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    Why did you marry her?

    A few questions for science -- for those of you walking the MGTOW path as a result of a rotten marriage, what caused you to get married in the first place? Religion? Social and family pressure? Did your cupcake go all out in the bedroom? And at the very beginning, did you initiate the relationship, or did the cupcake? We all know marriage is a bad deal -- no one has ever told me, "bro, have you tried marriage? It is fucking awesome." So I'm wondering what makes us think we're exceptions to the general pattern.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    The question isn't for me but I'll attempt to give an answer based on my observation and the conversations I've had with married men over the years. I think it's the "it's how it's always been done around here" mentality. A lot of them just assume that's what men supposed to do at a certain age. The alternative never really occurred to many of these men; the thought that they could remain single or remain in a relationship without the marriage contract never really crossed their minds. In a gynocentric society it's almost a right of passage to marry and start your own family, hence why childless bachelors are sometimes referred to as "incomplete," which is another shaming tactic. According to them, marriage and children equals manhood.

    For others, it's probably the fear of her leaving. We all know women wants marriage, therefore, in order not to lose her most men just fold and go along with the BS. Funny thing is women has completely relinquish traditionalism in practice (is she really a wife, doing her wifely duties?) while they require men to be traditional. Sad thing is most men fall for it.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Long ago I had a coworker who's ex was a real piece of work, owed two different states her child support at the same time cause she'd been caught for welfare fraud. This was after she'd maxed out his cards and hit the road. I asked why he'd married such a skank, and he gave me the same old line we've all heard before; I was young and dumb and full of cum. That was probably the most common answer you'd get in those days.
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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    I wouldn't say I'm MGTOW because of a bad marriage, but I was married, and I initiated a divorce after a few years, so I'm probably half qualified to answer.

    Why did I get married? Two main reasons:

    1. I did not know what I was getting into. I had no red pill awareness at the time whatsoever. I was a blue pill nice guy. So, in a word: ignorance. Ignorance of the realities of marriage, the court system, changes after marriage, etc.

    2. I was in love. This blinded me to the downsides. It caused me to minimize potential challenges (which turned out to be much more formidable than I imagined). We dated for several years before the marriage, so I thought I had a pretty good sense of the pros and cons. I was wrong. My perceptions were heavily skewed by emotion and neurochemistry.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    I used to think if you treated them right, they'd have no reason to leave. What an idiot. In fact, everything I thought back then was wrong, wrong, wrong. Thought is was the end a the world back then, but getting rejected by a bat shit crazy woman eventually proved to be the best thing that ever happened to me. She'd a ground me up in no time.
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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    I once asked my friend why he got married and had kids, his response was "it's just what you do RPK". The poor guy had never considered that there was an alternative to just getting married and having kids. It's virtual programming by society, everything from schools to social media programs boys from an early age that this is just "what you do". It's insidious, it's designed to keep men working hard, meanwhile governments continue to push up the retirement age until soon men will be expect to work until they fucking die.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Quote Originally Posted by _RPK_ View Post
    I once asked my friend why he got married and had kids, his response was "it's just what you do RPK". The poor guy had never considered that there was an alternative to just getting married and having kids. It's virtual programming by society, everything from schools to social media programs boys from an early age that this is just "what you do". It's insidious, it's designed to keep men working hard, meanwhile governments continue to push up the retirement age until soon men will be expect to work until they fucking die.
    I was talking to someone in the pub the other week who I'd not seen for ages. He asked if I'd "found a woman and settled down yet", when I replied he looked at me as if he was seriously concerned about my wellbeing. Funny thing was he'd has endless problems with his ex over being able to see this own child.

    They just secretly hate the fact you made better long term life choices.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _RPK_ View Post
    I once asked my friend why he got married and had kids, his response was "it's just what you do RPK". The poor guy had never considered that there was an alternative to just getting married and having kids. It's virtual programming by society, everything from schools to social media programs boys from an early age that this is just "what you do".
    Yup. I have to admit, that was partly true of me, too, before I got married. I thought, "When you love someone, that's what the relationship eventually progresses to, right? That's where it's 'supposed to' end up, if all is well, right?" And of course, you sense that this is what the woman expects, too. So you both expect it. It's an unspoken assumption, "this is supposed to be where things go."

    I really didn't think too much about it. Which is weird, because I'm an independent thinker in a lot of other ways, opposed to conventional thinking. But not with this. Somehow, when it came to marriage and women, I just went along with the social programming. I think part of that was that I saw others as being the experts; I have always been a "late bloomer" when it came to women and relationships, so I figured, "What do I know?" I disqualified myself. I figured other people had the answers. Bwah hah hah, how wrong I was.

    I'm glad we have the red pill, MGTOW, and the manosphere now. I got married 20 years ago, and that stuff wasn't around.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I'm glad we have the red pill, MGTOW, and the manosphere now. I got married 20 years ago, and that stuff wasn't around.
    I think it's always been around, 20 years ago I was just finishing up high school and I knew women were trouble back then. I saw my friends get cheated on by fickle women, get pumped and dumped by chads all the time in their late teens, but what really made things fly was the internet and people being able to connect ideas.

    The rise of MGTOW is not a surprise to me, MGTOW has always been around in young men, it's just they were unable to reach out to any communities of like minded men before. The internet and the free sharing of ideas, knowledge and what the world is really like is a weapon, a powerful weapon that has brought down political ideologies before. It's often said that television helped destroy the Soviet Union and I have no doubts that unless the enemy at the gates manages to censor all MGTOW from the internet, it will eventually cause havoc among birth rates and the western world.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Quote Originally Posted by _RPK_ View Post
    I once asked my friend why he got married and had kids, his response was "it's just what you do RPK". The poor guy had never considered that there was an alternative to just getting married and having kids. It's virtual programming by society, everything from schools to social media programs boys from an early age that this is just "what you do". It's insidious, it's designed to keep men working hard, meanwhile governments continue to push up the retirement age until soon men will be expect to work until they fucking die.
    I was friends with a guy way back whose girlfriend ran off on him although she left him with the kid as well. He was only 20 or so and not very stable financially or even home wise. No support from family etc.

    He said to me once "I don't understand, I did what I was supposed and it didn't work out" meaning he felt he was supposed to find a woman and have a child. I didn't want to kick him while he was down but even back then (I was same age as him) I thought that was probably the mistake - he did it because he felt he was supposed to. And he did it way too young.

    His girlfriend or ex whatever, would sometimes come back every so often and he would just support her. To quote him again "I think we just do things for them" meaning men just do things for women. Again, I thought, no thanks.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    I actually believed that she would make me happy. Stupid, right?

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acererak View Post
    I actually believed that she would make me happy. Stupid, right?
    Here's my take on it. Dating is or can possibly be fun. Everyone on best behaviour, lots of dates and fun times. You miss each other in between because you aren't in each other's pockets.

    Then you get married (or move in together) and you are always in each others faces. Who knew she took a dump?! Who knew that she can't cook or she's a slob? Do her friends and family really have to come around this often?

    Bills. Why are there so many bills? Why is she still spending money like it doesn't matter? What? She's pregnant?! Already? Cue child, now you work more, more stress. More bullshit. Then the kid comes. Holy fuck! More bills, more expenses, things you never dreamed of before but for some reason you need them! People had kids for centuries without all of this shit but now you have to have them all!

    Yeah, sounds dreamy.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    The short answer: because she acted like a decent human being, until about 7 years into the marriage (which ultimately lasted just over ten). And also, because I was aware of divorce statistics, but I was overly optimistic about beating those. She also hid her true nature pretty well (her own mother warned me about her tendency to become overly worked up about very minor things, but not until after we were married...)

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    I lived for sex and we were having it all the time. I thought I found someone special and was in love.

    Sex stopped almost immediately after marriage. Same old story.

    I stayed for years for my kids. It was misery. Never again.

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    Re: Why did you marry her?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElsinoreBrewery View Post
    I lived for sex and we were having it all the time. I thought I found someone special and was in love.

    Sex stopped almost immediately after marriage. Same old story.

    I stayed for years for my kids. It was misery. Never again.
    Never married but I noticed in my few experiences with women (asides from escorts) was they would be all too keen sexually at first whether it was in person or just chatting online etc. They seemed to want to accommodate almost anything then they would start backing away. I realized it was a shit test and this is how they lure men in.

    Online I would sometimes amuse myself by talking about weird sexual kinks just to gauge their responses and often they were very keen to explore although even online they would start back tracking it after a little while.


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