you need all of the pieces to fit together in order to create the picture. In a dance, there is a balance between partners. In a yin-yang, both sides cannot be black or white.
    The same goes for a relationship, and we are losing sight of this. Men are men, women are women, and when we work together as a team, beautiful things happen. Teams do not compete with one another, they work together in order to win.
    Itís time that we remembered that again





    ------------------This one is a bit different, written by a guy so deep into blue pill he wants a return to the 1960's. I copied the whole article over. As you can see a whole lot of things the guy just is failing to understand about the situation today.

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    Re: This one written by a guy

    Damn....he is really missing the plantation. Strange that he never mentions what whimyn do to benefit men. He glosses over the current social conditions that makes any relationship with whimyn the single greatest risk a man can undertake.

    I doubt the author has ever been through a divorce.

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    Re: This one written by a guy

    Harsh and bitter actions beget harsh and bitter reactions. Simple cause and effect. I see women have become unbearable and overwhelming as they collectively continue waging this gender war against men.

    Have a nice war, ladies, Tower out!

    Peace.

    P.S. The man shortage was not a collective action, but rather an independent individual reaction that now spans continents and decades. MGTOW is not a "movement", it's a reaction!

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    I understand for many of you going throug a divorce has been a painful experience yet I dont see divorce itself as a reason for turnin MGTOW, I mean there are so many negative sides of dealing with women that divorce basically arrives at a point where you experienced already all the other ones.

    To be forced to obey a set of rules that goes against your freedom, instinct and intelligence is the first one that comes in my mind for example when you socialize in environments that women love and demand you to attend.

    Be unable to have your proper space and peace of mind cause a vampire has to suck your time and mental energy with countless problems and drama due to their non existing logic and attendance and even when its not the case they can create drama out of thin air.

    You probably read yesterday thread about a guy forced from his wife to sell his lawnmower just cause she didnt like where it was...this is just an item of a countless lists that begins with you selling all your staff to make room for her dozens and dozens of shoes and crappy furniture.

    This is way worse than "divorce", divorce is like surgery to get rid of a cancer...sure its painful and expensive but at least fix the problem, wouldnt it be better not to get sick at all?

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    Why bother? I can take financial responsibility for a shit-tier western female, watch her put on weight and become increasingly moody and miserable (which she'll blame me for) until she inevitably cheats on me and I lose everything in divorce...or I can live free and be completely in control of my life and my finances. Tell me again, what does she bring to the table that makes her worth me and all my resources?

    This weekend I finished putting together an Aero Precision AR-10, with an awesome Vortex scope and took it to the range. Hearing that steel ring from hundreds of yards away with that powerful 308 round is one of the most beautiful sounds on Earth. It was just a little reward, since I've been working so hard lately. Normally I save and invest, or pay down my student loan. That's where 75% of my after-tax income goes, which is why my net worth is increasing faster every month and I'm well on my way to an early retirement. But every now and then I do like to treat myself, and I treat myself well.

    Imagine trying to do ANY of this while married. Now contrast that with the average married guy's lifestyle, who gets no sex and gets treated like shit, and is accumulating debt faster than he can earn because of his wife's crazy spending habits. Debt he'll still be responsible for long after she divorces him and takes the house, and has Chad move in with her. It may take him 10 years to financially recover from the divorce, and he may never retire. Why the hell would any man volunteer for this???

    On the one hand you can have a female parasite completely destroy your life, and on the other you can have money, freedom, and low stress for life. It's a very easy decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post

    This weekend I finished putting together an Aero Precision AR-10, with an awesome Vortex scope and took it to the range. Hearing that steel ring from hundreds of yards away with that powerful 308 round is one of the most beautiful sounds on Earth. .
    What kind of mags does it take? I've an RRA-made/Bushmaster-marketed one that takes FAL mags. Saved a ton on mags, as they were very cheap 15 years ago.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    What kind of mags does it take? I've an RRA-made/Bushmaster-marketed one that takes FAL mags. Saved a ton on mags, as they were very cheap 15 years ago.
    I've just got some regular AR-10 style P-Mags, 10 round and 25 round. I wanted some 20-rounders too but man they are surprisingly hard to get...

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    Re: This one written by a guy

    Haha, the author is a funny person, and like Boar said, he is way too deep into the blue pill !!!

    Men have no idea how to navigate the playing field of the modern, professional woman.
    Some of us do. The killer move is staying away from that "playing field".

    I believe that people do want to find love.
    No we dont, not anymore. We want peace and to be left alone.

    A successful relationship is a team.
    And ? Is it a good team ? A team doesnt require its members to be romantically involved with on other. A team of capable men dont need women, and definitely dont need women who are in relationship with some member.

    We can love and respect each other on an equal level while understanding that we are different from each other...
    Yeah yeah sure, the other side can have all love and respect from me, as long as they stay outta my life.
    A clever fighter not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. His victories bring him neither reputation for wisdom, nor credit for courage. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

    Sun Tzu in The Art of War
    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: This one written by a guy

    There are certainly no excuses being made here, men, in many ways, do need to step up and BE MEN.
    Why? What does "need" mean, here? I mean, whose need is it, anyway?

    I believe that people do want to find love. They want to be adored, and cared for, and have someone they can rely on (even if they don’t need it).
    Getting close, there. Can a man, in this day and age, in any respect, to any degree, rely on a woman?


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