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    woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    This is an interesting twist. Her DNA profile was available to cops because of her rape kit. Then that profile was used against her when she allegedly committed some other crime and left her DNA behind.

    I would be upset if some woman was able to get away with a serious crime just because you can't match her to a DNA profile that exists because of a rape kit. What if she murdered someone? What if she herself committed rape. Just because you're a victim of a crime does not give you license to commit a crime. I guess I would be okay with the DNA evidence being excluded if it's a minor crime, but if it's a murder or a serious assault, I say let the evidence be used.

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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    Reads like she has gotten away with a crime. It is another double standard of not holding women responsible for their actions. Rape is terrible. The police are for the protection of everyone. Victims of a crime should not be given a get out of jail free card for another crime.

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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    She's mad because she got linked to a crime? Oh, poor baby, we'd all like to get away with our crimes, wouldn't we?

    "Hey, police, you outsmarted me! There ought to be a law against that!"

    So, she pulls the indignant act, smothering her culpability with righteousness because, you know, her story is tangentially tied to rape and rape is a crime against women and...

    I can hear her thoughts from all the way here, her complaint of being victimized twice for being raped, etc. Whatever works, right?

    From the article:

    The police department’s crime lab stopped the practice shortly after receiving a complaint from the district attorney’s office and formally changed its operating procedure to prevent the misuse of DNA collected from sexual assault victims, said the police chief, Bill Scott.
    Rape is a pretty sacred thing to women. Gives them super-powers. Whoa, everybody, stand back, she invoked the R word. The cops bought into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    She's mad because she got linked to a crime? Oh, poor baby, we'd all like to get away with our crimes, wouldn't we?

    "Hey, police, you outsmarted me! There ought to be a law against that!"

    So, she pulls the indignant act, smothering her culpability with righteousness because, you know, her story is tangentially tied to rape and rape is a crime against women and...

    I can hear her thoughts from all the way here, her complaint of being victimized twice for being raped, etc. Whatever works, right?

    From the article:

    Rape is a pretty sacred thing to women. Gives them super-powers. Whoa, everybody, stand back, she invoked the R word. The cops bought into it.
    Feminists love it when women get raped. That way they're able to exploit the situation to gain power. The rest of us sane people despise rape and wish it would never happen to any human being. It's why sane people will give women good advice such as, "If you don't know a man well, don't go back to his hotel room with him." Duh. Why would you ever trust someone you don't know? But feminazis look at that same advice and scream "victim blaming." That's asinine. It's always good advice to try to avoid danger. It does not mean you're giving some rapist permission to rape people.

    If only feminists told the truth, they would be as unpopular as the KKK. I wish just once a feminist would tell a rape victim the truth which is, "I'm glad you got raped and it made the news. It gives the feminist movement more political power." If they told that truth, almost everyone would be like, "Fuck you, bitch," and feminism would be known for the hate movement that it is.

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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    When the cops get a guy's DNA they don't care where it comes from, not do they refrain from using it in court. The po po needs to grow a pair.
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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    Quote Originally Posted by From the linked article
    The revelation prompted a backlash from advocates, law enforcement, legal experts and lawmakers, many of whom warned the practice could affect victims’ willingness to come forward to law enforcement authorities.
    “Could affect victims’ willingness to come forward”…

    Also, it could prevent an innocent being charged with a crime.

    Simple solution (maybe not so simple):

    We now live in an age where vast amounts of data are being held on virtually everyone. DNA test EVERYONE at birth and use it in criminal cases as and when appropriate.

    But the criminals wouldn’t like that now would they?

    I’m not exactly advocating this. Evidence can be planted or misinterpreted but shouldn’t law enforcement be able to utilise the tools available?

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    Re: DNA and rape

    This story prompts two thoughts for me. First, this seems to be representative of the oppression Olympics that so many activists, including feminists, engage in. First of all, Rape is a horrific crime and those who do it should be severely punished. However, the activist narrative seems to be that once you're a victim of a horrific crime, you should be given a free pass for committing other crimes.

    A common argument goes something to the effect of "if the DNA obtained from a rape kit can be used to prosecute the victim for other crimes, fewer victims will be willing to come forward". This prompts the second thought. When I was young and foolish, I joined the Army. Part of the in-processing was taking my fingerprints, which were turned over to the FBI. Now, should I ever be suspected of a crime, various law enforcement agencies can obtain copies of my fingerprints, without my knowing about it. I don't hear anyone complaining about new military recruits being fingerprinted, and saying that this might make people less willing to join the military.

    [Mod note: I believe this was meant for the thread named "woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her", and thus I've moved it here. -- TigPlaze]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedoldman65 View Post
    This story prompts two thoughts for me. First, this seems to be representative of the oppression Olympics that so many activists, including feminists, engage in. First of all, Rape is a horrific crime and those who do it should be severely punished. However, the activist narrative seems to be that once you're a victim of a horrific crime, you should be given a free pass for committing other crimes.

    A common argument goes something to the effect of "if the DNA obtained from a rape kit can be used to prosecute the victim for other crimes, fewer victims will be willing to come forward". This prompts the second thought. When I was young and foolish, I joined the Army. Part of the in-processing was taking my fingerprints, which were turned over to the FBI. Now, should I ever be suspected of a crime, various law enforcement agencies can obtain copies of my fingerprints, without my knowing about it. I don't hear anyone complaining about new military recruits being fingerprinted, and saying that this might make people less willing to join the military.
    That's a great point. I would add that a lot of serial killers were abused as children, for example, Ted Bundy, Rodney Acala, and others, but we don't give them a free pass to terrorize the public with brutal crimes just because they were crime victims.

    I could see coming down the pike -- some woman serial killer (yes, they exist) gets away with multiple murders just because the DNA available was from her rape kit.

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    Women are fundamentally wired as sociopathic parasites. It's just one parasite playing the game on a higher level (leeching off victimhood through society at large as opposed to 1 man/social group).

    And it's only "rape" when a man is unattractive. Otherwise it's totally ok and hot. Women's only logic and reasoning is a child or sociopaths logic and reasoning "what resources, physically or socially will this get me, and can I get away with it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithoughtshewas18ohms View Post
    Women are fundamentally wired as sociopathic parasites. It's just one parasite playing the game on a higher level (leeching off victimhood through society at large as opposed to 1 man/social group).

    And it's only "rape" when a man is unattractive. Otherwise it's totally ok and hot. Women's only logic and reasoning is a child or sociopaths logic and reasoning "what resources, physically or socially will this get me, and can I get away with it".
    Well, it's rape if the dude somehow forced her to do it without her consent, for example, he physically overpowered her or he gave her some drug that knocked her out. Good-looking dudes do have a way easier time getting women to consent, but it's still possible for one to be a rapist. For example, this dude, Andrew Luster, was this ultra rich and good-looking heir to the Max Factor fortune, and he could get women wanting him. However, for some reason he was such a sick fuck that he preferred drugging women and raping them while unconscious. So that weirdo is a rapist and deserved to go to prison.

    I just wanted to make that distinction. So, yes, a good-looking dude who's rich can easily get consent, and if he does, it's not rape. However, it is still possible for him to be a rapist if, for whatever reason, he chose to bang someone without getting that consent.

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    It's only rape if a woman "feels" raped. As long as he has money/status and she can get something out of the association than it's all good. When the benefits dry up, and can get attention/sue, RAPE!

    A man "violently forcing himself/drugging" a woman is extremely rare. In the modern world it's practically non existant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithoughtshewas18ohms View Post
    It's only rape if a woman "feels" raped. As long as he has money/status and she can get something out of the association than it's all good. When the benefits dry up, and can get attention/sue, RAPE!

    A man "violently forcing himself/drugging" a woman is extremely rare. In the modern world it's practically non existant.
    I definitely would not call it non-existent, no. Look, there's no reason to deny that there are goons out there raping women. That shit is real. I know more than one woman who has been raped, and they're not blowing smoke.

    We MGTOW are better than the human garbage that goes around raping people. If it were a MGTOW who's not in MONK mode, and is still open to sex, and she said, "Sorry, but I can't do this right now," he would be like, "Okay, no biggie. Let's hang out and listen to music." We're not addicted to sex, and we would never force anyone into it. We cry foul if some woman agrees to sex, and then later accuses someone of rape anyway. But if she declined to agree to sex, but the dude forces through anyway, taking what he wants, then he's the one we despise.

    It's starting to sound like you're a troll trying to make MGTOW sound like rapists. Well, it won't work. We know the difference. If a dude makes a woman fuck against her will, that's rape, and it's something we despise.

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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    Hmm... Nice thoughts!

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    Re: woman's DNA profile from rape kit used against her

    A man "violently forcing himself/drugging" a woman is extremely rare. In the modern world it's practically non existant.
    As rape is a forced act, the above is a grievously dismissive thing to say, although you may have your own personal definition of extremely rare. I don't believe the rest of people would categorize the actual statistics in that way, and we are not here to weigh in on that. I don't want anyone reading that to assume it is a broad MGTOW belief.

    This site does not agree with that statement. For our lurkers, this is one man's opinion and is not representative of MGTOW.

    These threads start out talking about a specific news event around rape but we must always be careful that the conversation does not incrementally step away too far from the topic and move into areas where we do not want to go. Not on this topic.

    We have ventured too far off-topic here. I am closing this thread.



    Quote Originally Posted by mitkahartford View Post
    Hmm... Nice thoughts!
    Buddy, you picked the wrong thread to post that thoughtless, throwaway comment to game our site to help you reach the minimum 5 posts to access certain other features of this site. Sorry that you can't be more responsible with us. This is a perfect example of why I ban for that shit. So non-MGTOW.
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