Thread: Why There Was a Popular Revolt in Iran

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Bingo. And look how fast it spreads/takes over once given a foot in the door. In the United States...what - 60 or so years for a complete take over of the most powerful nation? Not that long. I think we've all seen that 1984 interview with Yuri Bezmenov which I just watched again since I had to look up the spelling of his name. Everything he said happened.

Exactly. No sooner does the left introduce a new word or concept, that it becomes quickly absorbed and ingrained into the very fabric of the culture at breakneck speed, and anyone who dares dispute its validity is gaslighted and called names. This is how these scumbags have operated for over half a century now.

P.S.: Will check out that Bezmenov interview.

Originally Posted by MGTOWLife

First point: There's no love or marriage in a primitive society where the men keep the women down by force.

I wouldn't want to live in some kind of backward society where men have to beat women to keep them in line. Is that the kind of marriage you want? Where you have to beat the shit out of your wife to keep her in line? She ends up being your worst enemy, and you have to eat the food she prepares for you and sleep in her bed. Talk about "sleeping with the enemy."

Neither would I. In fact, I wouldn't even want a wife and kids in an ideal society (if one existed), let alone a primitive one.
But I'm not speaking on my own behalf. I'm speaking for the men who've lived in such societies for thousands of years, dating back to ancient Babylon. What makes them happy would not make me happy.

Originally Posted by MGTOWLife

It's not equality that's hurting society. Equality is good, as long as you also have a true meritocracy.

There's really no such thing as "equality". You either control others to some extent or be controlled. That's how humans are hardwired, unfortunately. It's a survival mechanism. History is littered with examples of 'equality' morphing into tyranny. So, for my money, I'd rather control women than be controlled by them (as they're starting to do now). I have no other choice.

Originally Posted by MGTOWLife

I don't mind women being modern and equal. The only thing that pisses me off is when blue-pill simps cater to them to the point that women get an unfair edge and start turning society upside-down.

This dovetails with what I stated above. Make women "equal", and they will run amok and wreak havoc on your society. Why? Because they never evolved to be "equal" nor 'independent'. They evolved to be reliant on men for guidance, protection and provisioning. So, it's foolish to nullify a quarter million years of human evolution just to cater to the misguided mores of four 'woke' generations of dipshits (Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Zoomers), who have been living in artificially good times (post-WWii). These last 80 or so years are not at all representative of human history.

Originally Posted by Eat, Play, MGTOW

Neither would I. In fact, I wouldn't even want a wife and kids in an ideal society (if one existed), let alone a primitive one.
But I'm not speaking on my own behalf. I'm speaking for the men who've lived in such societies for thousands of years, dating back to ancient Babylon. What makes them happy would not make me happy.


There's really no such thing as "equality". You either control others to some extent or be controlled. That's how humans are hardwired, unfortunately. It's a survival mechanism. History is littered with examples of 'equality' morphing into tyranny. So, for my money, I'd rather control women than be controlled by them (as they're starting to do now). I have no other choice.


This dovetails with what I stated above. Make women "equal", and they will run amok and wreak havoc on your society. Why? Because they never evolved to be "equal" nor 'independent'. They evolved to be reliant on men for guidance, protection and provisioning. So, it's foolish to nullify a quarter million years of human evolution just to cater to the misguided mores of four 'woke' generations of dipshits (Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Zoomers), who have been living in artificially good times (post-WWii). These last 80 or so years are not at all representative of human history.

You're spouting blue-pill incel nonsense. You want to turn the entire Western world into backward, shithole theocratic dictatorships, pair off 1 woman to 1 man, and outlaw divorce so that couples are stuck together no matter how miserable they become.

No way.

First off, blue-pill incels are the exact kind of simps that got us into the mess we're in. They're ultra-thirsty for women, and they'll happily chain themselves to miserable marriages for life just on the hope that the wifey might give them a little starfish sex once in a while. Meantime, chaining men to women for life effectively forces men to simp for the wife to keep the wife happy and avoid chaos in the household.

Second off, this is a red-pill message board. MGTOWs tend to want less marriage, not more. I'm red-pill. You really think I want to submit to a backward, shithole theocratic dictatorship just so that thirsty blue-pill incels can get an occasional whiff of pussy? Or to be forced into a bad marriage for life myself? That's not my idea of heaven.

If the incels need relief that bad, then raise a tax to send them to a whorehouse so they can wet their dicks once a year. That would be a lot cheaper than setting up a theocratic dictatorship.

But to outlaw divorce? That would be misery for men. The Bible is full of warnings about how wives will drive you crazy. And it was written at a time when there were shithole theocratic dictatorships and divorce was illegal. Not much love there.

I'm all for updating marriage and divorce laws, but only to the point of removing the gynocentric bias from the court system. If a man marries a bad woman, then he should be able to divorce her without the courts automatically awarding all the belongings and children to the wife. That would be a proper red-pill solution to society's problems.

You said that women "evolved to be reliant on men for their protection and provisioning." Well then, that's all the more reason for men to walk out on women when women misbehave. If men would quit simping and start walking out, women would cut out a lot of their shit. Walking out deprives women of the easy life they enjoy when married or partnered up.

Walking out on bad women is the solution. Make divorce fairer for men, so that men are quicker to walk out on women. Then women would have to think twice about treating men like shit.

Meantime, your suggestion that we take the blue-pill incel route of outlawing divorce would accomplish the exact opposite. That's how we got into this blue-pill hell in the first place: Chaining men to women for life effectively forces men to simp for women to keep the wife happy and avoid chaos in the household.

Marriage is a trap that benefits women, not men.

Originally Posted by BMod

I believe you.

Im just concerned (i believe you share the same concerns) that us MGTOWs are drifting from the most important things in our lives: self improvement and/or fulfillment.

I have to concur. We certainly have been drifting from self improvement and fulfillment. The reason for this, I think, is due to the cultural/political upheaval that's been going on around the world, including in the U.S., in the last few years. It's been a tremendous distraction, and it's made it difficult to focus on living a good MGTOW lifestyle. It's just hard to do when you're reminded that you're living in a Fourth Turning everywhere you go.

The women doing the protesting are upper middle class types, college educated etc. The Iranian Govt. aren't taking shit and are executing people for this.

I remember reading ages ago about kids in Iran who hated Islam and wondered why their parents would choose such a religion to base their own revolution around. Just goes to show you that we are all living with the mistakes of previous generations. The West of course had Feminism and the whole Hippy thing.

Complete disasters all around.

Originally Posted by mgtower

It's too heavy of a bag to carry, who wants to saddle themselves with the task of taming demonic vipers that in the end are still poisonous?

That's true for an individual. But for an entire country/society - someone has to bear the kids, and they do need a mother as well as a father when all is said and done. Outlawing sluttery and single motherhood is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Kryptic

The women doing the protesting are upper middle class types, college educated etc. The Iranian Govt. aren't taking shit and are executing people for this.

I remember reading ages ago about kids in Iran who hated Islam and wondered why their parents would choose such a religion to base their own revolution around. Just goes to show you that we are all living with the mistakes of previous generations. The West of course had Feminism and the whole Hippy thing.

Complete disasters all around.

Spot on!


Exodus 34:7 - Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Originally Posted by Eat, Play, MGTOW

All this drama that we've witnessed in Iran was caused by women, who had been exposed to social media, and wanted to adopt the culture of their female counterparts in the west.

They wanted to become thots, and the men supported this, assuming it would 'liberate' the women and make it easier for the men there to get laid. In reality, these newly-minted whores would just hook up with the top best-looking men, while everyone else would rot.

The law of unintended consequences is a real bitch. Just look at what happened in America with 'The Sexual Revolution', which caused the rate of divorce and sexless men to skyrocket. Therefore, it would be in the best interest of Iranian men to support the conservative regime that is currently in power. This way, they at least have a chance to get a wife*.


*I myself am not a proponent of marriage, or even LTR's or children. However, I recognize that most men around the world are. Given this, they would be much happier in a traditional society, rather than a feminist one.

It doesn't sound like you're talking about Iran's 1979 revolution. That one was complex with a lot of causes, but it sounds like you're talking about something more recent.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

It doesn't sound like you're talking about Iran's 1979 revolution. That one was complex with a lot of causes, but it sounds like you're talking about something more recent.

That's 40 yrs ago.... A lot has happened there since then.

Iran is not under direct influence of the USA, this means mainstream media may not be reporting news correctly.

"an unpleasant exchange with an arrogant cashier, who's a 4 on a good day, but thinks she's a 9"
That describes how it is where I live.

Originally Posted by MGTOWLife

Talk about "sleeping with the enemy."

This is the case even if you do no beat her. I get this straight from the horse's mouth.
She considers you as her enemy from day one. You must be beaten down with her tools available. She will beat you first. Her survival is at stake.

But hopefully, now they have twitter, onlyfans, cams etc... so they enjoy their "liberty" as sluts and now, eSluts.

Originally Posted by max999

This is the case even if you do no beat her. I get this straight from the horse's mouth.
She considers you as her enemy from day one. You must be beaten down with her tools available. She will beat you first. Her survival is at stake.

But hopefully, now they have twitter, onlyfans, cams etc... so they enjoy their "liberty" as sluts and now, eSluts.

Hordes of E-Cucks jerking off on her fans-only thriving E-Cummerse web-cam!