Thread: What are your thoughts on therapy?

You don't have to buy Vitamin D for depression - just go out and lay in the sun for 30 minutes every day when the sun is strong. Which is what my old doctor used to recommend to me - downside is that it makes your skin look old. I do the health protocol - figure $8 per month for a 30 packet box of E'mergency Vitamin C which I have taken for years plus another $6 for the Walmart Vitamin D and K combo is cheap health insurance plus some daily Fish oil for the heart - you can get that by eating salmon or a can of sardines in olive oil or fish oil every day. I imagine that the typical herd of Americans who only read one book a year have no clue about their health - they are waiting for their diabetes or heart attack without knowing it - which is why they do not supplement with vitamins. I haven't gone to the hospital for serious health problems for years - but I take vitamins and eat real food - not fried foods like hamburgers, fries etc to guard my health plus try to walk a mile every day. If you always feel sick and are fat, I'm guessing you will also feel depressed, so work on your health! Quick tip: If you have ED, start taking Vitamin K and Nattokinase Serrapeptase to clean out your arteries and thin your blood - you likely have not just ED but coronary heart disease. Watch some Youtube videos on these supplements to get up to speed.

Originally Posted by Brock

I take 1000 IU per day. I did read a book that recommended taking a similar amount as you mention. Honestly whenever I hear of alternative medicine, I am a bit skeptical and tend to think "scam" as if someone is trying to sell a book or get people to watch their youtube videos. If it really works, why doesn't everyone do it? Have you tried it and found that it works for you?

I usually try not to talk too much about therapy.

if you think it’ll work for you, go for it.

100% of it is stoicism. Which means learning to control your emotions. So be stoic, and therapy is pointless.

it’s designed, and run, by women, which is fine, but if you’re not feminine brained it won’t do much.

But hey, if it does something for you, try it out.

Not my bag personally.

Originally Posted by Brock

It's not something I've considered before as I wouldn't say I'm depressed. Many people swear by it. Would you say that there is much (if any) benefit to therapy in most cases or if it's more of a racket to make the insurance companies more money?

Therapy is good in extreme circumstances but beyond that most times it is not necessary. Best therapy for a man is to have goals and discipline and when those two work in tandem the rest of the problems in the world are trivial or lessened.

Also, if you have enough life experiences and wisdom you begin to realize as you become older that receiving therapy from someone less versed on life is laughable.

At that point you can start to give out therapy to others simply because of your wisdom and life experiences.

The phantoms of the mind more often than not are a bigger nemesis to the downfall of many people than the real problems we face day to day in the real world.

Originally Posted by CPRA

You don't have to buy Vitamin D for depression - just go out and lay in the sun for 30 minutes every day when the sun is strong.

If only I had sunshine every day. Seems there is little sun for at least 6 months around here, so I have to resort to supplementation.

Originally Posted by CPRA

Which is what my old doctor used to recommend to me - downside is that it makes your skin look old. I do the health protocol - figure $8 per month for a 30 packet box of E'mergency Vitamin C which I have taken for years plus another $6 for the Walmart Vitamin D and K combo is cheap health insurance plus some daily Fish oil for the heart - you can get that by eating salmon or a can of sardines in olive oil or fish oil every day.

I have been taking fish oil capsules since being recommended by my doc. My HDL was too low so it didn't really help much with that. I gained some weight before starting to lose it and I guess the weight gain did not help with that either.

Originally Posted by CPRA

I imagine that the typical herd of Americans who only read one book a year have no clue about their health - they are waiting for their diabetes or heart attack without knowing it - which is why they do not supplement with vitamins. I haven't gone to the hospital for serious health problems for years - but I take vitamins and eat real food - not fried foods like hamburgers, fries etc to guard my health plus try to walk a mile every day. If you always feel sick and are fat, I'm guessing you will also feel depressed, so work on your health! Quick tip: If you have ED, start taking Vitamin K and Nattokinase Serrapeptase to clean out your arteries and thin your blood - you likely have not just ED but coronary heart disease. Watch some Youtube videos on these supplements to get up to speed.

I'll eat junk in moderation, once a week will have something like pizza or hamburgers/frieds or the like along with some type of dessert. I'm not sure it's necessary to eliminate these foods completely because I find that I really enjoy eating this junk and look forward to that one cheat meal per week. I don't drink/smoke/chase women so I guess that is my vice. Although I will admit that sometimes I splurge and take that cheat meal too far....for example, last night I have almost a whole frozen pizza and too many cookies.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

I usually try not to talk too much about therapy.

if you think it’ll work for you, go for it.


100% of it is stoicism. Which means learning to control your emotions. So be stoic, and therapy is pointless.


it’s designed, and run, by women, which is fine, but if you’re not feminine brained it won’t do much.


But hey, if it does something for you, try it out.


Not my bag personally.

So this thread links to a separate thread on therapy you started awhile back.

I get your reasons. I'm not sure it would really work for me either.

I will admit, I did one coaching session awhile back. The guy was pretty good and knew his stuff. I took notes when he gave advice but I could get similar advice from doing my own research (books, videos, etc). He didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know. It was an online session and went quick so I didn't really retain a whole lot of what he told me, other than what I had written down. He did say he could record the session but that would feel a bit weird having that type of thing on someone else's hard drive.

I pretty much control my own emotions as it is. I guess where therapy comes in is it can substitute if you don't have much of a support system. I don't really have friends anymore so that leaves family but I wouldn't say they are too supportive (especially the family members that tend to be toxic and/or dysfunctional). Us guys pretty much have to rely on ourselves as far as support goes. I suppose that's where philosophy like stoicism helps as well, to keep problems in perspective. It's not that I can't handle my own shit but others like to dump their problems into my lap and it's almost like they look at me to play the role of therapist.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

Therapy is good in extreme circumstances but beyond that most times it is not necessary. Best therapy for a man is to have goals and discipline and when those two work in tandem the rest of the problems in the world are trivial or lessened.

Well said. That is similar to my line of thinking that I've always had.

I suppose when negative thoughts creep up, that's when one is a bit too bored and needs to get busier. I recall when I was working and going to school and had very little free time, there was no time to think and ruminate a whole lot about stuff.

Like with this thing at work, there were employees that were grateful and hell bent on going in for therapy. Many of them are women with not-very-difficult jobs. I was thinking "how could they be depressed" with having such cushy jobs and being paid well for them? I guess they are just bored and have too much time to think about stuff.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

Also, if you have enough life experiences and wisdom you begin to realize as you become older that receiving therapy from someone less versed on life is laughable.

At that point you can start to give out therapy to others simply because of your wisdom and life experiences.

Yeah. It's funny that sometimes I ask for advice from people but I'm actually at the point where I'm the one that should be giving advice. I don't really give myself credit for what I have learned.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

The phantoms of the mind more often than not are a bigger nemesis to the downfall of many people than the real problems we face day to day in the real world.

Very true

So I'm doing fine but I know people that are not and they complain to me about their trivial problems, but don't want to do anything about them.

It's a joke. They don't care about men. All they tell men is to go to the gym or keep busy. They offer no support.