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    The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Wanted to relay what is going on to a friend I have known for nearly a decade now. He is a friend, but he has always been blue-pilled. I suspect that may change, but unfortunately only because (like so many) he is truly hitting rock bottom over the very woman he pedestalized and idolized.
    I think we can all agree that relationships with women are toxic and useless for men these days, but there are some types of relationships that are particularly terrible and demeaning. I would submit to you that the following is high up on that list: being a 'behind the scenes' helper to your social media influencer girlfriend. You see, my friend spent the past 7 years with an "influencer", functioning as everything from her photographer, videographer, vlogger, t-shirt designer, defender in comments, de facto secretary and accountant, etc. All the shit that comes with being online. She is not super big, but enough to be pulling in 6 figures a year (he told me 250k across all revenue streams, with youtube as the biggest). "Online couples" where you see sharing their relationship on youtube are cringey and sick enough, but to be a primarily behind the scenes guy is even worse. The power structure of the relationship is absolutely flipped on its head. She owns all the assets, everything is in her name. Amongst all your friends, she will be the one seen as dominant. She is literally your boss, and you literally are always at the office. And when it ends, he has basically given up his life. I warned him time and again -- what will you do if you break up? What skills will you have? He thought he could say 'digital this' and 'marketing that'. Bullshit, he spent 7 years making sure her ass was at the right angle to get more youtube or instagram likes. No employer worth their salt sees any value in his resume. And since relationships rarely end amicably, it is almost suicide to have your entire well being in the palm of your partner hand.

    As you can surmise, they have broken up - nearly a year ago. Her youtube channel they shared profit on - but I have no idea if there was a contract. Regardless, it is irrelevant. She can move her audience easy and already has. When you have a large enough online platform, with a site, blog, ebooks etc, you start to build huge emailing lists. So you can start a new channel, advertise it heavily, and port a large portion of the audience quickly. So even if he has half of her youtube channel, its meaningless as its a dead asset. She hasnt posted there in nearly a year since they broke up. She posts daily on her secondary channel which is basically now her primary channel. Ironically, she started the secondary channel a year or so prior to the brokeup - she was laying the groundwork in my view. Also since the original channel is in her name she can delete any videos she wants and has started doing so, which reduces whatever low residual income he gets off his profit share (which he wont say whether its a written contract or not - I doubt it is). The blog, site, instagram etc - forget it; was always in her name and she whacked up some of the money with her. Maybe he could sue and argue it was an implicit contract but good luck fighting that for years with the legal fees while your life is in shambles.

    He is nothing now. I warned him. On top of the money, I said do you realize you are dating an extreme narcissist, even amongst women. No chick becomes an instagram/ YT star with their ass half handing out and bikini shots on the daily without having the worst female tendencies. There are no good answers from here. He will likely go back to a cashier as he was at nearly a decade ago. Nothing to show for 10 years of his life. She'll move on to the next thirsty simp. She already has put the screws on any money he can get out of it. To top it all off, my best advice to him is he has to be nice to her and kiss her ass - if she put even a false innuendo of any ism out there her whole audience would buy it and he'd never rise above flipping burgers again, lest he'd be canceled.

    Being in a relationship with a women these days is crazy. Being in a relationship with a woman with your life shared online is crazier. Being in a relationship with a woman where she is the social media star and you support behind the scenes is absolutely the worst. Unfortunately, MANY men do this today though.

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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Thank you for your post as I was thinking about this the other day. This is because I was wondering how do younger men deal with dating women who are active on multiple social media sites as they try to climb the crab bucket for their 15 minutes of fame?

    Personally I think if a woman is trying to become an "influencer" on multiple social media sites that is a big, big red flag. Not even PUAs who are purple pill will entertain the idea of spinning that type of plate. This is because that type of woman is not going to make you the prize and expects you to recognize her as the prize which is dumb.

    But yes it is a good lesson that men should always divert focus for themselves because that has lasting value. Lasting value that can lead to new opportunities. When you date a woman you are not going to see many doors open. A woman is a woman and nothing more..there is no mythical magic attached to them or some type of aura that grants you greater power in the business or social world as a man.

    The idea that having a woman yields you more social power is a dynamic and thinking of the old ways. The new way of building social proof is building a network of peers on your level or above your level in the professional field or a hobby you are passionate about. Actually that has always been the way but now I think it is more accepted as mainstream. Meanwhile, social proof of being in a relationship with a woman has diminished in importance.

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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    I've no experience but that must be much of what it would be like to be in a relationship with a woman who is a star singer or actress. Those seldom seem to last long and the guy always seems to ban an afterthought in everything.
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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by WheelBarrow View Post
    I've no experience but that must be much of what it would be like to be in a relationship with a woman who is a star singer or actress. Those seldom seem to last long and the guy always seems to ban an afterthought in everything.
    I agree with this. If the woman is the main earner in whatever field then good on her, but due to her hypergamous tendancies and today's feministic viewpoints men are seen as tools and nothing more.

    Relationships mean little to these people, they are just a means to an end.

    I for one am happy to cut their ends off.
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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Why would anyone date an “influencer” or “insta gram model”? Might as well date a stripper. Who would want a woman that hundreds of thousands or millions of men jerk off to? Men have done this to ourselves. We put up with shit like this and act like it’s normal. It’s accepted because she’s being free or liberated or she’s earning her keep. I don’t get the fascination with having people “like” you on the social media outlets. I’m down to one of them and about to cut it off. I don’t post on it. There are some funny memes and good quotes.

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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by MAM5150 View Post
    Why would anyone date an “influencer” or “insta gram model”? Might as well date a stripper. Who would want a woman that hundreds of thousands or millions of men jerk off to?
    Whilst I agree with this sentiment I think for many men they get a kick out of thinking along the lines of "All these people want to be with my woman but I'm the one that has her." I put this down to insecurity. Also there is the lure of money.
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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Whilst I agree with this sentiment I think for many men they get a kick out of thinking along the lines of "All these people want to be with my woman but I'm the one that has her." I put this down to insecurity. Also there is the lure of money.
    My motto was; "All these people want to be with my woman, no problem, I'll share, but I go first!".
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    My motto was; "All these people want to be with my woman, no problem, I'll share, but I go first!".
    Not in to sloppy seconds then?
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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Your buddy, didn't remember it was just his turn.

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    Re: The worst kind of relationship (a.k.a. I tried to warn my friend, now he has to deal with it)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Not in to sloppy seconds then?
    Unless she's a virgin, like it or not, you're having sloppy seconds!

    Get used to it, got used to it, walked the fuck away!

    The matriarchy is one big orgy of all things and all things considered! I wanna stick my dick in that?
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!


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