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    Re: A woman gives her take on current gender dynamics

    Until a civilization goes back to women being the property of their husband and not having voting or land owning rights, that's what happens. If we are to have a stable civilization, women must be kept in subjection to their husbands.
    Not until long ago, women weren't allowed to own property in Japan.
    But that doesn't mean the society wasn't gynocentric.

    And how do you propose we go back to that time?

    You aren't one of those MGTOW's who believe in taking women's rights away?

    A hard patriarchy is by default anti-mgtow.
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    Re: A woman gives her take on current gender dynamics

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Not until long ago, women weren't allowed to own property in Japan.
    But that doesn't mean the society wasn't gynocentric.

    And how do you propose we go back to that time?

    You aren't one of those MGTOW's who believe in taking women's rights away?

    A hard patriarchy is by default anti-mgtow.
    There was once a video from an ex-satanist, discussing gender dynamics. He stated that the dominance of women over men was satanic in origin. But he also stated that the dominance of men over women was satanic...

    His argument was that one person imposing power over the other was the satanic view. And I quite agree with that.

    We got to were we are from a very humane male desire: that women can have freedom and express their will.

    Unfortunately not only because of female nature but also because of societal forces, the outcome has been an inversion of roles: now men are the oppressed.

    The important fact to remember is that, if men have power over women them men are responsible for women. Despite the fact than most men are much better in doing this then women are (the traditional patriarchal system), the fact remains that it men are also as unfree as women in this arrangement.

    The utopian view of men in the beginning of this shit was that women should take responsibility for themselves, thus relieving men from this burden. Anyone that has taken care of children knows how exhausting it can be, but taking care of women is a lot worst. The idea was to free men as much as to free women.

    Were this went wrong was ignoring the environment: a post-industrial materialistic society is ripe for the dominance of the worst female traits.


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