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    Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Here are some things I have never done in my life:
    1. Cat call a woman.
    2. Grab a woman's ass against her will.
    3. Say rude sexual shit to a woman at work.
    4. Banged a woman who was passed-out drunk.
    5. Banged any woman who wasn't 100 percent consenting.

    I suspect most MGTOW are with me and thus have never done any of this shit. However, if you were to listen to the woke trash or the feminists who worked to get us banned, you would think that most MGTOW men had done every single thing on that list. The truth is most MGTOW men grew up taught to respect women. We were taught to work hard, get in a good-paying profession, and to be a good person. If we did that, we would be worthy of being with a wife who genuinely loves us and supports us emotionally with her companionship. We were taught that a wife would be our loyal ally and companion.

    Instead of that, most of us have been in marriages that were total train wrecks. We've gotten together with women who were coached by feminists to defy and to hate their husbands. If we worked to long and hard to meet the heavy monitory placed on us by women's ever-increasing demands, we were neglecting her and she therefore had license to cheat on us. If we cut our work hours to spend more time with her, we were unattractive because of not earning enough money, and we were clingy. Many of us were thus destroyed by divorce and have had to work hard to rebuild our lives. That's who most MGTOW are. We're just dudes who've had bad experiences via dating and marriage and therefore have chosen to opt out.

    There's who we really are and then there's the straw man version that the feminists have invented. They've concocted an image of some clueless dolt who goes around cat calling and pestering women, grabbing them when he wants and generally being obnoxious. He never succeeds in any career and is a virgin living in his parents' basement insulting people on the Internet.

    That's an absurd distortion that the feminists have dreamed up. But the feminists have proven they have no interest in truth. They simply follow dogma without the use of any reason or facts. Anything that contradicts their dogma is blasphemy. That's why they're so hostile toward MGTOW. The truth supports our position. No open-minded and rational person could possibly look at marriage and dating objectively and conclude that these are anything other than rotten deals for men.

    We get to define who we are, not feminists. That's why I'm excited that this positive MGTOW group exists at goingyourownway.com. I'm looking forward to hearing you guys uplifting life stories about how you build up great lives and businesses, overcoming the wasteland of dating and marriage that most of us have been through. It's exciting to be able to draw a line in the sand and say, “You can't treat me like that any longer.”

    You get to build up your health. You get to build up your wealth. In the process, you get to have a great life of your own choosing. There's no more wife to bitch about your hobbies and tell you they're a waste of time. There's no more loaded gun at your head threatening to destroy you via divorce.

    They dreamed up a straw man about us, but our numbers grew anyway. They tried to force us to shut up via the Reddit ban, but we just moved into better communities. Every attempt to put us down has ended in massive failure. Meanwhile we continue to grow. MGTOW grows in numbers and in quality. I know MGTOWs who have started their own business after finally being free from a nagging wife. Build your lives up to greatness! And don't forget to come in to this forum and share your success with your MGTOW brothers.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Never done any of those 5 things either.

    6/ Never pursued a woman for the purposes of sex only. Oddly enough, I have women present/pursue me for only that.
    7/ Have never treated a woman as unequal. This actually pisses them off because it removes their privileges.
    8/ I don't actually hate women. I am more indifferent.
    9/ Never treated a woman as though she were a whore even if she actually was a whore. Again, ironically, I have encountered many women who would have liked to be treated as such.
    10/Never struck a woman nor do I aim to do so.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Only reason I didn't get plundered in the old days is cause I wasn't even considered worth harvesting. I really was invisible to women. Didn't have a clue how lucky I was. Didn't like it either, what an idiot.
    A working stiff making a living wage was a lot more common then, that's a big part of why I didn't stand out.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Yeah, the anti-MGTOW crowd just select the worst examples of things said on MGTOW forums, then assume those things are representative of all MGTOW. There's a name for that particular type of distortion, but I can't remember it. And then they join it to confirmation bias, so that everything they see gets filtered through that lens. Things that don't fit (like the vast majority of MGTOW) just get ignored or forgotten about, and they seize on small bits that confirm their stereotypes.

    Ironically, these are the same people who are all up in arms about racist and sexist stereotypes and how evil they are. Yet they don't see the operation of those same stereotyping mechanisms in their own mind.

    Oh well. I've learned to just not pay any attention to what they say. I don't think their opinions are worth troubling about, unless that person is in your real life.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Yeah, the anti-MGTOW crowd just select the worst examples of things said on MGTOW forums, then assume those things are representative of all MGTOW. There's a name for that particular type of distortion, but I can't remember it. And then they join it to confirmation bias, so that everything they see gets filtered through that lens. Things that don't fit (like the vast majority of MGTOW) just get ignored or forgotten about, and they seize on small bits that confirm their stereotypes.

    Ironically, these are the same people who are all up in arms about racist and sexist stereotypes and how evil they are. Yet they don't see the operation of those same stereotyping mechanisms in their own mind.

    Oh well. I've learned to just not pay any attention to what they say. I don't think their opinions are worth troubling about, unless that person is in your real life.
    It's cherry picking is what they do. Like you say, they pick the worst examples they can find and use that to represent the whole lifestyle. They also will pick something reasonable that someone said and grossly misinterpret it into something sinister. For example, on the old MGTOW subreddit, I posted that I understood why they used to put women in the stocks for adultery or even flog them in public. I was talking about how they were trying to create a disincentive to engage in hypergamous behavior such as adultery. I was NOT saying that we should have that same policy in modern times. They deliberately take quotes out of context to make them as sinister as possible. They cut out the part where I said I was against recreating that same policy in modern times and that we should instead simply reform divorce laws. I was saying, "Here's why they used to have an extreme policy" while also saying "we should not do that today." But those crooks took it out of context.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Thank you Tig. This thread summarizes perfectly what MGTOW is all about, and the obstacles we're up against. A very solid and informative thread that gives me future talking points, should I find myself in a negative atmosphere.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Though I was underrated in the old days, that's the minor reason I escaped with as little damage as I did. What really saved me was the way they just love stealing someone else's man. When young and unattached, I was a hopeless loser, and no woman who was not desperate wanted anything to do with me. A girls got her pride you know. But had I been teamed up with the worst skank in town, well bitch's only a little better would of been checking me out, sure as the sun comes up in the east. I don't get in myself, but it's true. What's the use in taking some guy away from the town pump? Don't sound like much of an feather in your cap to me, I guess to women, a wins a win.

    Guys used this to trade up sometimes, in fact that how the blue pill world used to roll. The trouble is, with this system it's too easy for a guy to get stuck on the bottom. If a guy got a women pregnant on a one night stand, he might escape. But knock up your girlfriend, and you would very likely find yourself married. That's how it worked back then. Then it was fighting with ex's over the kids while starting over with someone else. About like today, only more guys were toast.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    And don't forget to come in to this forum and share your success with your MGTOW brothers.
    For sure bro. Never done any of those things, although I was lied to by many women and disappointed multiple times. Still, from a satisfaction pov, I have a fairly high N count (maybe full time PUA's in the 100's beat me but who cares about that). Most importantly, I'm financially independent and will never take another 9-5 and i'm in my mid 30's. I think most guys can do what i've done if they're willing to live in a low cost area and don't splurge on pointless things. In the end, according to me atleast, the feminists lost and I won. I'd like more brothers to join the wagon, but if not, I'm not going to lose too much sleep over that either.

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    The truth is most MGTOW men grew up taught to respect women. We were taught to work hard, get in a good-paying profession, and to be a good person. If we did that, we would be worthy of being with a wife who genuinely loves us and supports us emotionally with her companionship. We were taught that a wife would be our loyal ally and companion.
    Yes, "The Disney Dream" that doesn't happen. TRP, knowing female nature helps.

    MGTOW, for the most part are men that have just stepped out of "The Disney Dream" or what ever you want to call it. Unlike the feminists we don't go around openly preaching our beliefs and trying to force them on others. We compare with each other here but for myself I rarely let anyone know or voice my opinions to anyone around me. My actions speak loud enough.

    I see it as, MGTOW is not the opposite of feminism, but as the direct result of the power imbalance that feminism has caused. It's manly or masculine to take calculated risks, but when you know the odds are stacked against you, you will loose at some point in time, and the stakes are high, why even try (again)???

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    Re: Whipping the negative stereotype to build a great life

    Quality post. Likewise I have never done any of the things you mentioned and am nothing like the image of what feminists consider us to be. Generally I get on very well with women

    In fact it does make me laugh the whole 'incel' accusation: I read the intros section from time to time and almost everyone has stories of relationships, hookups and occasionally marriages. Couldn't be further from the truth really. The word has been diluted of all meaning really and is just levelled at anyone who they don't agree with. I think what many fail to recognise is that this community is also quite disparate: some of us are in relationships, some date & hookup, others completely refrain.

    For the most part, I'm only here because it's own of the few places that recognises the absolute clown world we're living in sometimes, particularly in regards to dating and the open man-hating which is now widely acceptable.


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