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    WGTOW?

    Or maybe incels…

    What is it like to be a woman ageing solo in Ireland?


    Analysis: research has found that social stigma related to a solo identity is commonplace in Ireland
    And yet the entire piece is about how it affects women – men get one mention and it’s in brackets. Well thank you for acknowledging we also exist.

    This study of women in Ireland formed part of the Solo Women in Later Life study on the impact of relationship status for women in later life.
    We have to worry about our women because life is so much harder for them.

    "Solo" was used by the researchers as an alternative to other descriptive terms, such as "single" or "unmarried", which can have a more pejorative association.
    We can’t go hurting their feelz now can we? Anyway, since when is “single” or “unmarried” pejorative?

    Though there is little written about the Irish experience, international research suggests that the marginalisation of solo people is widespread. Bella dePaulo has argued that it may in fact increase with advancing age, with older singles who never achieved marriage at the bottom.
    Hard as they try, they just cannot stop themselves from stating that marriage is something of an achievement, implying lack of marriage is a failure. Get back on that farm.

    It is important that health and social care policies and services are aligned to the actual needs of solo women as a unique demographic
    To hell with the solo guys then, they obviously don’t exist. No, wait, we did get a cursory mention.

    Once again it’s all about the women.
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    Re: WGTOW?

    It's incredibly audacious for any human being to believe society owes them a comfortable bed to lay in when her whole live she abandoned the natural purpose of womanhood, they had their narrow-minded war on men and masculinity and want the same man mussel to provide for them indirectly through the tax/benefit code and legal advantages based solely on ethnicity and gender.

    Sorry ladies, be your own plow horse under your own reigns of tyranny.

    In other words, it looks like the girls got their heads shoved up their asses and supper-glued in place! Who the fuck wants to deal with that???
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    It's incredibly audacious for any human being to believe society owes them a comfortable bed to lay in when her whole live she abandoned the natural purpose of womanhood, they had their narrow-minded war on men and masculinity and want the same man mussel to provide for them indirectly through the tax/benefit code and legal advantages based solely on ethnicity and gender.

    Sorry ladies, be your own plow horse under your own reigns of tyranny.

    In other words, it looks like the girls got their heads shoved up their asses and supper-glued in place! Who the fuck wants to deal with that???
    You never fail to amaze me. I mean that in a good way. You are one of my favorite posters.

    Women don't need to be "solo". They have had many chances but failed miserably at them. The men that really cared about them are the ones they shunned. The honest and decent men didn't make their vaginas tingle. Women just used them for an emotional tampon and attention. Those men were never boyfriend or husband material to them. I love when women become spinsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You never fail to amaze me. I mean that in a good way. You are one of my favorite posters.

    Women don't need to be "solo". They have had many chances but failed miserably at them. The men that really cared about them are the ones they shunned. The honest and decent men didn't make their vaginas tingle. Women just used them for an emotional tampon and attention. Those men were never boyfriend or husband material to them. I love when women become spinsters.
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    How is this article related to WGTOW?
    It sounds more like an article about the plight of lonely women, and what society should do to alleviate their problems.

    I guess loneliness is an issue in many mechanically advanced societies, and not only women, but men too.

    I feel for women who are genuinely lonely, but I must say I have no idea why any woman would be lonely. Consider the advantages women have over men when it comes to issues of loneliness:

    - They have a circle of female friends they can contact anytime (even at 3am) and talk about their issues.
    - There are government funded workshops, social gathering etc exclusively for women.
    - They have access to welfare and free transport, which is usually easier to get and more generous compared to their male counterparts.
    - They can go on dating sites, and men will be proactive, even thirsty in pursuing them; unless they are unusually ugly (but as I mentioned, there aren't many ugly girls nowadays because they all do yoga, workout and look after themselves)
    - They can go to church or join some religious organisation which will be more than happy to accept them.

    There is a whole host of social organisations there to help them, and their issues aren't "unique" as this article tries to state. What may be unique is how much these women are left to fend for themselves. The Gynocracy is not happy if there is even one man staying home playing video games and not caring about the plight of women.

    I see lonely women well into their 60s, 70s, and 80s in my area in London. Some of them are widows, but in other cases, these women have chosen to live alone; even if they convince themselves otherwise.

    The average western women lives the life below:

    - Gets kicked out of the house at 17/18 by her parents.
    - Goes to uni, chooses to accept gender ideology.
    - Chooses a job as a high flyer at some corporation, making a tonne of money.
    - Chooses to get married, and probably has one child maximum.
    - Chooses to make her husband life complicated, always arguing and always making impossible demands.
    - Chooses to divorce her husband, milk half of his wages, and throw the child out when they reach 18.
    - When she is around her early 40s, starts dating again, milking men for cocktails, dinners and drinks; and once the date is over she disposes of them. (obviously while having chad on speed dial)
    - Then she reaches around late 40s, everything comes crashing down. Her looks fade, men no longer call, no longer buy drinks and no longer care.

    He male friends, male co-workers, who supported her were ignored by her (even for friendship) so they cut ties with her years prior. She also doesn't open her legs for them, so there is no point in restarting the relationship.

    If she does find the occasional good looking man on a dating site, that might like her, she will put him off when they meet. The reason being, is that she will constantly demand "stability" and a 40/50 year old man is not looking for that - he wants a woman that is happy and horny and doesn't have mental health issues, or wants to take revenge on the world for her "loneliness".

    By the time a man is 50, he will have worked a lot on himself and amassed enough money to live a satisfying life; he is a free and dignified man - when he is horny, he will pay the going rate for a prostitute.

    I do have one advise for older women who are looking, I say get in shape, develop some good manners and make yourself sexually available for a nice young man. Also, help this man financially so he can achieve his dream and have a bright future.

    There are a few relationships like that; and for the most part; they actually work quite well. The older woman provides financial support, the younger man provides sex, intimacy and support.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
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    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: WGTOW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    How is this article related to WGTOW?
    Question asked.

    I see lonely women well into their 60s, 70s, and 80s in my area in London. Some of them are widows, but in other cases, these women have chosen to live alone; even if they convince themselves otherwise.
    Question answered.

    And I did mention at the start that maybe they were female incels.
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    Re: WGTOW?

    LOL!

    Fair enough Jackoff, but I guess it is slightly different to MGTOW, I don't think I would class that as WGTOW. The way I see WGTOW, it would have to mean these women who "chose to live alone" actually never date and manipulate men for drinks, dinners or milk the in the divorce courts.

    A MGTOW never gets a chance like that - unfortunately!
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
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    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    LOL!

    Fair enough Jackoff, but I guess it is slightly different to MGTOW, I don't think I would class that as WGTOW. The way I see WGTOW, it would have to mean these women who "chose to live alone" actually never date and manipulate men for drinks, dinners or milk the in the divorce courts.

    A MGTOW never gets a chance like that - unfortunately!
    Without any info on why they live the way they do we just don't know, and the article didn't even speculate on this.

    But at least we can agree that for men the learning curve can be more painful financially if nothing else.
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    But at least we can agree that for men the learning curve can be more painful financially if nothing else.
    Yes, and it depends on WHEN a man learns he is being manipulated for dinners and drinks.

    I learned I was being manipulated around the age of 26/27.

    If a man learns around 50 or so, that is no good. He will be penniless by then and have no future to look forward to as he is too old to learn a new skill and develop a money making career out of it, so he can be financially stable for the future.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Every female who described herself as Incel, I used her picture on Tinder / POF as an experiment and found they had plenty of options to fuck and date men, who are way better looking than them in the looks department. A lot of these female incels confuse attraction for commitment. They think because they can't get commitment from chad, then this makes them an incel.

    Women went their own way in the late 70s, once we gave them the vote and proper careers. Ever since then they've been abandoning good men and taking the piss. They're just acting out of their nature. Now this stuff is starting to hit average men, which is why we're seeing rapid growth of mgtow as i said a few years ago on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    He male friends, male co-workers, who supported her were ignored by her (even for friendship) so they cut ties with her years prior. She also doesn't open her legs for them, so there is no point in restarting the relationship.
    You are half right. I use to treat women as people. There are women that I would never make a move on that I considered just friends. It was a one way street. I did all the work and supporting but they did nothing. If they got a boyfriend then I was dead to them but as soon as they would break up then she'd call me. She would never apologize for her behavior towards me. She would just make comments like "Oh the time I went out with Randy .." when she actually made plans with me. Everyone would defend her bad behavior. "Oh she has a new beau..YOU KNOW HOW IT IS" blah blah blah.

    If I was interested in a girl then my so called female friends would call me ugly & insult me in a nice way. They would give what I call the "Elvis Terminator" look. It's where they look you up & town(like the terminator) then give a disgusted look on their face with the Elvis lip curl. Then would come the "Fuck off" nice remarks. "She is pretty. She probably has other guys chasing her and she is high maintenance". In other words you are ugly and you don't even deserve to breathe the same air as her. Its funny because guys were different. They would never insult me when I mentioned I was interested in a girl. It was always something like "She is pretty dude" then just some conversation questions. "How did you meet her? , Whats her name?" or JOKINGLY insulting questions the way us boys talk to each other. "Did you ask her out yet ? Nope? Whats wrong? Your balls didn't drop?" Hahaha.

    God forbid if the lady friend had kids. They expected me to buy them & her kids every time I saw them. I am not buying shit for you or your 5 kids. Besides the kids were total assholes. If I mentioned how their kids talk to me then I'd get told "Oh! They dont know any better! They are only (insert age here)!, They won't listen anyway". I wonder if they would allow their kids to talk to Chad the way they talked to me. I highly doubt it. Fuck that Casey Anthony parenting shit.

    I got tired of being mistreated and their Captain Save A Hoe. I cut them out of my life. It's obvious they never cared about me cause they never call me after I stopped calling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You are half right. I use to treat women as people. There are women that I would never make a move on that I considered just friends. It was a one way street. I did all the work and supporting but they did nothing. If they got a boyfriend then I was dead to them but as soon as they would break up then she'd call me. She would never apologize for her behavior towards me. She would just make comments like "Oh the time I went out with Randy .." when she actually made plans with me. Everyone would defend her bad behavior. "Oh she has a new beau..YOU KNOW HOW IT IS" blah blah blah.

    If I was interested in a girl then my so called female friends would call me ugly & insult me in a nice way. They would give what I call the "Elvis Terminator" look. It's where they look you up & town(like the terminator) then give a disgusted look on their face with the Elvis lip curl. Then would come the "Fuck off" nice remarks. "She is pretty. She probably has other guys chasing her and she is high maintenance". In other words you are ugly and you don't even deserve to breathe the same air as her. Its funny because guys were different. They would never insult me when I mentioned I was interested in a girl. It was always something like "She is pretty dude" then just some conversation questions. "How did you meet her? , Whats her name?" or JOKINGLY insulting questions the way us boys talk to each other. "Did you ask her out yet ? Nope? Whats wrong? Your balls didn't drop?" Hahaha.

    God forbid if the lady friend had kids. They expected me to buy them & her kids every time I saw them. I am not buying shit for you or your 5 kids. Besides the kids were total assholes. If I mentioned how their kids talk to me then I'd get told "Oh! They dont know any better! They are only (insert age here)!, They won't listen anyway". I wonder if they would allow their kids to talk to Chad the way they talked to me. I highly doubt it. Fuck that Casey Anthony parenting shit.

    I got tired of being mistreated and their Captain Save A Hoe. I cut them out of my life. It's obvious they never cared about me cause they never call me after I stopped calling them.
    I think parasitic may be putting it lightly, another analogy is a zinc anode sacrificial ingot used in shipping, women are the ship, we're the anode ingot, and the law is the salt water that makes it all happen! In the end the man is replaced with a new anode of her hypergamous choosing! We're just an oxidated glob of zinc oxide waiting to happen!

    And that's today's chemistry lesson in the bonds between man and woman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I got tired of being mistreated and their Captain Save A Hoe. I cut them out of my life. It's obvious they never cared about me cause they never call me after I stopped calling them.
    This ↑.

    Unfortunately it takes time to see this type of behaviour. Call it being friendzoned or being an orbiter or whatever you like. I thought it was just being a friend, but for some reason women just can't understand this behaviour (keeping in touch & making sure everything is going O.K.). All they ever think about is me me me.
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    Unfortunately it takes time to see this type of behaviour. Call it being friendzoned or being an orbiter or whatever you like. I thought it was just being a friend, but for some reason women just can't understand this behaviour (keeping in touch & making sure everything is going O.K.). All they ever think about is me me me.
    To be fair, it is men's fault they never verbalise their desires. It took me a while to figure things out but women are shrewd and calculating. If you keep buying drinks and dinners, they will accept, kiss you on the cheek, and go home pussy wet ready for chad.

    That is why I have the two date rule (it used to be three dates). If the girl isn't down on her knees sucking your cock by the second date, then it is an instant block. And the first date should cost no more than $30.

    I don't care if she is a single mother with several different coloured organisms or a pure muslim virgin, from my are in Saudi.

    Suck the cock or you get the block.
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    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
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    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Suck the cock or you get the block.
    LMFAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You are half right. I use to treat women as people. There are women that I would never make a move on that I considered just friends. It was a one way street. I did all the work and supporting but they did nothing. If they got a boyfriend then I was dead to them but as soon as they would break up then she'd call me. She would never apologize for her behavior towards me. She would just make comments like "Oh the time I went out with Randy .." when she actually made plans with me. Everyone would defend her bad behavior. "Oh she has a new beau..YOU KNOW HOW IT IS" blah blah blah.

    If I was interested in a girl then my so called female friends would call me ugly & insult me in a nice way. They would give what I call the "Elvis Terminator" look. It's where they look you up & town(like the terminator) then give a disgusted look on their face with the Elvis lip curl. Then would come the "Fuck off" nice remarks. "She is pretty. She probably has other guys chasing her and she is high maintenance". In other words you are ugly and you don't even deserve to breathe the same air as her. Its funny because guys were different. They would never insult me when I mentioned I was interested in a girl. It was always something like "She is pretty dude" then just some conversation questions. "How did you meet her? , Whats her name?" or JOKINGLY insulting questions the way us boys talk to each other. "Did you ask her out yet ? Nope? Whats wrong? Your balls didn't drop?" Hahaha.

    God forbid if the lady friend had kids. They expected me to buy them & her kids every time I saw them. I am not buying shit for you or your 5 kids. Besides the kids were total assholes. If I mentioned how their kids talk to me then I'd get told "Oh! They dont know any better! They are only (insert age here)!, They won't listen anyway". I wonder if they would allow their kids to talk to Chad the way they talked to me. I highly doubt it. Fuck that Casey Anthony parenting shit.

    I got tired of being mistreated and their Captain Save A Hoe. I cut them out of my life. It's obvious they never cared about me cause they never call me after I stopped calling them.
    There are no such things as human rights, human dignity or even plain diplomacy for them.

    When they consider you below a certain threeshold it seems like its their duty (and right) to make sure you dont get the idea that you deserve anything while you are still expected to work for it.
    That line about their kids not being allowed to mistreat chad while an average guy has to endure any bullying goes straight to the point.

    Dont get me wrong I'm an asshole but at least I have the decency to pretend that lucy fat ass has a shot when she tells me that she likes the lower floor chad, I even wish her good luck.
    They are simply so used not to deal with conseguences of their words and actions that they can afford to release their impulsivity without a second thought or any moderate diplomacy.

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    Blahnik blahnik. There arent enough men who meet there picky requirements.

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    Whimyn chose to be a universal liability for men. Actions have consequence. Men decided that they were better off living their lives alone than risk the hell of associating with whimyn for the sake of tradition, cultural norms or 'companionship and family.' Once again, men are proving that logic is a tool of the patriarchy.

    Articles like this are the bellwether for a huge spike in lonely, bitter spinsters. Fortunately, I doubt we will ever see a surge of reflective articles written by these crones as a warning to younger whimyn. It is much easier to blame men than accept responsibility for their decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    Whimyn chose to be a universal liability for men. Actions have consequence. Men decided that they were better off living their lives alone than risk the hell of associating with whimyn for the sake of tradition, cultural norms or 'companionship and family.' Once again, men are proving that logic is a tool of the patriarchy.

    Articles like this are the bellwether for a huge spike in lonely, bitter spinsters. Fortunately, I doubt we will ever see a surge of reflective articles written by these crones as a warning to younger whimyn. It is much easier to blame men than accept responsibility for their decisions.
    Those thoughts went through my head earlier! It's dumbfounding to think they want and expect us to mop up their mess by being held accountable for their whimsical actions and life altering decisions.

    And when you're all worn out from being her catch'all, she'll find another shit-basket more than willing to take all her shit, and with a smile and a thank-you!

    I have all the women I've ever known to discourage me from thinking there's anything different or decent out there, even if she is "decent" wait a while, she'll change.

    It's amazes me to see how women are so naive to believe men can't walk away from relationshits with the intentions of never returning, they don't "get it" until "it" is too late.

    I say let their empowered delusions deliver them anywhere but here!
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