Thread: Why There Was a Popular Revolt in Iran

All this drama that we've witnessed in Iran was caused by women, who had been exposed to social media, and wanted to adopt the culture of their female counterparts in the west.

They wanted to become thots, and the men supported this, assuming it would 'liberate' the women and make it easier for the men there to get laid. In reality, these newly-minted whores would just hook up with the top best-looking men, while everyone else would rot.

The law of unintended consequences is a real bitch. Just look at what happened in America with 'The Sexual Revolution', which caused the rate of divorce and sexless men to skyrocket. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of Iranian men to support the conservative regime that is currently in power. This way, they at least have a chance to get a wife*.


*I myself am not a proponent of marriage, or even LTR's or children. However, I recognize that most men around the world are. Given this, they would be much happier in a traditional society, rather than a feminist one.

Only thing I'd seen was when there was some protest going on bout 4 months ago, was riding around till I saw traffic, took a turn into a mall parking lot and my god, all the parking spots were full, all the roads between were packed with 0 moving traffic.

Pretty sure I was the only one on a vehicle having fun lane splitting, and hopping over curbs & going on the sidewalk - not often you get to practice low speed makeovers in real situations like that. That was fun, not sure what it was completely about tho.

OP, YOU ARE NOT MGTOW.

We walk away from women.

We dont drone on and on about how life was better for men before the 20th Century.

We certainly do not wish for women to have to revert back to lives with greatly restricted freedoms and rights.

You OP shows everyone that you are in fact an INCEL.

Not a MGTOW.

I have nothing against incels. But this is a mgtow forum.

Please stop writing about how you would love to see women go back to a life of suffering.

Interesting enough this "uprising" happened just at a time when Iran is producing and selling weapons (i.e. drones) to Russia. Smells like alphabet action if you ask me. A soft warning, with love from ...

Originally Posted by BMod

OP, YOU ARE NOT MGTOW.

We walk away from women.

We dont drone on and on about how life was better for men before the 20th Century.

We certainly do not wish for women to have to revert back to lives with greatly restricted freedoms and rights.

You OP shows everyone that you are in fact an INCEL.

Not a MGTOW.

I have nothing against incels. But this is a mgtow forum.

Please stop writing about how you would love to see women go back to a life of suffering.

I had a sex life once upon a time, but never married. This wasn't due to any overarching philosophical principles that I held (like I do now), but because I simply enjoyed my privacy, was fiercely independent, and refused to be controlled. I was innately like this since I was a child (as I described in an earlier thread).

I walked away from women back in 2007, and pursued a life of traveling, serious hobbies and self discovery. I still indulged in P4P sex overseas from time to time, but my pursuit of [civilian] women ended that year, and I've never looked back since.

I guess I now sound like an incel because I finally realize that one of the main reasons I walked away all those years ago was due to, not only women's inherent nature, but also to the encroaching cultural Marxism of the time, which exacerbated their behavior to an insufferable degree.

This is why, given a choice, I support almost any conservative government's attempts to preserve traditional culture and fend off Globohomo/feminist/neo-Marxist degeneracy (which the citizens of Iran are apparently leaning towards).

I myself have never craved marriage, or even a close long-term relationship (stumbled into 2 of them during my lifetime--not enjoyable), but I recognize that the vast majority of men, especially overseas, do. And, they will undoubtedly have a relatively better relationship with their wives in the context of a traditional society as opposed to a feminist one.

Agreed. Wouldn't be the first time, look at the involvement of the CIA in the removal of Mohammad Mosaddegh.

I believe you.

Im just concerned (i believe you share the same concerns) that us MGTOWs are drifting from the most important things in our lives: self improvement and/or fulfillment.

Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard

Interesting enough this "uprising" happened just at a time when Iran is producing and selling weapons (i.e. drones) to Russia. Smells like alphabet action if you ask me. A soft warning, with love from ...

Not a lot of doubt about it.

Once Pandora's Box is open there is no going back.... Once they know, then it's too late cause they know. Iran was moving quickly to become modern.... Traditional values were always going to be 2nd place when that happens.

Iranians have been held hostage by a bunch of zealots since 1979, they cheered Death to America and put the zealots in charge. I'm glad I don't live there because I wouldn't last long, fuckem! Let them have their shithole any way they want it.

Originally Posted by mgtower

Iranians have been held hostage by a bunch of zealots since 1979, they cheered Death to America and put the zealots in charge. I'm glad I don't live there because I wouldn't last long, fuckem! Let them have their shithole any way they want it.

The last few years (5?) they have been trying to catch up at light speed....

Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

Not a lot of doubt about it.

Another hotspot right now is Kosovo, located in the middle of Albania and Serbia.

Serbians are slavic, orthodox and have many historic connections to Russia. Albanians (who are the majority in Kosovo) are muslims and closer to the Turks. Both parties hate each other which goes back to the Ottoman's conquer of the Balkan and since then there was no peace.

However, since the war in Yugoslavia (of course led without a UN mandate), there are NATO troups and peacemaking troups stationed in Kosovo.

And like a clockwork, this conflict seems to get hot again as well...

Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard

Another hotspot right now is Kosovo, located in the middle of Albania and Serbia.

Serbians are slavic, orthodox and have many historic connections to Russia. Albanians (who are the majority in Kosovo) are muslims and closer to the Turks. Both parties hate each other which goes back to the Ottoman's conquer of the Balkan and since then there was no peace.

However, since the war in Yugoslavia (of course led without a UN mandate), there are NATO troups and peacemaking troups stationed in Kosovo.

And like a clockwork, this conflict seems to get hot again as well...

No doubt Putin's has his stick in that fire, the more you distract your adversaries with peripheral matters, the more they're blind to the obvious with increased vulnerability. I'm waiting for a wildcard like Israel and the "Abraham accord" member states strike on Iran, like a bunch of schoolyard kids that had enough of the neighborhood bully.

P.S. That conflict goes all the way back to Constantinople (Istanbul), I'm torn between two loves...

Originally Posted by mgtower

No doubt Putin's has his stick in that fire, the more you distract your adversaries with peripheral matters, the more they're blind to the obvious with increased vulnerability. I'm waiting for a wildcard like Israel and the "Abraham accord" member states strike on Iran, like a bunch of schoolyard kids that had enough of the neighborhood bully.

P.S. That conflict goes all the way back to Constantinople (Istanbul), I'm torn between two loves...

Exactly, a story with a thousand year old beginning and no end in sight. And almost impossible to tell who the real bully is.

Originally Posted by Eat, Play, MGTOW

All this drama that we've witnessed in Iran was caused by women, who had been exposed to social media, and wanted to adopt the culture of their female counterparts in the west.

They wanted to become thots, and the men supported this, assuming it would 'liberate' the women and make it easier for the men there to get laid. In reality, these newly-minted whores would just hook up with the top best-looking men, while everyone else would rot.

The law of unintended consequences is a real bitch. Just look at what happened in America with 'The Sexual Revolution', which caused the rate of divorce and sexless men to skyrocket. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of Iranian men to support the conservative regime that is currently in power. This way, they at least have a chance to get a wife*.


*I myself am not a proponent of marriage, or even LTR's or children. However, I recognize that most men around the world are. Given this, they would be much happier in a traditional society, rather than a feminist one.

A more traditional society is better for everything all around. I have to admit, these Muslim countries don’t put up with the type of bullshit we have going on in the States. They don’t have whores running around on social media, completely out of control and shaking their asses for all to see. I don’t agree with the stoning of women of course, but I like the shame aspect that they throw on women who don’t behave like ladies. Shame isn’t always a bad thing in my opinion. It’s meant to get you to reflect on your thoughts and actions and implement some change.

Take a look at where women and liberation gets you. The only place that path leads to is feminism and feminism needs to be eradicated from society.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

A more traditional society is better for everything all around. I have to admit, these Muslim countries don’t put up with the type of bullshit we have going on in the States. They don’t have whores running around on social media, completely out of control and shaking their asses for all to see. I don’t agree with the stoning of women of course, but I like the shame aspect that they throw on women who don’t behave like ladies. Shame isn’t always a bad thing in my opinion. It’s meant to get you to reflect on your thoughts and actions and implement some change.

Take a look at where women and liberation gets you. The only place that path leads to is feminism and feminism needs to be eradicated from society.

It's too heavy of a bag to carry, who wants to saddle themselves with the task of taming demonic vipers that in the end are still poisonous? I removed and excused myself from the whole equation for the sake of having psychological and emotional maneuverability in a timeline we need it the most! My mind and soul looks at life from an observation window as far away from the trenches I can get. I don't do quagmires, I leap over them and let them run their course, trenches are always laced with the odor of death, some dive in, others rather not, AKA the sewer of humanity.

The more they destroy the old order (patriarchy) the more our motivations should be focused on self, but not of selfishness, rather from reactionary to the selfishness of others.

A man can stand alone under almost any pressure. Standing alone when society expects you to shoulder the lazy sloth of others is when standing alone is better than standing together.

Bit by bit the social construct removes accountability and places it on others, therein destroying incentive and increasing overall poverty that spreads like cancer.

MGTOW embodies this phenomenon to a T'. We're disengaged and pulling away at lightspeed, freed from the drag and dread created in the cesspool of cultural Marxism.

Cruising through life without a marriage license is like driving where the rules don't apply to you and you can go as fast as you want! No tickets, no penalties, no court dates, just you pitting your skills on the highway of life! The cops don't even see you and your car is stealth!

Originally Posted by mgtower

It's too heavy of a bag to carry, who wants to saddle themselves with the task of taming demonic vipers that in the end are still poisonous? I removed and excused myself from the whole equation for the sake of having psychological and emotional maneuverability in a timeline we need it the most! My mind and soul looks at life from an observation window as far away from the trenches I can get. I don't do quagmires, I leap over them and let them run their course, trenches are always laced with the odor of death, some dive in, others rather not, AKA the sewer of humanity.

The more they destroy the old order (patriarchy) the more our motivations should be focused on self, but not of selfishness, rather from reactionary to the selfishness of others.

A man can stand alone under almost any pressure. Standing alone when society expects you to shoulder the lazy sloth of others is when standing alone is better than standing together.

Bit by bit the social construct removes accountability and places it on others, therein destroying incentive and increasing overall poverty that spreads like cancer.

MGTOW embodies this phenomenon to a T'. We're disengaged and pulling away at lightspeed, freed from the drag and dread created in the cesspool of cultural Marxism.

Cruising through life without a marriage license is like driving where the rules don't apply to you and you can go as fast as you want! No tickets, no penalties, no court dates, just you pitting your skills on the highway of life! The cops don't even see you and your car is stealth!

Agree for the most part. But keep in mind that, even though we've disengaged from women and much of society long ago, we're still part of society, and are forced to interact with it. We're like fish living a toxic lake. No matter where we swim, we're still enveloped by its noxious water. We may not marry, have children, or engage in social events, but interaction with the world is inevitable, and we are affected by the state our society is in:

- Every time we have an unpleasant exchange with an arrogant cashier, who's a 4 on a good day, but thinks she's a 9, we are being adversely affected by the fallout of cultural Marxism. Fifty years ago, that cashier would likely have been pleasant to her customers, if anything, for fear of disappointing her (male) boss and losing her job.

- Every time a diminutive pair of female cops or firefighters show up during a crisis, our lives are being jeopardized. A traditional, patriarchal society would never allow a woman's desire to play-act as a first responder to take precedence over the public's safety.

- Every time our comments on YouTube get shadowbanned by their Orwellian algorithm, or our internet searches return biased results, or we are subjected to round-the-clock propaganda in television and film, we are being affected by the cultural Marxist zeitgeist. Mind you, this happens right in our own homes, without even stepping foot outside! It's inescapable.

I may not be a conservative activist, who attempts to rectify the wrongs of society, but I sure as hell am going to be a cheerleader for any country that is. And, despite my status as a MGTOW, I like to think that, somewhere in the remotest regions of the world, sanity still prevails.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

A more traditional society is better for everything all around. I have to admit, these Muslim countries don’t put up with the type of bullshit we have going on in the States. They don’t have whores running around on social media, completely out of control and shaking their asses for all to see. I don’t agree with the stoning of women of course, but I like the shame aspect that they throw on women who don’t behave like ladies. Shame isn’t always a bad thing in my opinion. It’s meant to get you to reflect on your thoughts and actions and implement some change.

Take a look at where women and liberation gets you. The only place that path leads to is feminism and feminism needs to be eradicated from society.

Wholeheartedly agree. But it goes even deeper than that.

It's not just about female behavior and sex, which is bad enough; it's about maintaining the very integrity of society.

Allowing females to supplant males in the name of 'diversity', 'equity' and 'inclusion' causes great harm to society on a systemic level. Virtually every discipline has been degraded as a direct result of females (and unqualified non-whites, gays, 'transgenders', etc.) being artificially elevated to positions where they have no business being. Everything, from engineering, law enforcement, politics, transportation, technology, law, medicine, science, you name it. And, every time there's a repercussion because of it, you can count on their minions in the media to quickly spring into action and cover up for them. It's disgusting and demoralizing. In a sane society, the people enabling this would be rounded up, placed against a wall, and shot for treason.

Originally Posted by Eat, Play, MGTOW

Wholeheartedly agree. But it goes even deeper than that.

It's not just about female behavior and sex, which is bad enough; it's about maintaining the very integrity of society.

Allowing females to supplant males in the name of 'diversity', 'equity' and 'inclusion' causes great harm to society on a systemic level. Virtually every discipline has been degraded as a direct result of females (and unqualified non-whites, gays, 'transgenders', etc.) being artificially elevated to positions where they have no business being. Everything, from engineering, law enforcement, politics, transportation, technology, law, medicine, science, you name it. And, every time there's a repercussion because of it, you can count on their minions in the media to quickly spring into action and cover up for them. It's disgusting and demoralizing. In a sane society, the people enabling this would be rounded up, placed against a wall, and shot for treason.

Bingo. And look how fast it spreads/takes over once given a foot in the door. In the United States...what - 60 or so years for a complete take over of the most powerful nation? Not that long. I think we've all seen that 1984 interview with Yuri Bezmenov which I just watched again since I had to look up the spelling of his name. Everything he said happened.

Originally Posted by Eat, Play, MGTOW

All this drama that we've witnessed in Iran was caused by women, who had been exposed to social media, and wanted to adopt the culture of their female counterparts in the west.

They wanted to become thots, and the men supported this, assuming it would 'liberate' the women and make it easier for the men there to get laid. In reality, these newly-minted whores would just hook up with the top best-looking men, while everyone else would rot.

The law of unintended consequences is a real bitch. Just look at what happened in America with 'The Sexual Revolution', which caused the rate of divorce and sexless men to skyrocket. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of Iranian men to support the conservative regime that is currently in power. This way, they at least have a chance to get a wife*.


*I myself am not a proponent of marriage, or even LTR's or children. However, I recognize that most men around the world are. Given this, they would be much happier in a traditional society, rather than a feminist one.

Iran is not a good model for modern countries. It's a backward, primitive nation. There are good reasons why it's so far behind the West.

First point: There's no love or marriage in a primitive society where the men keep the women down by force.

I wouldn't want to live in some kind of backward society where men have to beat women to keep them in line. Is that the kind of marriage you want? Where you have to beat the shit out of your wife to keep her in line? She ends up being your worst enemy, and you have to eat the food she prepares for you and sleep in her bed. Talk about "sleeping with the enemy." An angry, bitter wife will make your life an absolute hell. Guaranteed. Every time.

And with the modern internet, you can't keep women stupid forever. They're going to get together on the internet and raise hell.

If a woman become trouble, I would rather just kick the woman out. That was always the dividing line between marriage and divorce for me. When things got so acrimonious that I legitimately had to fear for my safety, health, or sanity around the wife, I packed my bags and walked out the door. If we don't have each other's back, then we're through.

Second point: Here's my prescription for a successful modern society:

I don't mind women being modern and equal. The only thing that pisses me off is when blue-pill simps cater to them to the point that women get an unfair edge and start turning society upside-down. If the blue-pill simps would just back off, then we could have a genuinely equal society based on merit: Let the men have the things they excel at, and let the women have the things they excel at.

In the book "Men. Women. Relationships." Paul Elam (an old-guard MRA) says that men are to blame for Western society being so gynocentric. It's not the fault of women. As part of romantic chivalry and paying court to women, men sold out society. (See my signature.)

Elam says: "While many men's issues are tied to feminist doctrine, we would do well to remember that feminism did little more than exploit weakness men were already demonstrating a very long time before feminist power was a thing. Think of it this way. Most denizens of the Manosphere are familiar with the loaded gun metaphor. The rationale being not to marry because the state effectively puts a loaded gun in her hand which she can use with impunity any time she wants. Look closer at the picture. This is the real loaded gun. And it has a man's suicidal finger on the trigger. [...] Gynocentrism, with all its lamented detriment to men, is seen expressed almost exclusively in the actions of men. [...]

Elam continues: "Blaming feminists or even women is a miss. This is men doing harm to themselves. They have grown accustomed to living life on the lower rung of the dominance ladder with women, even as those same women allege it's a man's world. And they look to continue doing it to themselves for the next few millennia. [...] And so, what this boils down to is something really disturbing. We are unlikely to ever see full and sweeping change in how most men relate to women." (p. 29-31) [My emphasis.]

To sum up:

It's not equality that's hurting society. Equality is good, as long as you also have a true meritocracy. The problem is that blue-pill simps tilt the balance and destroy the meritocracy. To fix the problem, you have to rebuild the meritocracy. You have to get the blue-pill simps to back off.

And primitive countries like Iran are no better. They have neither equality nor meritocracy. They have inequality, caste systems, and religious authorities. They are dictatorships that crush you if you say the wrong thing or disagree with the authorities. That's why they are backwards and primitive. They're not good models to emulate.

If you want a country that maximizes its potential and provides freedom for all its citizens, then aim for equality + true meritocracy. And just walk out on women when they start fucking up.