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    What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    I was wondering, particularly from you guys in your late 30's-early 50's what dating was like in the 90's and 2000's. Lets say the cutoff date is maybe 2010? 2011? At the very latest. Before social media, before cellphones, before Tinder, before political correctness, when there were still 2 genders, when music was still kicking ass (at least up until the late 00's). What was it like for your average 4-6 guy? Was it easier for him to hook up with a 7-9 back in the day before shit went south to the point it is now? I have a great fondness for the 90's and 2000's. Both decades had a lot of cool shit in them. I'm very envious of you because I never got to experience the prime dating scene.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by RenaiZance View Post
    I was wondering, particularly from you guys in your late 30's-early 50's what dating was like in the 90's and 2000's. Lets say the cutoff date is maybe 2010? 2011? At the very latest. Before social media, before cellphones, before Tinder, before political correctness, when there were still 2 genders, when music was still kicking ass (at least up until the late 00's). What was it like for your average 4-6 guy? Was it easier for him to hook up with a 7-9 back in the day before shit went south to the point it is now? I have a great fondness for the 90's and 2000's. Both decades had a lot of cool shit in them. I'm very envious of you because I never got to experience the prime dating scene.
    I dated not just pre- social media, but pre-Internet. I can tell you that women from the 80s and early 90s were every bit as greedy and hypergamous as women today. Dating was already a money-soak black hole, and women TOTALLY judged men by how much money they make, just like today. There were no dating apps, but there were dating phone services where you would subscribe, and then post an ad, describing yourself and women would do the same. The women couldn't see which dudes looked like chads, so they had extra steps to find the chads to fuck and the beta dudes to exploit for money. I honestly don't think today's women are worse than women of those decades. They just have some technology to exploit men that they didn't have before. Feminism was already a lunatic asylum in the 80s and 90s, but maybe not quite AS nuts. They weren't screaming "rape culture" and there was no "metoo," but there was feminist propaganda class in college, and women already dominated colleges. In feminist propaganda class, you learned that "every man is a potential rapist." They were already saying that in 1985 when I had that class.

    There wasn't the fanaticism of "70 genders" yet. There was a push to be more fair toward gay people, and I honestly think that was at a reasonable level back then. The push was to let them marry and to not stereotype them. Nowadays, they make absurd claims that every heterosexual person is super privileged and has latent bigotry toward gays. What a crock of shit! There also weren't people claiming that if you were non-trans, you were some kind of bigot if you didn't want to date a trans person. And I say "non-trans" like we would say it back then. I refuse to use their bullshit, put-down new term "cis".

    Women were already screaming about "objectification" way back then, as if a man were doing something wrong by being attracted to pretty women and not to ugly ones. Dating had also not gotten as insanely expensive as it has nowadays. It was considered normal and even preferable to just meet for a less-expensive lunch rather than a top-notch dinner if you didn't know the person.

    In short, a lot of stuff was already really shitty for men even back then. Since then women have used technology to make things even shittier for men, and they've piled on to feminism's fanaticism, a fanaticism that has definitely gotten worse.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Let's see, I'd ask them out, they'd say they have to wash their hair, then I'd find they pulled a train later.

    They got a little nutty when the pill first came out, that was a big one. Still, it was the same old story, higher ranking guys got most of the benefits. They say the summer of love (1967) was really something too. But that was a California, or at least a city thing. It would be another five years before that crap would filter down to the sticks. By then I was too old for teenagers. My timing was always bad. But it was really good for a lot a guys.
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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Dating pre-internet was a pain.

    Rejection on-line might be a bummer but at least itís relatively anonymous. Back in the day if you got rejected all your mates knew about it and gave you flack. But hey, a bit of banter is O.K. too.

    Trans (or Tranny) back then meant Transvestite Ė a cross-dresser: men dressing as women. To my recollection there was no correlation to trans-genderism but maybe I was missing the point. There were some straight guys that, for some reason unknown to me, liked to dress in womenís clothing.

    The major difference to me is that back in the day you actually had to talk to people. You got to interpret their facial expressions and body language. It was a personal interaction.

    On-line dating seems to dispense with all this. It seems to me that itís far easier to present a persona that is, shall we say, a complete and utter lie.

    Dating pre-internet was a pain, but at least you got to see them (un-photoshopped or pics from when they were younger) and how they interacted with people in real life and could decide if you were interested accordingly.

    Still, people change. The woman you date is not the woman you end up married to.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Dating pre-internet was a pain.

    Rejection on-line might be a bummer but at least it’s relatively anonymous. Back in the day if you got rejected all your mates knew about it and gave you flack. But hey, a bit of banter is O.K. too.

    Trans (or Tranny) back then meant Transvestite – a cross-dresser: men dressing as women. To my recollection there was no correlation to trans-genderism but maybe I was missing the point. There were some straight guys that, for some reason unknown to me, liked to dress in women’s clothing.

    The major difference to me is that back in the day you actually had to talk to people. You got to interpret their facial expressions and body language. It was a personal interaction.

    On-line dating seems to dispense with all this. It seems to me that it’s far easier to present a persona that is, shall we say, a complete and utter lie.

    Dating pre-internet was a pain, but at least you got to see them (un-photoshopped or pics from when they were younger) and how they interacted with people in real life and could decide if you were interested accordingly.

    Still, people change. The woman you date is not the woman you end up married to.
    This pretty much jives with my experiences. Did you find that back then women were just as greedy as they are now? I've always felt that a woman's number 1 priority was how much money a man makes. Except for when I dated very young, we're talking high school, dating has always been like a financial interrogation session. It has always seemed like the whole point of dating (from a woman's POV) was to find out how much money and assets he has, and not a single one gave a flying fuck about you as a human being. A woman could claim to be madly in love with a man, to have found her "soul mate" (whatever the fuck that is), but the instant he lost his access to wealth, she would go totally ice cold on him.

    To me it seems that women dating is all about money, and it's been that way for a very long time. And this whole time, I've felt total disgust for that kind of greed. My own view is that anyone who dates someone for money is a disgusting, greedy, and despicable human being. That's what I think of most women. And I think women have been like that for a long time. They're just more hypocritical today since they claim to be independent and equal. What a crock. They're a bunch of users, and they HATE equality. They're out for enriching themselves at men's expense, but they call that "equality." They make a mockery of that word.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Did you find that back then women were just as greedy as they are now? I've always felt that a woman's number 1 priority was how much money a man makes.
    Absolutely. They just didnít have the reach they do now. They were limited to who they met in real life and so expectations were less.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Except for when I dated very young, we're talking high school, dating has always been like a financial interrogation session. It has always seemed like the whole point of dating (from a woman's POV) was to find out how much money and assets he has, and not a single one gave a flying fuck about you as a human being. A woman could claim to be madly in love with a man, to have found her "soul mate" (whatever the fuck that is), but the instant he lost his access to wealth, she would go totally ice cold on him.

    To me it seems that women dating is all about money, and it's been that way for a very long time. And this whole time, I've felt total disgust for that kind of greed. My own view is that anyone who dates someone for money is a disgusting, greedy, and despicable human being. That's what I think of most women. And I think women have been like that for a long time. They're just more hypocritical today since they claim to be independent and equal. What a crock. They're a bunch of users, and they HATE equality. They're out for enriching themselves at men's expense, but they call that "equality." They make a mockery of that word.
    Man, I couldnít agree more.

    With regards enriching themselves at menís expense, I must respectfully disagree. Theyíre out to enrich themselves at ANYONEíS expense, be it male or female. They are the very essence of egotism. Itís an individual thing with them. They (women) are just as likely to turn on other women, if not more so, than turn on men.

    Seeking equality is just a term they use to oppress. Legally they are already more entitled than men.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    I couldn't say, because in my 39 years and 2 1/2 months I never once dated. I'm not interested.

    If dating is anything like finding a new friend, I did that 19 years ago and I didn't need a computer or a smartphone. In fact, I got off the computer (I was downloading Resident Evil music) went to a local carnival and met my best friend at a quarter push machine where we started talking nicely to each other and I invited him to my house the next day. 19 years of brotherhood and we both live with our parents, thinking about finding a place together when we both raise enough money. Trouble is, we're both not working and living on disability.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Here's a line from a well known pre-2000 commentary about dating:

    "To be most successful, men must belong to one of the better fraternities, be prominent in activities, have a copious supply of spending money, be well dressed, smooth in manners, dance well, and have access to an automobile.


    The year this was written: 1937

    And also this: "Many yearned for simpler times"

    The more things change, the more they stay the same..

    Personally, I happened to reside during my early dating years (80's) in a part of the US dominated by a fundamentalist religion, so it was a weird scene. Among my age group, the church members would suddenly announce engagements after very little dating. It was about as close as an organization could get to arranged marriage without it being explicitly stated. So it was really strange for us non-members of the church. There was so much pressure to marry young it kind of saturated the whole atmosphere. We'd date, but it's hanging over our heads that it was typically a very short process before being expected to march down the chutes. And that church didn't say marriage was till death, it was for all eternity. Just thinking about that shit made my developing MGTOWish head spin..


    Maybe some of that external pressure is lessened now, but I can see how the younger people have a whole different shit-show to deal with..

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    I was born in the early 70's back then it was still drummed into us that women didn't really like sex and only did it to appease their husbands. I noticed quite young that trying to appeal to a woman was nothing short of bribery and placating her ego.

    They were basically the same as they are now. If you were good looking or wealthy they would throw themselves at you, if not you had to try harder.

    That would be the main difference really. In the internet age it is all about looks and that is it. You are judged solely by your picture. Back in the day if you were a good talker or had a presence about you, you could charm your way through but that only works in person. Things like tone of voice, the way you carry yourself, facial expressions, humour etc really don't carry over too well online.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    The Rational male said something along the lines of "that Amish county good girl is just as hypergamous as the club slut you nailed last night".
    Women were the same but technology wasn't around to enable the worst of their behaviour.

    The 3 day rule - Get a woman's phone number Saturday night, you would leave it until Tuesday to call her. Today that women gets dozens of other offers via social media and dating apps during that time.
    Married people cheated but it was much harder when the average couple had no internet, one landline phone and of course no social media to initiate the cheating in the first place.

    On the flip side there was no red pill community like this to learn female nature, most men like myself took women at face value, got chewed up and spat out on a regular basis.
    If I'd been born 25 years earlier and been in the same situation by my 40s I'd either be drinking myself into oblivion with no direction in life or settled down with a single mother.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    I was born in the early 70's back then it was still drummed into us that women didn't really like sex and only did it to appease their husbands. I noticed quite young that trying to appeal to a woman was nothing short of bribery and placating her ego.

    They were basically the same as they are now. If you were good looking or wealthy they would throw themselves at you, if not you had to try harder.

    That would be the main difference really. In the internet age it is all about looks and that is it. You are judged solely by your picture. Back in the day if you were a good talker or had a presence about you, you could charm your way through but that only works in person. Things like tone of voice, the way you carry yourself, facial expressions, humour etc really don't carry over too well online.
    I learned early on that women are like cats, when they want attention that's all that's important, when a man wants attention, it's the least of her concerns. Same as sex, when they want it or none at all, controlling to say the least. I learned by hardening and tempering, when they're deprived of both attention and or sex, it's a deal breaker and they take their tent and go somewhere else.

    Female nature can't be more unequal, unjust, or unfair. The only equity I found was turning their antics on them by using sovereignty and solidarity to drop them off a mental cliff.

    It's worse than anything a man can do that's physical, we simply show them their true worth.

    I went MGTOW as part of a humanitarian mission for myself and for the sake of today's modern unwanted women, no more stinging, no more pain, no more mental gymnastics, no more mental exhaustion, we live in peace, apart.
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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    The Rational male said something .... On the flip side there was no red pill community like this to learn female nature, most men like myself took women at face value, got chewed up and spat out on a regular basis.
    If I'd been born 25 years earlier and been in the same situation by my 40s I'd either be drinking myself into oblivion with no direction in life or settled down with a single mother.
    That's exactly it. I felt all alone as if I were the only one who had such hassles just finding a damn girlfriend. I actually had the advantage of being quite handsome and being from a family of wealth, but I STILL had hassles. I was naive enough to believe the feminist propaganda that they were only about achieving equality. There were no online manuals about how to date better. There were no online discussion groups explaining female instincts, especially hypergamy and Briffault's law. I did occasionally get the sense that other dude's were just as disgusted and frustrated as I was, but I never really put it all together. I remember in a biology lecture hall full of about 200 students, the instructor was going over mating habits in the wild, explaining that it was all on the male to convince the female to mate. Some species have these elaborate dances that the male has to do, and if he makes a single wrong move, she literally bites his head off. Numerous men in that huge room kept scoffing and saying under their breath, "No kidding."

    But for years I thought it must be me. After all there are about 50% women and 50% men. I had no idea of the 80/20 rule, but that makes perfect sense now. When the Internet came along, I thought it was going to be a game changer. I had thought that I was just finding the wrong women. Somehow I had this terrible luck of only finding horribly greedy women who totally judged men based on the money they make. I was just finding bad women because I was sure most women weren't like that. The completely selfless and honorable feminists had assured me that they only wanted equality. Equality would have meant the end of both men's and women's gender roles. HAH! Women are only forward-thinking or "progressive" when it benefits them. For dating, old-fashioned 1950s-style values benefit them, so they're for that. In other words, a woman should be allowed to pursue a high-paying career like a doctor or a lawyer, but she'll still expect a man to earn more and she'll still expect a man to pay 100 percent of the dating and then 100 percent of the expenses when married. If he doesn't, if she ends up splitting the bill with him, she'll resent him. She can do all this and have no earthly clue about her sheer hypocrisy.

    And some men are STILL making excuses for women's obscene hypocrisy. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Then after women and feminists have made the dating world a total quagmire and disaster for men, they're shocked that some men are choosing to opt out. The even brand us as misogynists for choosing to control our own lives. It would be like some dude at a chess tournament, but they create a rule that he has to play without a queen and without any rooks. Meanwhile his opponents each get three queens. Any sane person would say, "Fuck this rigged game; I'm out," then they would all jeer at him, "Loser, misogynist." It's absurd.

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    That's exactly it. I felt all alone as if I were the only one who had such hassles just finding a damn girlfriend. I actually had the advantage of being quite handsome and being from a family of wealth, but I STILL had hassles. I was naive enough to believe the feminist propaganda that they were only about achieving equality. There were no online manuals about how to date better. There were no online discussion groups explaining female instincts, especially hypergamy and Briffault's law. I did occasionally get the sense that other dude's were just as disgusted and frustrated as I was, but I never really put it all together. I remember in a biology lecture hall full of about 200 students, the instructor was going over mating habits in the wild, explaining that it was all on the male to convince the female to mate. Some species have these elaborate dances that the male has to do, and if he makes a single wrong move, she literally bites his head off. Numerous men in that huge room kept scoffing and saying under their breath, "No kidding."

    But for years I thought it must be me. After all there are about 50% women and 50% men. I had no idea of the 80/20 rule, but that makes perfect sense now. When the Internet came along, I thought it was going to be a game changer. I had thought that I was just finding the wrong women. Somehow I had this terrible luck of only finding horribly greedy women who totally judged men based on the money they make. I was just finding bad women because I was sure most women weren't like that. The completely selfless and honorable feminists had assured me that they only wanted equality. Equality would have meant the end of both men's and women's gender roles. HAH! Women are only forward-thinking or "progressive" when it benefits them. For dating, old-fashioned 1950s-style values benefit them, so they're for that. In other words, a woman should be allowed to pursue a high-paying career like a doctor or a lawyer, but she'll still expect a man to earn more and she'll still expect a man to pay 100 percent of the dating and then 100 percent of the expenses when married. If he doesn't, if she ends up splitting the bill with him, she'll resent him. She can do all this and have no earthly clue about her sheer hypocrisy.

    And some men are STILL making excuses for women's obscene hypocrisy. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Then after women and feminists have made the dating world a total quagmire and disaster for men, they're shocked that some men are choosing to opt out. The even brand us as misogynists for choosing to control our own lives. It would be like some dude at a chess tournament, but they create a rule that he has to play without a queen and without any rooks. Meanwhile his opponents each get three queens. Any sane person would say, "Fuck this rigged game; I'm out," then they would all jeer at him, "Loser, misogynist." It's absurd.
    Amen to everything you've said here. It was a similar situation for me. Trying to piece together an understanding of what's going on in blue pill society is an extreme challenge. I think some of us were more perceptive at a young age of the bullshit, lies, and delusions driving their "reality". You hear fantasies about fun dating, finding a soulmate, signing the papers and living happily ever ever. People lie to each and put on a happy face. But you look closely and there's wreckage everywhere. I saw it in my family. Grandmother talking about "women's lib". My mother sitting around as a housewife doing nothing all day, while my father just get miserable over the years. Scratch the surface of other families and it was the same thing. They all put on a show for each other. Then they want you to join them in their misery.. No thanks.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Back in the day if a woman gave you a legit phone number your chances were very good you would end up on a date. Today? You have to do follow up texts to ensure she even remembers your name. Having to rely on social media is an uphill climb for any man.

    So basically more work and more competition compared to back in the day just to enter the door into the dating market. Technology and social media has easily tipped the scales toward women and this is why social media is the domain of women.

    A lot of young guys ask me what they can do to improve their chances with dating women in this current world. I bluntly tell them that you are better off focusing on career or personal goals first. But if they insist I tell them that you can't play ball in a woman's sphere of dominance aka social media.

    Basically you bring women into your frame and your realm which is away from social media dependence. Some PUAs call pull it off by mirroring female tendencies and by using social media to their advantages. But I ask these men do you really want to go down that route or just focus on being your true 100% self?

    The satisfaction that comes from being your true 100% self is far greater than momentary attention from social media.

    For young men they struggle with this because they are bombarded with social media. Any older man I know whether full blown mgtow, PUA, or blue piller they will not use social media to "socialize". They will use it to scour information, logistics, and communicate directly.

    Direct communication is what young men should follow. Ironically most young women are not exposed to men being direct communicators this way and that is how to stand out from the rest of the crowd. Because in the end it is a numbers game and it always has been pre internet age and current internet age.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    I'm old, dated during the mid 1960s....TOTALLY different world back then, at least in high school, I don't know about the dopers in college.

    First date you had to dress nice..VERY nice...and you were expected to meet her parents before you left when you picked her up. Respect for her parents was an absolute must...'yes ma'am' and 'yes sir' were required. Her father usually said something like, "Have her home by 11 if you ever want to take her out again," and he meant it. The car had to be clean and you were expected to open her door for her...it was an unwritten law.

    A friend of mine showed up for a second date with a girl he liked, must of been around 1966. I lived in South Florida and at that time sandals were in style, so he wore sandals for the second date, no socks of course. He went to the front door to pick her up and her father told him to go home and come back tomorrow night, dressed properly. He did...

    Also, at 18 almost all of them were virgins, that's one of the reasons people married younger then...you had to put a ring on it to get laid. Like I said...it was a different world back then.
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    Another phenomenon you saw back in the pub and bar days prior internet was towards closing time you would have the women that couldn't pick up left. A lot of guys would go at that time to score the stragglers! Only the better looking women would get hit on usually.

    Now with the internet guys just message en masse not caring and not even expecting to get a response. Women get their attention hit and are happy with that.


    Originally Posted by mgtower
    I learned early on that women are like cats, when they want attention that's all that's important, when a man wants attention, it's the least of her concerns. Same as sex, when they want it or none at all, controlling to say the least. I learned by hardening and tempering, when they're deprived of both attention and or sex, it's a deal breaker and they take their tent and go somewhere else.

    Female nature can't be more unequal, unjust, or unfair. The only equity I found was turning their antics on them by using sovereignty and solidarity to drop them off a mental cliff.

    It's worse than anything a man can do that's physical, we simply show them their true worth.

    I went MGTOW as part of a humanitarian mission for myself and for the sake of today's modern unwanted women, no more stinging, no more pain, no more mental gymnastics, no more mental exhaustion, we live in peace, apart.



    Yeah I noticed that too. The "Feminine mystique" thing is bullshit and a way of romanticizing narcissism and mental illness. I also noticed that even when women were the ones wanting sex many times they would still want something for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duplin27852 View Post
    I'm old, dated during the mid 1960s....TOTALLY different world back then, at least in high school, not the dopers in college.

    First date you had to dress nice..VERY nice...and you were expected to meet her parents before you left when you picked her up. Respect for her parents was an absolute must...yes ma'am and yes sir was required. Her father usually said something like, "Have her home by 11 if you ever want to take her out again," and he meant it. The car had to be clean and you were expected to open her door for her...it was an unwritten law.

    A friend of mine showed up for a second date with a girl he liked, must of been around 1966. I lived in South Florida and at that time sandals were in style, so he wore sandals for the second date, no socks of course, went to the front door to pick her up and her father told him go home and come back tomorrow night, dressed properly. He did...

    Like I said...it was different world back then.
    One of the most common stories I have heard from elderly married couples is how the man would keep asking the woman out. Even creating situations to "bump into her" somewhere. The woman would just keep saying No, basically testing his resolve and commitment. All of that would be considered harassment and stalking now. I think some women still like the idea of being chased but any sensible guy is going to walk away once he gets rejected. Ok, really sensible men don't bother at all.

    There was still some of that old school stuff in the 80's but by the 90's when I became an adult it had died off. I recall talking to one older bloke in a pub and he told me "In the 80's we still humored them about feminism and being treated like equals. Now in the 90's we just tell them to get fucked" I didn't realize it at the time but looking back he was basically a MGTOW.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Quote Originally Posted by RenaiZance View Post
    I was wondering, particularly from you guys in your late 30's-early 50's what dating was like in the 90's and 2000's. Lets say the cutoff date is maybe 2010? 2011? At the very latest. Before social media, before cellphones, before Tinder, before political correctness, when there were still 2 genders, when music was still kicking ass (at least up until the late 00's). What was it like for your average 4-6 guy? Was it easier for him to hook up with a 7-9 back in the day before shit went south to the point it is now? I have a great fondness for the 90's and 2000's. Both decades had a lot of cool shit in them. I'm very envious of you because I never got to experience the prime dating scene.
    Millennial here. I was in high school in the late Nineties and in college during the early 2000's. So, hooking up in college was ridiculously easy. War story for you. In the commons at my college one day, I saw a girl wearing pants that made her look smoking hot. So, I went over, introduced myself, complimented her pants, I told her (didn't "ask" her) to come sit with me and my friends (but rly, come sit with ME) when she got finished up with whatever she was doing, she joined us a little while later, blah blah blah, we were undressed back in my place a few hours later.

    I didn't even know her last name.

    A date was actually a lot harder to come by than a hook up in college. The same semester that I bagged the pants girl I also slept with some other girls too. All of them were ready for it when I was. But a date? Somehow, I got the idea that most of those college girls wouldn't have known what to do with that. I don't even know what they would've said if I asked. "I guess if you want to get dinner or something, sure. But we're going to fuck, right?"

    (In retrospect, the red pill was staring me right in the face but somehow I missed it because I was a real dumbass back then)

    So yes, it was definitely easier (for me, anyway) to hook up with random girls than it was to get a date with them. But I don't think I was too interested in dating at that time anyway. I was going through something like a minor depression or whatever at the time, the story is all in my Intro thread from my first post, and so I didn't think twice about going full Dark Triad on coeds to get laid.

    As for the rest, I say do not mourn the past*. What we see today is female nature exposed. The way women are now is the way they were back then. The difference is that back then, we didn't have the red pill, the manosphere and other things to clue us in on what the deal with women is. Social media have ripped women's collective mask off. But what the mask conceals has always been who women are. We can just see it openly now whereas we couldn't before.

    Pre-social network/pre-dating app women were just as driven by their emotions, their hypergamy and the Feminine Imperative as they are now. Nothing has changed, except the technology.

    * As a child of the Nineties, I do admit that I still prefer those fashions for women compared to today's shit beauty standards. So, I mourn THAT part of the past. Which proves I'm a total hypocrite, but what can you do, right?

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Basically friends set you up. meet at a party etc... I worked at a Supermarket and had no problems just asking for a phone number. I would wait two days and call. First date was often a casual meal, rarely spent more than $20. If I liked her, she was a GF and come over on weekends. Often there is a midweek date also. Once I slept with her a couple of times, I felt committed and let her mark her territory...get this, they cooked and cleaned in return for marking her territory

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    Amen to everything you've said here. It was a similar situation for me. Trying to piece together an understanding of what's going on in blue pill society is an extreme challenge. I think some of us were more perceptive at a young age of the bullshit, lies, and delusions driving their "reality". You hear fantasies about fun dating, finding a soulmate, signing the papers and living happily ever ever. People lie to each and put on a happy face. But you look closely and there's wreckage everywhere. I saw it in my family. Grandmother talking about "women's lib". My mother sitting around as a housewife doing nothing all day, while my father just get miserable over the years. Scratch the surface of other families and it was the same thing. They all put on a show for each other. Then they want you to join them in their misery.. No thanks.
    I grew up in a miserable household as well and that was the thing that opened my eyes the most to the bullshit of it all. People who haven't seen through the BS and who live within families who keep pretending will never get it. You basically reflect to them their own misery by your lifestyle and you're letting them know that you're not going to be dragged into it. That's why it's impossible to convince people to go MGTOW or "preach" to them about it. Haters will ALWAYS hate.

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    Re: What was dating like pre-Social Media?

    Just thinking back to my teen years in the 80's and I doubt this happens anymore but thought it was worthy for comparison sake. Back then teen girls would often date older men. And I mean actual men! It was not uncommon for a 16 year old girl to have a 20 plus year old boyfriend who had a real job and money to burn, a car etc.

    You would have to be a pretty good looking/successful in some way 16 year old boy to compete with that.

    It sounds amazing now but at the time no one really blinked at it. A 16 y.o girl I had a crush on was dating a 23 year old guy and was madly in love with him. I knew I was never going to compete with his job, freedom, car etc. There were rumors about one of the younger male gym teachers being in a relationship with a female student as well.

    We also had a lot of female teachers who would wear provocative clothing it was like they were dressing for a night out.

    Things were very different.


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