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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    I usually tell them "Either we're together or you're a ghost to me."

    then I never hear from them.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Haha. Another loser who builds himself up by cutting others down exits stage left. How did so much trash collect when I was gone?
    … ??? … What are you even talking about?

    I gave the OP a genuine reply with the advice to only be upset with himself for simping, because the only thing you can control in life is your own mind and your own actions.

    In the story he told, he got a predictable outcome because his attitude and actions were a certain way.

    I would give any friend that exact same advice and I would any of my friends expect to tell me the same if I would ever behave like that.

    I am not “cutting him down” and “building myself up”. How the hell do you get that out of my brief post??

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    BTW, insulting members is against the rules, but since they're banned and no longer members, I guess it's not...
    I am still a member …

    This is his website and he can do whatever he likes. It’s actually a great demonstration of how the world works. Might makes right.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    So glad we had an "expert" here to correct members here on the "Official MGTOW" way of thinking. No one needs someone to mindlessly hound others when they're sharing from their own life story.
    The post you are replying to here was excellent. Hedon explained very accurately why simping is always a bad idea.

    The only person “mindlessly hounding others” on here is you by calling people trash and losers without even addressing anything they actually wrote.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    Several mistakes here (boggles my mind that men still make these mistakes with women). NEVER EVER EVER EVER invest more than her. Driving a hundred miles to go wine and dine some bitch that's probably banging Tyrone a few blocks away for free is stupid. I would never recommend a LDR but if you really like her one trip to her on the first date, upon which she pays her share of the date (because you already burned it in gas). Second date, she ABSOLUTELY has to be the one to drive to you. Investing your time, money, and energy without asking for equal investment in return is communicating desperation and to her subconscious that you don't value yourself, therefore she can never respect you, which subsequently decreases her attraction for you, hence "let's be friends." This is why women love Tyrone/Chad. Do you think those guys are driving to her or buying her shit? Pisses me off that men can still be this clueless about women. MGTOW has a lot of work to do...

    but then again, we are not a movement. Oh well..
    I can see where Hedon's coming from, he worded his post strongly cause he thought others were screwing up and wanted to get his point across. I won't say he's wrong either.

    But his post was pushy and judgmental, as well as looking down on members he didn't think measured up. The last is what is what done Him. Jag wants a site where the dullest red pill guy we got won't be looked down on. This is not Reptiles Going Their Own Way.

    Being our resident psychopath I'm not sure you'll understand. I liked Hedon, and I like you too Bam. But sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I can see where Hedon's coming from, he worded his post strongly cause he thought others were screwing up and wanted to get his point across. I won't say he's wrong either.

    But his post was pushy and judgmental, as well as looking down on members he didn't think measured up. The last is what is what done Him. Jag wants a site where the dullest red pill guy we got won't be looked down on. This is not Reptiles Going Their Own Way.
    Oh, please!

    Jagrmeister doesn’t give a shit himself how he words things. And I wouldn’t care. He can call me whatever he wants. But then turning around and banning people is just retarded.

    This board is useless if you can’t express yourself without pussyfooting around because some mod thinks you didn’t word something quite right or he just somehow disagrees with you.

    Hedon was clearly not trolling or trying to destroy this message board. Banning a guy like that is just bad, bad moderating.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post



    Hedon was clearly not trolling or trying to destroy this message board. Banning a guy like that is just bad, bad moderating.
    I wouldn't call it trolling either. But Hedon was pushy, and he did look down on people. Just cause you don't see it that way don't mean it didn't happen.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I wouldn't call it trolling either. But Hedon was pushy, and he did look down on people. Just cause you don't see it that way don't mean it didn't happen.
    I want to share a very, very personal story about myself that relates to this discussion and contains a lesson that changed my life and that I will never forget.



    It’s long winded but contains many red pills. So please bare with me here:


    About 25 years ago, when I went to high school I had a girlfriend. When she became my girlfriend she said that she couldn’t believe her luck because all the other girls wanted to be my girlfriend, but I had chosen her. She was head over heals in love. I could sense the butterflies in her stomach. She was ecstatic every time we met. She eventually lost her virginity to me and all we did for about half a year was fuck like rabbits.


    When we had first met I wasn’t that interested in her and hadn’t even noticed that she and her girlfriends had been following me for weeks. During the first months of our little relationship I didn’t have any feelings for her. I was a teenager. I was horny. She was there. Might as well make out with her … I cannot even remember how exactly she had lost her virginity to me because I was on a variety of drugs (weed, alcohol, speed) after partying/vomiting all night. She was madly in love with me and I could do no wrong precisely because I did not give a fuck about her. That’s what made me attractive.


    I remember on Valentines Day a boy from her school (we went to different high schools) brought her a rose. That day she told me with an expression of incredible disgust on her face, how she despised this boy for giving her a rose. I remember being confused and feeling bad for the other guy. Yes, he had basically hit on my girlfriend, but he probably didn’t know any better. I felt genuinely bad for the other kid for being so harshly rejected by my girlfriend. I gave her absolutely nothing that day, but instead I fucked her in the ass. Without a rubber. I had fucked many girls before. Also without a rubber. She liked that …


    After being together for about 9 months I started to develop feelings for her. I had become addicted to the sex and the excitement she had for me. I had never had feelings for any girl I fucked before and it felt good. I started to see her as my exclusive girlfriend, I started to treat her nice and I started to imagine a future with her.


    From that moment on I could feel her losing interest in me and she started to pull away. The sex became awkward and boring. 2 months later she told me she decided she is ‘asexual’ now. Much later I found out that she of course wasn’t asexual at all, but instead was getting every hole filled by one of my stoner-friends.


    Shortly after that she broke up with me. I was devastated. This was the first time in my life I experienced the feeling of heartbreak. Unspeakable agony. I couldn’t handle it at all. At that time I had just graduated high school and I had nothing to do than to smoke weed all day. And that’s what I did … I stopped eating and lost almost 40 pounds. I felt tired all day and became depressed.


    And I hate to admit this now but … I started simping for her. I didn’t want to lose her but the more I tried to hold on to her the more she pushed me away. I stayed her ‘friend’ while she was now getting fucked by other guys. And all the while I hurt inside.


    And then one day, I will never forget that day, I was sitting on her bed, begging her to take me back, I started to break out in tears … She looked at me in utter contempt: “You are a total pussy!” … I will never forget these words.


    Her reaction to my emotional breakdown was just disgust and the sentence “You are a total pussy!” … That’s when I woke from my simping. I walked away and moved on with my life.


    Now, 25 years later, I am infinitely grateful to this little slut. If I would ever met her again I would thank her from the bottom of my heart. She taught me an invaluable lesson that day. She didn’t mince words. She told be that I was a fucking pussy that needs to stop simping.

    And that is one of the things my story has to do with this discussion.

    You have to tell people when they are being stupid simps. You should not sugar coat it or avoid conflict.

    TigPlaze shared his story and wrote this:
    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    …the fact that she totally led you on. When I was driving a hundred miles per date, and paying for everything for our entertainment, what did she think I did that for? She was just one of many, many women who take for granted men's generosity. After all, she wasn't paying for the gas it took to drive that far, and she wasn't paying for any of our entrance tickets or meals.
    He is wrong! This is not the woman’s fault! He was simping and got the expected outcome. He shouldn’t have done that. It needs to be pointed out.

    Females never passionately fuck guys that invest in them. Never! It makes them dryer than the Sahara Desert.

    And no, I am not “putting him down”. We all make mistakes. Even I turned into a pathetic simp 25 years ago. I am helping him to see the obvious.

    Females are not males. They will hate you if you are nice to them. Ignore them and they will love you. Just like my girlfriend 25 years ago. She loved me when I was a filthy, cold, cheating, irresponsible asshole. She hated me when I became a loyal, loving nice guy.

    She wasn’t evil. She was just being a female. And she taught me the invaluable life-lesson not to be a fucking pussy. I will be forever grateful to her!!
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Nice story Bam, good work.

    Many of our members are refugees from other forums where fairness and equality were lacking. Jag also knows the damage that's done when senior members start razoring each other and he don't want either of these things. That's why he's big on respect, he wants his site to be different.

    I don't get around much, but I think Jag's something new. While everyone else is trying to make a buck, Jag don't care. In fact, you couldn't donate if you wanted. Here you pay by following the principles, which means a little courtesy. All he's asking for is a site he can be proud of, not some common internet snake pit.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Had the LJBF line from the last gal, before I went MGTOW. Told her to eat shit. blocked on all fronts. I still see her driving around town sometimes, she sees me, and her facial expression goes from shes having a good day, to god damn it. LOL.
    Me, my day goes on knowing just the sight of me fucked her day up because she couldn't get a orbitor.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Nice story Bam, good work.
    It wasn't work - more like therapy.

    I really needed to relive this experience at this point in my life.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Last time I checked Jag's not a mod. He's our fearless leader can run the place anyway he wants.

    Abdenour, what's the use or point in sassing the boss? If it was an attempt at humor, don't quit your day job.
    For a bunch of MGTOWS we seem to have a lack of understanding regarding authority. This is a FREE forum to enjoy, provided at someone else's expense and moderation. Maybe it's a younger set coming in here, but the bottom line is - follow the rules or be gone. Refresh your understanding of the rules and follow them. I found myself on the precipice of banning, from a drunken comment about commitment. The next day I made sure I corrected things and life went on, but lately I've noticed a lot of immature responses to corrective warnings on here. You are in the company of MEN, act accordingly.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    The way I see it:

    No-one is 'owed' a romantic relationship by another person, simple as that. If you're courting the other person and after some time they decide 'Eh, this isn't working out', they aren't obligated to force themselves to remain in a romantic relationship because the other person invested time and/or money. If you are in a relationship for 20 years and one day just decide you've had enough, you shouldn't be obligated to stay because your partner 'gave you the best years of their life'. You can't force yourself to love and adore someone, you either do or you don't, and quite often even giving someone something can't make that attraction materialize. Prostitutes get paid money but I seriously doubt they love their clients, so I'm not sure why people labor under the delusion that giving material goods to women (or anyone) is going to make them feel affection for you.

    As for why women say "Let's be friends", I suspect they sometimes say it because it's an awkward situation where they want to let the guy down gently, and in other cases they want to keep a beta-orbiter around for goods and services.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by thenamelessone View Post
    ... and quite often even giving someone something can't make that attraction materialize. Prostitutes get paid money but I seriously doubt they love their clients, so I'm not sure why people labor under the delusion that giving material goods to women (or anyone) is going to make them feel affection for you.
    Not "quite often" - always!

    When you give material things to a female you are communicating two things to her:

    1. You are so unattractive and desperate that you have to pay her to be with you.

    2. She's basically a whore who puts out for money.

    This is ALWAYS a bad idea and females despise men who do this.

    The reason there are guys out there doing this is because all they know is the beta-bux side of hypergamy. And since birds of a feather flock together, all their friends are simps too. So they don't know any better.

    I also noticed that explaining this to them is pointless and some get really defensive and angry when you point out to them what they are doing.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser View Post
    For a bunch of MGTOWS we seem to have a lack of understanding regarding authority. This is a FREE forum to enjoy, provided at someone else's expense and moderation. Maybe it's a younger set coming in here, but the bottom line is - follow the rules or be gone. Refresh your understanding of the rules and follow them. I found myself on the precipice of banning, from a drunken comment about commitment. The next day I made sure I corrected things and life went on, but lately I've noticed a lot of immature responses to corrective warnings on here. You are in the company of MEN, act accordingly.
    Yeah, the rules aren't unreasonable in any way here, and we're all subject to them. They didn't exempt me, even as a mod, when I made a comment with some exaggerated-for-comic-effect language that ended up sounding anti-gay. It was a mistake. I apologized, and we moved on. We're trying to avoid a cesspool of mud-slinging and chaos, which, frankly, the original Reddit sub was at times. This is way better than a free-for-all where they allow all kinds of crap like neo-Nazis with their Jew-bashing theories or fanatics who hate Muslims. It's way better to keep stuff polite and focused on MGTOW.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    Not "quite often" - always!

    When you give material things to a female you are communicating two things to her:

    1. You are so unattractive and desperate that you have to pay her to be with you.

    2. She's basically a whore who puts out for money.

    This is ALWAYS a bad idea and females despise men who do this.

    The reason there are guys out there doing this is because all they know is the beta-bux side of hypergamy. And since birds of a feather flock together, all their friends are simps too. So they don't know any better.

    I also noticed that explaining this to them is pointless and some get really defensive and angry when you point out to them what they are doing.
    The one and only reason I ever paid for dates was because it's what was expected. I've always seen having the man pay for everything as unfair and contrary to ideas of gender equality. There's this idea that whoever asks someone out should pay, but that's every convenient given that things are set up so that it's the man who has to pursue. I always thought either going Dutch or trading paying, in other words, I pay for this one, she pays for the next one, I pay for the one after that, etc., would have been more fair. But woman always simply expected for the man to pay for everything, and even did ultra greedy things like order super expensive food.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by thenamelessone View Post
    The way I see it:

    No-one is 'owed' a romantic relationship by another person, simple as that. If you're courting the other person and after some time they decide 'Eh, this isn't working out', they aren't obligated to force themselves to remain in a romantic relationship because the other person invested time and/or money. If you are in a relationship for 20 years and one day just decide you've had enough, you shouldn't be obligated to stay because your partner 'gave you the best years of their life'. You can't force yourself to love and adore someone, you either do or you don't, and quite often even giving someone something can't make that attraction materialize. Prostitutes get paid money but I seriously doubt they love their clients, so I'm not sure why people labor under the delusion that giving material goods to women (or anyone) is going to make them feel affection for you.

    As for why women say "Let's be friends", I suspect they sometimes say it because it's an awkward situation where they want to let the guy down gently, and in other cases they want to keep a beta-orbiter around for goods and services.
    It is not the "Lets be friends..." statement that is the problem. The problem is that it often accompanies the same expectation of free stuff that is usually only included in a romantic relationship. On the 2 or 3 occasions that I have gotten the 'let's be friends..." comment from a woman over the years, my standard response has always been, "Ok. Good. I should probably introduce you to my other friends Frank, Tony, Alan, and Tom. They've been my friends for decades and are all really successful like me...". At this point, their eyes usually light up at the idea of being presented with fresh, high value targets. Then I continue, "But just so we are clear: my friends and I have had an agreement among ourselves for decades that we all pay our own way...". At that point, the disappointment on their faces has been as obvious as a neon sign. I've only made that offer to two or three women in the last 40 years. No woman has ever taken me up on that offer.

    No man would ever need to have it explained to him that he would be expected to pay his own way among his equals. Nor would any man be surprised or disappointed to hear it. It is always women, and only women, who need for their 'equality' to be 'pre-qualified' for them.

    The point that never seems to be raised by either men or women in these discussions is this: If I'm a man with the ability and willingness to pay for dinner and other things for a girl I'm romantically involved with, it is my money and my choice. No one can tell me what I can or should do with my own money. But it's also true that everyone knows that I am ONLY doing this for a woman that I am, or want to be romantically involved with. The woman taking the free stuff knows this as well as anyone. So, if she takes my expendable money with the full knowledge that she has zero interest in a romantic relationship with me, then isn't she stealing by fraud from that woman who actually IS interested in a romantic relationship with me? She is pretending to be someone who gets a benefit that she already knows she has no real intention of being. This is the definition of fraud.

    Setting aside for a moment wether or not this is a good idea, it is still my right to offer, and well within the rights of the woman who is romantically interested in me to accept. No one ever calls out the female "friend" for waiting until AFTER she has received all the free crap to announce that she just wants to be friends. Women make this decision about a man within seconds of meeting him for the first time... long before the first offer of any free stuff is ever made. If she just wants to be friends, that's the correct moment to announce it.
    Last edited by BrainPilot; August 24, 2022 at 2:47 PM.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by BrainPilot View Post
    It is not the "Lets be friends..." statement that is the problem. The problem is that it often accompanies the same expectation of free stuff that is usually only included in a romantic relationship.
    A romantic relationship never includes free stuff. The only thing she might get for free is your dick, even though I had some literally pay me for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    The one and only reason I ever paid for dates was because it's what was expected. I've always seen having the man pay for everything as unfair and contrary to ideas of gender equality. There's this idea that whoever asks someone out should pay, but that's every convenient given that things are set up so that it's the man who has to pursue. I always thought either going Dutch or trading paying, in other words, I pay for this one, she pays for the next one, I pay for the one after that, etc., would have been more fair. But woman always simply expected for the man to pay for everything, and even did ultra greedy things like order super expensive food.
    My reply wasn't directed at you personally and I am just trying to explain the dynamics of what you are describing.

    Females only expect provider guys to pay. If a female expects you to pay for something laugh at her and tell her to get fucked. I had a few occasions in my life where females tried this with me and I just laughed in their face.

    I've also had occasions where I voluntarily bought them something, like a cup if coffee, and every time I could see her disappointment in me that I, the "chad" in her eyes, would do such a thing. Going on "dates" and giving bitches stuff is the best way to insure that they'll never be sexually interested in you. I've actually killed relationships that way on purpose, believe it or not.

    My main point in my replies to your original post is that you were writing that she "led you on" and that you were upset with her. In my opinion this is the wrong way of looking at this.

    The entire purpose of females is to motivate us men to grow and better ourselves. Yes, it hurts when she tells you to just be friends, because she is basically telling you that you are not a man, but she only sees you as a girlfriend. It's humiliating.

    But the totally wrong reaction is to put the blame on her. She is indirectly telling you to stop simping and grow as a person. She was actually helping you!

    Also, the entire concept of a "date" is retarded. In my entire life I've never gotten laid even once by going on a "date". On these "dates" you are basically auditioning to be a beta-bux. It's the biggest turn-off for any female.

    Females have a vivid imagination and they day-dream about dirty sex a lot. None of these fantasies involve some chump taking her on a "date". It usually involves a mysterious, tall stranger buttfucking her in the broom closet. You won't find many romance novels where the hot guy takes her on a date.
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