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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    I don't know if this is gay or not, but I enjoy being with the men non-sexually, than being with the bitches. Back when I had a gym membership and I was in the men's sauna/steam room, or with my personal trainer, I would talk to them just to make friendly conversation and talk about our lives, or working out in the gym, or about Anime, pop culture and so on. When I'm at my local Best Buy store, I like to talk about technology because I love electronics and I want to learn more about it. When I talk to the bitches, all I get is attitude and resentment and nag, nag, nag, and anything that makes me feel uncomfortable.

    That being said, it's just best I hang with the guys and do guy stuff than hang with the bitches. I don't live in the same universe with the bitches.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    I don't know if this is gay or not, but I enjoy being with the men non-sexually, than being with the bitches. Back when I had a gym membership and I was in the men's sauna/steam room, or with my personal trainer, I would talk to them just to make friendly conversation and talk about our lives, or working out in the gym, or about Anime, pop culture and so on. When I'm at my local Best Buy store, I like to talk about technology because I love electronics and I want to learn more about it. When I talk to the bitches, all I get is attitude and resentment and nag, nag, nag, and anything that makes me feel uncomfortable.

    That being said, it's just best I hang with the guys and do guy stuff than hang with the bitches. I don't live in the same universe with the bitches.
    I think that's the experience of most guys. It just makes sense, men have more in common with each other than they do with women. When I hang with my bros, especially traveling together, we get to do and talk about masculine things. We go snowboarding, rafting, rock climbing, paintballing, etc. We talk about sports, music, politics, whatever. It's the same with talking to random dudes, coworkers, whatever. Whenever I talk to women, I generally have to hear about topics I don't have much if any interest in. If I try to talk to a woman about music, she generally doesn't like what I like. I've never successfully gotten a woman to do anything remotely resembling an outdoor sport. Plus as a MGTOW now, I have to deal with some women expecting me to flirt with them, which I never do.

    Ironically, I've known several women who claim to prefer to socialize with men than women. They claim that men are funnier and less judgemental than their "girlfriends." My friend's wife fits that mold. She prefers to hang out with us dudes. Then again, she is quite the exception to most women- she's a true nerd, professional engineer, diehard sports fan, etc. She was the classic "never had a boyfriend" until meeting my buddy in college.
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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    It is amazing aint it? We see tons of men out here whos entire existence revolves around getting a crack at people whos main offer is a moist hole. e
    Remember that old joke? "You spend nine months trying to get out, and the rest of your life trying to get back in!"

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    There are no good/bad or rewarding/useless behaviours...there are only men that are allowed such and those that are not.

    I do approach women but only at my terms, basically in clubs or place where that is supposed to happen and I do it with outcome independant vibes...I'm basically saying you pass my looks test and wouldnt mind to see if it may work.

    The problem is that many men approch women above their league, women fvcked up in the head driven from ego or generally vibe like beggars.

    Working on your looks and lifestyle and being able to read their body language is what should be the decisive factor to decide if cold approaching or not.

    Right now for the average man dealing with the average woman its pointless most of the times if not exhausting or emotionally draining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrainPilot View Post
    The reason most women find it tough to approach men is not fear of rejection. It is because it requires them to acknowledge that they want/need money, and really have only one thing to offer in exchange for it. It means having to acknowledge that their need for a man's money is higher than his need for sex. It is an indication that the value of that one commodity is dropping....
    I agree with a lot of your post, but disagree a bit with what you said in this quote. I do think women fear rejection, all human beings do. In the case of women, they can hide this fear by arguing for "traditional roles" (ie, men should approach).

    You're right, they do need our money/investment.

    But I think the most accurate way to state all this, is this:

    --In their late teens/early twenties, women hold the power, due to their high levels of fertility.

    --In later years, as women's fertility/beauty wanes, and men's financial resources become significant, the man holds the power.

    I've seen plenty of married couples in their later years (70s/80s) that if the woman was not able to draw upon the man's financial resources, she would be totally screwed (ie, find it very hard to live/would not be able to live comfortably). At that point, the man usually has significant financial assets, and any physical charms that the woman had are long gone.

    Now, admittedly, these are people of my parents and grandparents generation, where they got married in their 20s and stayed married. That paradigm is increasingly gone and irrelevant.

    So, as many have stated before, I think we are on the verge of seeing a whole lot of women hit their menopausal/post menopausal/elderly years, and, being unmarried, are going to have a hard go of it. Not that I have any sympathy, of course.

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    The reason? Women, themselves

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    Redpill youself again dude, you just say you believed in nawalt.

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    If I don't cold approach prostitutes, I'm not going to cold approach regular women. Why ruin an otherwise good day?

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    It is amazing aint it? We see tons of men out here whos entire existence revolves around getting a crack at people whos main offer is a moist hole. Im talking untold hours of preparation how to approach, what to say, how to dress, what to achieve in life to impress, what kind of car to drive, how much money they need, how to smell, where to take them, how to style their hair, how to sculp their muscles in the gym. For many men you could say the first 40 years of their life is mostly spent in pursuit of moist holes. Kinda depressing when you think about it. This includes the married men who do the whole worship thing because she gives them access to the hole every once in a while.if I do xyz I might get lucky!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    Everything is about kissing her ass. Notice how everything is about her. All those things you mentioned remind me of the so called Alpha Mgtow YouTube guys. All they talk about is getting money and a nice car to impress women. I don't care what women or anyone thinks of me. Women are just a waste of time, energy, and money.
    Yep noticed all that as a kid. It seemed that everything was about the woman, in her favour, she got to decide as all these guys would just throw themselves at her. She could even get them to fight among themselves for her, like performing apes. See how they would turn on the men they considered lesser and not worth even her rejection let alone attention.

    And yet ever hear men talk about sex? "I slammed her good!" it's like she didn't even have to be in the room. All that energy chasing an experience that probably didn't even last more than 2 minutes. Then it's all about how they get out of there without too much effort! Hoping she doesn't call him etc

    No wonder I just cut out the crap and hired an escort.

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    I don’t approach women for the same reason i don’t ask my boss for a job

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    It is amazing ain’t it? We see tons of men out here who’s entire existence revolves around getting a crack at people whos main offer is a moist hole. I’m talking untold hours of preparation — how to approach, what to say, how to dress, what to achieve in life to impress, what kind of car to drive, how much money they need, how to smell, where to take them, how to style their hair, how to sculp their muscles in the gym. For many men you could say the first 40 years of their life is mostly spent in pursuit of moist holes. Kinda depressing when you think about it. This includes the married men who do the whole worship thing because she gives them access to the hole every once in a while….if I do xyz I might get lucky!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    Everything is about kissing her ass. Notice how everything is about her. All those things you mentioned remind me of the so called Alpha Mgtow YouTube guys. All they talk about is getting money and a nice car to impress women. I don't care what women or anyone thinks of me. Women are just a waste of time, energy, and money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    Yep noticed all that as a kid. It seemed that everything was about the woman, in her favour, she got to decide as all these guys would just throw themselves at her. She could even get them to fight among themselves for her, like performing apes. See how they would turn on the men they considered lesser and not worth even her rejection let alone attention.

    And yet ever hear men talk about sex? "I slammed her good!" it's like she didn't even have to be in the room. All that energy chasing an experience that probably didn't even last more than 2 minutes. Then it's all about how they get out of there without too much effort! Hoping she doesn't call him etc

    No wonder I just cut out the crap and hired an escort.
    "Directly after copulation, the devil's laughter is heard" ~Schop.
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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by Faramir View Post
    I agree with a lot of your post, but disagree a bit with what you said in this quote. I do think women fear rejection, all human beings do. In the case of women, they can hide this fear by arguing for "traditional roles" (ie, men should approach).
    Women really don't cope with rejection well. They're conditioned to expect attention and validation, especially if they're young as attractive. There's a lot of field experiments when they've had girls cold approach guys and the girls do not like it, especially when the guy says "no thanks" to the offer of a date. Same with having girls pose as guys on dating apps. They really hate the sense of rejection.
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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    Women really don't cope with rejection well. They're conditioned to expect attention and validation, especially if they're young as attractive. There's a lot of field experiments when they've had girls cold approach guys and the girls do not like it, especially when the guy says "no thanks" to the offer of a date. Same with having girls pose as guys on dating apps. They really hate the sense of rejection.
    Of course. They never had to experience rejections, when men didn't have options in their 20s. Now Men do have options in their 30s and older. It's funny when women just turn 30, and no men are going after them. They just learned that men are ignoring them, as men have re-prioritize themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    A black woman thinks she speaks for "other women that wants to be approached", and that "other women" ruin cold approaching for "other women" when men do it, because women need to stop hating men and allow men to approach women. Many older women, especially classic old fashion women of the 60s, and 70s, think men should cold approach, and thinks that men should take advice from women.

    Taking advice from women???? OH my fucking god. Taking advice from women is like drinking water from the toilet, when you should drinking water from the kitchen sink. And its not the same thing. Taking advice from women is not the same thing from taking advice from men. In my experience, taking advice from women on relationship breeds trouble, and headaches. In fact, I don't take advice from women ON ANYTHING. I just know women are not good at world applications. And theirs so called advice is disastrous.

    By the way, I don't know if this has been posted before. Let me know, please.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp5oA6bNuZY
    Which is it, ladies? Do you want men to approach you in public? Or are you "too busy" with other stuff when you're in public? Because this is a topic of discussion on Reddit right now. And it looks like the majority of responses from women on Reddit lean toward being left alone.

    One wonders how many of those same Reddit women will make TikToks in six months crying about how men don't approach them anymore.

    Don't get me wrong, I can think of a hundred reasons why men should NEVER approach women in public. It's a bad idea for a man to do that 99% of the time, unless you're giga-Chad or something.

    Still, it's amusing that women are working at cross-purposes with each other on this issue. If some BP guy read all that, he'd get mixed messages and conclude that the safest course of action is NOT approaching women in public... to the chagrin of lonely women who wish guys would pay attention to them.

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW View Post
    Which is it, ladies? Do you want men to approach you in public? Or are you "too busy" with other stuff when you're in public? Because this is a topic of discussion on Reddit right now. And it looks like the majority of responses from women on Reddit lean toward being left alone.

    One wonders how many of those same Reddit women will make TikToks in six months crying about how men don't approach them anymore.

    Don't get me wrong, I can think of a hundred reasons why men should NEVER approach women in public. It's a bad idea for a man to do that 99% of the time, unless you're giga-Chad or something.

    Still, it's amusing that women are working at cross-purposes with each other on this issue. If some BP guy read all that, he'd get mixed messages and conclude that the safest course of action is NOT approaching women in public... to the chagrin of lonely women who wish guys would pay attention to them.
    They want both. They want to be approached but only if the man meets their standards. They also want the right to be rude cunts to said man if they feel like it.

    Personally I don't think anyone has the right to just approach someone in public and expect them to go out with them etc. I have never understood that mentality. I don't even like people I don't know talking to me in general let alone having someone try and hit on me.

    Ok, I have done similar but it was a long time ago, like the early 90's. Things were just different then.

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    Re: Why Men Don't Approach YOU! Woman "finally" Understands Why Men Stop Giving AF...

    Quote Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW View Post
    Because this is a topic of discussion on Reddit right now.
    I went to the thread. The title is:

    Women of Reddit. How would you react if a stranger your age approached you and said: “Excuse me, are you busy? Would you like to get a coffee?”

    I don't view the world through a sex filter, and I'm imagining if that was all that was said to me, and I was sitting somewhere in public. I'd probably look up from whatever I was doing and say, "Huh"?

    Of course I'm not the quickest thinker when surprised, to instantly assess the situation. And, like it or not, I always go for the verbal, not the non-verbal. Ha, I could see my reply:

    "I hadn't thought about it."

    At least that response would buy me a few seconds to assess the non-verbal. I'd probably look to see if s/he was dressed in a Starbucks uniform, maybe this was an advertising promotion going on. I mean, who just walks up to anyone and asks that question right out of the blue? Maybe a religious organization looking to chat? Nah, they wouldn't get so personal so quickly.

    Excepting that, I'd need a few seconds to process what was going on. Oh, this is sexual? I'd think, is this a woman or a gay man, or something ambiguous? What's going on here?

    I'd know what my smart-ass self would be thinking: "You've had time to decide you wanted to have coffee with me, but I've had all of 1.5 seconds to decide in return. Give me equal time. Go stand over there so I can scope you out like you did me." LOL

    Or, more likely, in 1.5 seconds:

    "Oh, no thank you." With a cordial smile.

    Yeah, I'm single. LOL.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Or, more likely, in 1.5 seconds:

    "Oh, no thank you." With a cordial smile.

    Yeah, I'm single. LOL.
    The correct answer is "Sorry, no, I'm meeting someone soon." It's ambiguous but has a ring of plausibility to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
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    New users are assigned a blank Snoo avatar. You can then customize your Snoo avatar however you want. Skin, eyes, hair, clothes, hats, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    They're infantile and alienating!
    I mean, it's Reddit.

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    Of course, they want it both. Multiple, well known mechanisms apply here:

    - Briffault's Law combined with gynocentric chivalry
    Being approached and in charge of the (reproductive) situation? Check! Also, the guy has to take a potential NO like a gentleman in honoring her decision to despise his genes aka bIg DiCk EnErGy (everything else is seen as gRaPe).

    - Golden pussy syndrome
    If she gets approached, it can be argued that she is worth more than him, or at least that he wants her more than she wants him. How could be different? Lol. Next, in taking the almost unbearable time sacrifice, in her logic she has to be compensated for this. Women really, really hate it to waist their precious youth, where a woman is the most able to squeeze the money out of the driveling men around her. "eVeRyBoDy LoVeS mE! Tee hee..."

    - Virtue signalling
    A woman is usually only for a very limited time alone somewhere. There is a good chance you will also have to deal with at least one friend of her. If she gets approached, her value immediately rises in her group of chickens: Most beautiful woman in a group = equivalent of an Alpha! In addition to that, her value also rises if she acts mean as reaction to the approach, and can use it to signal "me too" to the world.

    Like in other dumb society games, this one is clearly also not in our favour. Au contraire! It makes you as a man completely powerless. In my experience, when you don't approach, you will get approached. In the end, it is about power... it always is with women...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I went to the thread. The title is:

    Women of Reddit. How would you react if a stranger your age approached you and said: “Excuse me, are you busy? Would you like to get a coffee?”

    I don't view the world through a sex filter, and I'm imagining if that was all that was said to me, and I was sitting somewhere in public. I'd probably look up from whatever I was doing and say, "Huh"?

    Of course I'm not the quickest thinker when surprised, to instantly assess the situation. And, like it or not, I always go for the verbal, not the non-verbal. Ha, I could see my reply:

    "I hadn't thought about it."

    At least that response would buy me a few seconds to assess the non-verbal. I'd probably look to see if s/he was dressed in a Starbucks uniform, maybe this was an advertising promotion going on. I mean, who just walks up to anyone and asks that question right out of the blue? Maybe a religious organization looking to chat? Nah, they wouldn't get so personal so quickly.

    Excepting that, I'd need a few seconds to process what was going on. Oh, this is sexual? I'd think, is this a woman or a gay man, or something ambiguous? What's going on here?

    I'd know what my smart-ass self would be thinking: "You've had time to decide you wanted to have coffee with me, but I've had all of 1.5 seconds to decide in return. Give me equal time. Go stand over there so I can scope you out like you did me." LOL

    Or, more likely, in 1.5 seconds:

    "Oh, no thank you." With a cordial smile.

    Yeah, I'm single. LOL.



    P.S. What's with the avatars in that thread? Do people choose those things or does Reddit assign them? They're infantile and alienating!
    Even when I did strike up the odd chat with a woman or even approached one I was never assuming anything would happen. I would miss the cues all the time, then realize later as I was walking away. I guess I was kind of innocent and nave in an odd way, I just thought it was a conversation but it would appear that all these questions are lead ups to sex. Who knew?!

    So yeah, if a woman approached me and asked if I wanted coffee, I would probably tell them "No thanks, I just had one" or just "No thanks" or I might even think she is just going to get me a coffee and leave me alone lol. I would say non verbal cues might help, but they don't. Not until I am walking away!

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