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    Re: Women want to do too much

    I bet in many cases women want to stay busy because if things get too quiet it forces them to self-contemplate, and the realities they're confronted with are disturbing.

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    If they genuinely enjoyed doing and wanting to do the things they do that would be one thing. I just get the impression they are doing it to keep up with the Jones' and for bragging rights/posting on Facebook.

    Speaking of men doing things just to keep the woman happy. I was in a burger place and a couple had their meal delivered and they were photographing the food! They both looked really excited to do it as well but I couldn't help but think how emasculate that was but then perhaps younger men are different.

    It was hilarious to watch anyway. Knowing they would post it on Facebook as if no one has ever seen a hamburger before.

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    Re: Women want to do too much

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    always an agenda with a million things to go to and see. I just wanted to crack a cold one and enjoy my vacation, wherever we were.
    Most of the vacation time was spent holding her bags during the endless shopping sprees.
    I shudder to think about having been there. This is where I say I ended my lifestyle and adopted hers. Never again.

    I was on vacation with my then-girlfriend and she wanted to go eat in the downstairs restaurant but I wasn't hungry. I just wanted to sit and drink a cool one and look out the window at the harbor. She tried so hard to get me to go with her, I was not allowed to not be hungry, I had to be with her while she ate, she wouldn't bring the food back to the room where I would be, no it had to be a specific scenario she had in her head, no punting. All for her, nothing for me except making it happen for her. We got into a huge fight and, with the windows open, I'm sure everyone else on their patios got front row seats to this.

    It's all about ending my world and living in hers.

    She ended up going alone. I ended up have a few cool ones, looking out to the harbor.
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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    I bet in many cases women want to stay busy because if things get too quiet it forces them to self-contemplate, and the realities they're confronted with are disturbing.
    I suppose it happens, but I think your giving a lot of them too much credit. Mostly it's hamster wheels spinning no matter what their doing.
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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I shudder to think about having been there. This is where I say I ended my lifestyle and adopted hers. Never again.

    I was on vacation with my then-girlfriend and she wanted to go eat in the downstairs restaurant but I wasn't hungry. I just wanted to sit and drink a cool one and look out the window at the harbor. She tried so hard to get me to go with her, I was not allowed to not be hungry, I had to be with her while she ate, she wouldn't bring the food back to the room where I would be, no it had to be a specific scenario she had in her head, no punting. All for her, nothing for me except making it happen for her. We got into a huge fight and, with the windows open, I'm sure everyone else on their patios got front row seats to this.

    It's all about ending my world and living in hers.

    She ended up going alone. I ended up have a few cool ones, looking out to the harbor.
    Oh, I learned long ago that eating in a restaurant isn't to get food into one's belly. Eating in a restaurant is supposed to be an "experience." The food aspect is only secondary.

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    I will agree that most women are like that. And i had a few i dated after my divorce that were perfect for a month or so then the mask started slipping and then i was gone.

    I have been with my current girl for just over a year, and while not a unicorn, I am only still with her as she ISNT like this. I watch for it every day to ensure if it starts i nip it in the bud. I only do what i want to do, she has the pleasure to be in my life not the other way around. Sure, i benefit from it but it is still my life she is in.

    The one time early on she went from wearing nothing/panties to bed(when she stays over) to yoga pants i told her nope, no yoga pants. Nothing more than boy shorts are allowed - and since that day nothing more than that has every been worn in bed. Same when she is here - i expect he to get comfy in boy shorts only. If it is cooler then she wears boy shorts and over the knee socks - something i find very sexy.

    We go out when i want, do what i want. If i say lets do X, please plan it she then takes it and plans it and brings it to me for approval. She pays for 50% of activities.

    It is possibly guys - but you have to really have your shit in order and be able to hold a strong frame. In short, my life is great without her, better with her as long as she doesnt change, but if she does i will just go back to my great life without her.

    She knows this. That is the beauty and power of finding happiness alone - you aren't afraid to go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    Oh, I learned long ago that eating in a restaurant isn't to get food into one's belly. Eating in a restaurant is supposed to be an "experience." The food aspect is only secondary.
    What the, is this actually a true widespread belief?

    People don't go to restaurants for the food of all things but an "experience" - you're sitting and eating, what the hell kind of experience is expected?
    I'd say people can't be that stupid, but I'd just be proven wrong lmao.

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    If they genuinely enjoyed doing and wanting to do the things they do that would be one thing. I just get the impression they are doing it to keep up with the Jones' and for bragging rights/posting on Facebook.
    I believe appearance and the upkeep of it is at the core of the female nature. Everything about the female nature is superficial, therefore to start peeling away the layers in order to glean something deep I believe troubles their soul. If you take into consideration the tremendous effort geared towards their looks and how they are perceived by others, how the major concern about the opposite sex is bounded up in the superficial, how they recoil at any attempts made to reveal something deeper, how money and provision take precedence in their world, you'd come to understand why throughout history they've always been viewed by the learned and prominent philosophers and thinkers as mere children. Women's moral code, to the extent that they have any, doesn't go beyond what is present.

    I conduct a little thought experiment with myself every time I sit across from a woman. I would sit there and look deep into her eyes every time there's a eye contact and allow myself to see if her countenance holds anything beyond what can be gleaned at an instant. I don't think I've ever met at woman whose physiognomy communicates anything deeper. Instead there's always this bottomless abyss, empty and hollow. There's nothing there...

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    I have a female friend who's like this. Feels a strong need to go to every event so she has something to talk about when people ask her what she's been up to lately. For women, what they do is largely driven by 'social belonging' and approval.

    If a week goes by and her friend asks her what she's up to and she says "Just relaxing at my apartment and reading" - that would be a WRONG and unhip answer. So women fill their time going here and there, whether they want to or not, so that they can prove on social media and to those who ask, that they have an 'interesting' life.

    Lost in all this is a sense of what they really want to be doing with their life.
    To quote Emily Bronte in Wuthering Heights, "He wanted all to lie in an ecstasy of peace; I wanted all to sparkle and dance in a glorious jubilee. I said his heaven would be only half alive; and he said mine would be drunk: I said I should fall asleep in his; and he said he could not breathe in mine."

    I take very seriously my peace of mind and my freedom, hence why the marital union is inconceivable to me. Set aside the obvious financial cost and all the other major risks known to us all, just having something of that nature be around me for any significant amount of time is detriment to my soul. I spend a major part of my day around women as it is, but I'm at least compensated for it. Women are unpeaceful. They always have to be doing something. It's very wearying...
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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk View Post
    What the, is this actually a true widespread belief?

    People don't go to restaurants for the food of all things but an "experience" - you're sitting and eating, what the hell kind of experience is expected?
    I'd say people can't be that stupid, but I'd just be proven wrong lmao.
    No, not people. Women. Women see things as experiences.

    Women don't eat lunch. They have lunch. It's the totality of the experience that they like. They don't slam down a sandwich. They luxuriate in it all.

    They are sensual creatures. Not the sexual definition here, but the other one: Given to or preoccupied with gratification of the senses. I'll go so far as to say they masturbate their senses all day everyday. LOL

    Why do they fuss with shades of meaning? Because they mine the language for every morsel that could activate a feeling. Every new twist and turn is a titillation.

    Why do they love to taste food? Why the high level of experimentation with recipes? Because they are masturbating their taste buds.

    Why so many clothes, so many shoes? The variety in this maintains a constant change of stimulation.

    Why the drama in relationships? Because they love the stimulation, even negative stimulation excites them.

    Why so much of so much?

    They are drug addicts for their senses.

    Think about this until you decide I am right. LOL
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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    I conduct a little thought experiment with myself every time I sit across from a woman. I would sit there and look deep into her eyes every time there's a eye contact and allow myself to see if her countenance holds anything beyond what can be gleaned at an instant. I don't think I've ever met at woman whose physiognomy communicates anything deeper. Instead there's always this bottomless abyss, empty and hollow. There's nothing there...
    I have done similar. Ever given a woman a compliment and they deny it, even get upset by it? I used to think that was false modesty. I later realized that the woman knows she does not live up to the compliment. I mean real compliments not just "You're hot". She knows the man is idealizing her and to be honest that is unfair because she is not perfect no matter how Blue your glasses are.

    I also realized, especially on dating sites that women have very little to talk about. It's always the same questions, "Tell me about your family, your job, what do you enjoy doing" fair questions but it never gets deeper than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    I have done similar. Ever given a woman a compliment and they deny it, even get upset by it? I used to think that was false modesty. I later realized that the woman knows she does not live up to the compliment. I mean real compliments not just "You're hot". She knows the man is idealizing her and to be honest that is unfair because she is not perfect no matter how Blue your glasses are.
    And I think that's why they hate "simps" and "nice guys" because deep down even they know they are undeserving of the niceties and the adoration showered them

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    99.9% of women have no soul. They will take take take until you are dead. There is always some other broad in her ear saying she deserves better. I spent the first 27 years of my life kissing womens asses. What do you think happened? I got shit on galore!(Looks at mgtower to chime in with his witty sense of humor).

    I cut women out of my life and life is peaceful.

    Im so sick of women shaming men but bitching we shame them. Yeah right.

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I shudder to think about having been there. This is where I say I ended my lifestyle and adopted hers. Never again.

    I was on vacation with my then-girlfriend and she wanted to go eat in the downstairs restaurant but I wasn't hungry. I just wanted to sit and drink a cool one and look out the window at the harbor. She tried so hard to get me to go with her, I was not allowed to not be hungry, I had to be with her while she ate, she wouldn't bring the food back to the room where I would be, no it had to be a specific scenario she had in her head, no punting. All for her, nothing for me except making it happen for her. We got into a huge fight and, with the windows open, I'm sure everyone else on their patios got front row seats to this.

    It's all about ending my world and living in hers.

    She ended up going alone. I ended up have a few cool ones, looking out to the harbor.
    Good for you that you didn't go. Stay and have the fight, the spoils of your victory was getting to have a cold one and chill in peace without her.

    I think the honest truth is that we live in an age steeped in female entitlement. Society tells them from the day that they're born that every thought that goes through their head, every selfish whim, is valid and important. Oppositely, it tells them that everything about men is "toxic", so obviously they are going to think that what we want and desire, and how we act is some inherent form of evil. In this moment, she didn't see you as a person that she was on a trip with, whom she needed to take into consideration. She saw you as a means to get what she wants... and nothing more. We are a service to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I suppose it happens, but I think your giving a lot of them too much credit. Mostly it's hamster wheels spinning no matter what their doing.
    What is all this "hamster wheel" stuff I keep seeing? Is it like calling them space cadets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Why so much of so much?

    They are drug addicts for their senses.

    Think about this until you decide I am right. LOL
    This is where I'm at, and I already think you're right lol. They just want more of stuff. It's completely meaningless and hollow.

    Ultimately, I would say that I think it is better to fight with them than to be one of those schmucks that just goes along with everything. I know why guys eventually cave though, because women will wear you down to a little nub. It's like those poor old guys you see that just sit in the corner at family gatherings nice and quiet like. The "yes dear" types. They eventually waved the white flag and gave in so that they could have some aspect of peace in their lives. Women have a never ending capacity to just wear you down continually until you give in.

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    "Want too much" is a nicer way to say "are greedy." When a woman makes her "love" conditional on a man providing a bunch of wealth and assets, that's greed. If she wants money, she should earn it herself instead of mooching off some man. Some would say, "But he benefits from the sexual relationship." So does she. So why the hell is he the one paying for everything?

    I would be fine living in a mobile home or a pre-fab house and wearing most clothes from Walmart. I don't need a bunch of ultra fancy stuff. It's women who want some high-end house in the suburbs in which they hire some expensive interior decorator to make it look like your home belongs pictured in some magazine. Most men don't need that crap.

    Mobile homes have a stigma about them, but I've seen a lot of really nice ones. They can be kept up well and make very nice homes.

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    wearing most clothes from Walmart. I don't need a bunch of ultra fancy stuff.
    I buy clothes at Walmart. I buy the shirts with designs on them for $5 to $10. I have gotten more compliments from random strangers on those shirts than I ever did fancy ones. I also do a lot of my food shopping there . I can spend $50 bucks and it lasts almost 2 weeks.

    I also shop at thrift stores. I love Wednesday it's half off in my area. I've gotten so much stuff there. Just got a 37 inch HDtv flat screen made in 2007 or 2008 for $20!! I only use it to watch football though. My other TV I got is an old 2004 CRT. Its my main TV for everything.

    There is nothing wrong with Walmart or thrift stores. I love em!

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    They have been sold the lie that they can have anything and be anything they want to be. Men understand compromise and consequences. Want that hot sports car? Well it's gonna cost, how much do you really want it? What else will you be missing out on to have it? How much will cost to insure and maintain, is it a risk theft wise etc? How much will you even drive it if you are always working to pay it off?

    Women don't think of things like that, they just want. They want the corporate job but want to be a mother, kid goes in childcare, husband does more hours, divorce looming. Or they want to be stay at home mom, husband does more hours, she gets bored, fat, starts to hate herself, divorce looming.

    Sometimes having it all isn't what it's all cracked up to be. Some women have worked that out.

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    Who cares what they want , I see guys chasing a relationship passing shit tests fuck that , acting like a dog … You can still see women on your terms 100% .. ‘I am going shopping will you come ? ‘ No … I am watching TV .. whine moan , listen bitch you don’t like it leave there is the door …. As long as you are not married or tied up financially you hold all the cards … never forget that ..

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    Re: Women want to do too much

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    No, not people. Women. Women see things as experiences.

    Women don't eat lunch. They have lunch. It's the totality of the experience that they like. They don't slam down a sandwich. They luxuriate in it all.

    They are sensual creatures. Not the sexual definition here, but the other one: Given to or preoccupied with gratification of the senses. I'll go so far as to say they masturbate their senses all day everyday. LOL

    Why do they fuss with shades of meaning? Because they mine the language for every morsel that could activate a feeling. Every new twist and turn is a titillation.

    Why do they love to taste food? Why the high level of experimentation with recipes? Because they are masturbating their taste buds.

    Why so many clothes, so many shoes? The variety in this maintains a constant change of stimulation.

    Why the drama in relationships? Because they love the stimulation, even negative stimulation excites them.

    Why so much of so much?

    They are drug addicts for their senses.

    Think about this until you decide I am right. LOL
    Precisely.

    All of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buller View Post
    Who cares what they want , I see guys chasing a relationship passing shit tests fuck that , acting like a dog … You can still see women on your terms 100% .. ‘I am going shopping will you come ? ‘ No … I am watching TV .. whine moan , listen bitch you don’t like it leave there is the door …. As long as you are not married or tied up financially you hold all the cards … never forget that ..
    What women want is such a boring and old question now. Women, if they ever were in the first place, are no longer to be considered mysterious or mystical creatures. They're just boring and self absorbed now and barely feminine at all.

    I remember the shit tests, I didn't even know the term but that is what I called it in my head. Everything seemed to be going fine, chatting away, getting along. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere, an argument, a problem, a tantrum. Something. I did something wrong but what was it? Why? How do I fix it?

    Hang on.. I didn't do anything... why am I still here? I can call an escort or go to a brothel if I really want to...


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