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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfWmnSh!t View Post
    Even in my Blue pilled days, I never accepted LJBF. I always say it as, OK, so you get some benefits of me becoming an orbitor. (My services, resources, or whatever) but I no longer get the only thing from you that interested me. No thanks.

    I actually recently had this happen. I met this chick who was like 13 yrs younger than me. We smashed the day we met (wasn't even a date.) We continued smashing for a few weeks constantly then out of nowhere she LJBF'd me and I told her I had enough friends and didn't block her, just ignored her.

    She can't understand why I don't want to be her friend... I can't think of any reason to be this woman's friend.

    Women are so delusional about their worth.
    Women expect all the benefits of a relationship for free. They expect us to provide and protect while they go flaunt their shit around town. Nope. They claim we are all equal then they claim they are better than us. They also claim that Alpha/beta shit.

    So I think like this now. Any time a woman asks me for anything the answer is NO! All those "alpha" males you let touch you during your carousel days are the males you chose to provide for and protect you. Go ask them. After all they were better and more attractive in your eyes. So let them be better and more attractive as options for helping you.
    Stay away from women. They will only break your heart.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    My view on this: You want a friend? Get a dog. <-- This is exactly what I would say. NFG
    As MGTOW, resistance to the collective is NOT futile.
    Don't let yourself be assimilated and become a mindless zombie supporting and submitting to any woman.
    They will ultimately destroy you.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Then at some point, I felt her pulling away, and that was frustrating. It was then that she hit me with the "let's be friends speech." I said that that wasn't what I had invested all this time and effort for, and that I would rather simply part. […] When I was driving a hundred miles per date, and paying for everything for our entertainment, …
    You should be upset about yourself for doing all this.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

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    You are clearly smoking crack. No woman will ever follow those rules. IDGAF how many times women say they are strong and independent. They NEED men even if its simps to help them. I don't bother with women at all anymore but if I was "friend zoned" then she'd never hear from me again. Why would I want to be an emotional tampon? She has her girls for that. Why would I want to hear about how she is getting loads blown in her by Pookie or Chad? Get away from me!
    lol that's why I don't have virtually any female friends. The two that I have are very casual online "friends" or most so acquaintances.

    Either way, I don't put much value into those relationships. You shouldn't do permanent things with temporary people. Women are the most temporary people there is

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    You should be upset about yourself for doing all this.
    It was a long time ago before I knew any better.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    It was a long time ago before I knew any better.
    I love it when a man sees the light and humbles himself before it then crosses over!

    It doesn't mater where you're from and how you were deceived, the important thing is crossing over and making mind-slivers a thing of the past!

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    In the beginning, it only ate men, now it's coming for the women and children, and nothing can stop it.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    It was a long time ago before I knew any better.
    We all make mistakes. The important part is to learn from them.

    We can’t change other people, we can only change ourselves.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    Several mistakes here (boggles my mind that men still make these mistakes with women). NEVER EVER EVER EVER invest more than her. Driving a hundred miles to go wine and dine some bitch that's probably banging Tyrone a few blocks away for free is stupid. I would never recommend a LDR but if you really like her one trip to her on the first date, upon which she pays her share of the date (because you already burned it in gas). Second date, she ABSOLUTELY has to be the one to drive to you. Investing your time, money, and energy without asking for equal investment in return is communicating desperation and to her subconscious that you don't value yourself, therefore she can never respect you, which subsequently decreases her attraction for you, hence "let's be friends." This is why women love Tyrone/Chad. Do you think those guys are driving to her or buying her shit? Pisses me off that men can still be this clueless about women. MGTOW has a lot of work to do...

    but then again, we are not a movement. Oh well..
    So glad we had an "expert" here to correct members here on the "Official MGTOW" way of thinking. No one needs someone to mindlessly hound others when they're sharing from their own life story.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    You should be upset about yourself for doing all this.
    Haha. Another loser who builds himself up by cutting others down exits stage left. How did so much trash collect when I was gone?

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by FangBlade View Post
    You shouldn't do permanent things with temporary people. Women are the most temporary people there is
    Ya, I love that quote!!! Thanks.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Haha. Another loser who builds himself up by cutting others down exits stage left. How did so much trash collect when I was gone?
    It's not trash, it's attitudes, some dudes can't make the switch from abused victim (replaying all the abuse one receives) to survivor (one who looks forward to strive, readjust, make better, living in foresight while marginalizing past negative experiences while also cherishing the fond memories).

    They're not trash, they're just dudes that haven't learned how to turn psychological lemons to lemonade.

    As far as my limited contact and trust in women, it has been formed by generational feminism here in feminism's blossom or third waypoint on the feminism's devils' triangle (San Francisco, Toronto, Massachusetts).

    BTW, insulting members is against the rules, but since they're banned and no longer members, I guess it's not...

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    It's not trash, it's attitudes, some dudes can't make the switch from abused victim (replaying all the abuse one receives) to survivor (one who looks forward to strive, readjust, make better, living in foresight while marginalizing past negative experiences while also cherishing the fond memories).

    They're not trash, they're just dudes that haven't learned how to turn psychological lemons to lemonade.

    As far as my limited contact and trust in women, it has been formed by generational feminism here in feminism's blossom or third waypoint on the feminism's devils' triangle (San Francisco, Toronto, Massachusetts).

    BTW, insulting members is against the rules, but since they're banned and no longer members, I guess it's not...
    They are trash and they're in the bin now. I had a chance to go through their history and it's full of self-aggrandizing mockery of other GYOW members for various "transgressions" or another as they deemed fit WHILE Ignoring specific provisions of the Principles, which governs this forum. As I pointed out earlier, Principles calls out defeatism and cynicism. The absolute worst combination is someone who ignores our Principles, yet sees fit to police other members based on their own misguided and cynical worldview. I respect the other mods were more tolerant than me, but I wrote Principles and they are not optional.

    Don't:



    Insult fellow members:There's a difference between disagreeing and being confrontational. This is not Yahoo message boards where 'anything goes'. Chances are there's a way of expressing your opinion or disagreeing with a fellow member that doesn't involve your insulting them, being dismissive, or questioning their integrity. We will remove members based on lack of character because we know that cultivating a thriving MGTOW community means insisting on a certain baseline in conduct amongst membership. Rule applies to all members, but New Members will be on a shorter leash until they prove themselves.

    Don't

    Be negative: we want to graduate members beyond the anger phase of MGTOW. We will not tolerate excessive amounts of cynicism, negativity, defeatism, and hostile indifference. We have the Rant sub-forum for venting.

    It also is very clear that we will not be just another cynical, pessimistic, dumbed-down MGTOW board that engages in mindless "fake hardcore" extremism.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    They are trash and they're in the bin now. I had a chance to go through their history and it's full of self-aggrandizing mockery of other GYOW members for various "transgressions" or another as they deemed fit WHILE Ignoring specific provisions of the Principles, which governs this forum. As I pointed out earlier, Principles calls out defeatism and cynicism. The absolute worst combination is someone who ignores our Principles, yet sees fit to police other members based on their own misguided and cynical worldview. I respect the other mods were more tolerant than me, but I wrote Principles and they are not optional.



    It also is very clear that we will not be just another cynical, pessimistic, dumbed-down MGTOW board that engages in mindless "fake hardcore" extremism.
    Fire and annealing purifies the gold, I understand the intent and agree whole heart, but part of me feels as if we lost the site's "Oscar"...


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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Haha. Another loser who builds himself up by cutting others down exits stage left. How did so much trash collect when I was gone?
    We have senior members who wouldn't give Mother Threasa a break. The less they have to do with women the better they like it, and they are not shy about voicing their opinion. But it's always "I wouldn't do that", or "it never worked for me." They never say or imply we'd be chumps for not seeing things their way. They might think it, but that's ok. I have got away with a lot over the years by being just a little bit diplomatic.

    I was asked my first month as mod if I was a member of the "tone police?" Well, I didn't know we had tone police, and don't want to be one if I don't have to. It does look like the bar has changed some though.

    If you think someone's barking up the wrong tree on something that matters, put a little work into it, don't just open the bomb bay doors. Try to write for the Army of lurkers out there who haven't made up their minds yet, they are the only ones likely to change their opinion on anything important.

    This is speculation on my part, but I figure there's one unwritten principle that's well, unwritten. Maybe nobody knows who Jag is, but when he logs on, he wants to see a site he can be proud of. We don't want echo chambers or for you to be phony, say what you think. But at least now and then, try to take the high road.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    The only response to lets just be friends is

    ok.

    maybe you say

    ok thanks.

    if that fits better based on the past history of you 2.
    anything more or less is way too much reaction and involvement.

    You live your life and if she reaches out you always make sure you don't get the short end of the stick.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Haha. Another loser who builds himself up by cutting others down exits stage left. How did so much trash collect when I was gone?
    Another moderator who builds himself up by cutting other moderators down stays on the stage!!! .... How did so much <censored> collect while I was (and maybe still am) in the Going Your Own Way Doghouse*!!!???

    * AKA GYOD = Getting Your Own Doghouse.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    Another moderator building himself up by cutting other moderators down stays on the stage!!! .... How did so much <censored> collect while I was (and maybe still am) in the Going Your Own Way Doghouse!!!???
    Last time I checked Jag's not a mod. He's our fearless leader can run the place anyway he wants.

    Abdenour, what's the use or point in sassing the boss? If it was an attempt at humor, don't quit your day job.
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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    Another moderator building himself up by cutting other moderators down stays on the stage!!! .... How did so much <censored> collect while I was (and maybe still am) in the Going Your Own Way Doghouse!!!???
    I think I addressed that here: "I respect the other mods were more tolerant than me". And what btw is the Going Your Own Way Doghouse lol

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    And what btw is the Going Your Own Way Doghouse lol
    I edited my post to add a * after Doghouse and to add the following.

    * AKA GYOD = Getting Your Own Doghouse.

    GYOD is where I was (or at least thought I was) the last 7 to 10 years. Having my very insightful comments put under moderation, and having them appear only if and when a moderator approves them.

    I was put into the GYOD 7 to 10 years ago. Not sure when I came out. After I posted today, I thought the post didn't appear, and asked frog to approve it. But, according to him, my post appeared without any intervention from him. So, apparently, I came out some time ago. Not sure when.

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    Re: when "let's be friends" upset you, you weren't being an asshole

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    I edited my post to add a * after Doghouse and to add the following.

    * AKA GYOD = Getting Your Own Doghouse.

    GYOD is where I was (or at least thought I was) the last 7 to 10 years. Having my very insightful comments put under moderation, and having them appear only if and when a moderator approves them.

    I was put into the GYOD 7 to 10 years ago. Not sure when I came out. After I posted today, I thought the post didn't appear, and asked frog to approve it. But, according to him, my post appeared without any intervention from him. So, apparently, I came out some time ago. Not sure when.
    I saw that post, and this one, in moderation at separate times. I approved each one. Your account still shows it's in moderation.
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