Thread: We all have our unique reasons for MGTOW

When I say "unique" I mean in an individual reason you're MGTOW.

There's plenty of reasons, perhaps a religious belief that no modern woman can be a traditional wife so you've washed your hands of it, or maybe you've gone through enough painful experiences with marriage/divorce-rape/cheating cycle you've given up on women entirely.

Maybe you simply aren't that successful at dating so you've had bad experiences and just decided the juice isn't worth the monumental and expensive squeeze to get it.

Maybe you just associate with MGTOW because it's the only "men only" place left to bitch about the wahmyn for a little while to vent.

One thing I see in the "criticisms" against our lifestyle, such as it is, is that we're all somehow "damaged and struggling", which is one of their favorite terms. "Struggling".

Maybe I am damaged.

I came from a loving two parent household. We did all sorts of fun things. At an early age I just thought marriage seemed stupid. It seemed like forcing you to make friends in the second grade and be friends with them forever, never being allowed to play kick ball with other kids.

I've never been married, nor divorced, had kids taken away from me, or had bad experiences in relationships. I've never been hurt, or cheated on (due to how I have relationships), and had many lovers, but I've never chased women.

I just don't. I'm not asexual as far as I know, I have a high sex drive, but I just don't chase pussy. Lovers are great and all, but when you're done you're done.

I just see no point in getting married. I just don't see that value in such a merger with someone.

So how, in that rambling explanation, am I supposed to be broken? I may think religion is silly, but a religious reason to not get married is perfectly valid. If women can whine about any man smaller than 6'8" being out of the dating pool, then surely being burned and raped by divorce is perfectly valid, even if you've never been married and just observed it happening to others.

So, assigned-men-at-birth, do you believe you're damaged in some way? I'm not saying you are, but did you have experiences that shied you away from the "fairer" sex?

For me, there were/are many many reasons I became a MGHOW.
The biggest Red Pill for me was just observing their behavior, or misbehavior, TBH.

That started at an early age, seeing girls pulling all kinds of BS, and getting away with it...
...'cause gurls are thugar and thpice and everything nithe...yeah, could've fooled me.
In my experience, they were anything but, unless they were around a Chad,
or if they wanted something, THEENNNNN they would act real sweet.

And don't get me started on the gossip, or the hive mentality.

Funny thing is, they never grow out of it, teen years are the worst, but adulthood (physically, that is),
they aren't much different, other than having much more experience in... ...getting what they want.

I don't consider myself damaged at all, just fully RP'd with no antidote...the Red Pill IS the antidote.

Edit: proofreading my post, I realized it's not us who are damaged, but women in general, and have been since the dawn of time.
They're born that way, and most refuse to "repair" themselves, meaning being accountable for their own actions, and most men
just support that behavior in hopes of getting some.

Regardless of what women say, they DO know right from wrong, but if they aren't held accountable for their actions,
they have no reason to reign in their crazy.

I got a few dings that didn't buff out too good but compared to most of us I got off easy. I'm not complaining.

I avoid women for the same reason I avoid Vegas. It's cause the odds are bad, not because I'm damaged goods. I played the blue pill game from my late teens till I was near fifty. That's when I decided that if thirty years wasn't enough, it was never going to happen. From then till I joined this mob I was just waiting.

Originally Posted by NorthwoodsHermit

For me, there were/are many many reasons I became a MGHOW.
The biggest Red Pill for me was just observing their behavior, or misbehavior, TBH.

That started at an early age, seeing girls pulling all kinds of BS, and getting away with it...
...'cause gurls are thugar and thpice and everything nithe...yeah, could've fooled me.
In my experience, they were anything but, unless they were around a Chad,
or if they wanted something, THEENNNNN they would act real sweet.

And don't get me started on the gossip, or the hive mentality.

Funny thing is, they never grow out of it, teen years are the worst, but adulthood (physically, that is),
they aren't much different, other than having much more experience in... ...getting what they want.

I don't consider myself damaged at all, just fully RP'd with no antidote...the Red Pill IS the antidote.

Edit: proofreading my post, I realized it's not us who are damaged, but women in general, and have been since the dawn of time.
They're born that way, and most refuse to "repair" themselves, meaning being accountable for their own actions, and most men
just support that behavior in hopes of getting some.

Regardless of what women say, they DO know right from wrong, but if they aren't held accountable for their actions,
they have no reason to reign in their crazy.

Good post. I think the biggest drivers for me were the overall sense of entitlement and lack of accountability. It’s also their manipulative, self-centered nature. They play the female card when it’s convenient. Pay for my dinner, buy me jewelry, protect me, etc. Yet somehow they demand equality to men. It’s like saying, “You and I are equal, but pay for my shit because I’m a woman.”

A woman puts herself above all others, especially the “man” in her life. There are no limits or boundaries in terms of the lengths she will go to satisfy what’s in her best interest. She can do that, but a man is supposed to press his lips to her sacred ass and appease her every wish and whim. Spend his money, give up his passions, do all the hard labor. And when that’s all done, the bitch still has more.

Women and relationships are incongruent. How can something (relationship) built on the foundation of giving and receiving work with a creature (woman) who automatically puts herself as number one in the equation.

Rules for thee and not for me. Woman in a relationship fucks Chad: “My boyfriend just doesn’t listen to me. I needed to feel close to someone.” Man in relationship fucks another woman and he’s immediately a cheater, a pig, a vile, disgusting bastard worthy of castration according to women.

But what if he felt unheard and ignored in his relationship? No excuse. Fuck you and die, bastard, according to the women.

Nature was wrong. Men and women were never meant to complement one another. The mentality of women, particularly modern ones, is toxic. When the game can’t be won, why even play anymore?

Witnessing my parents' toxic relationship with each other ever is one of the major factors for me to adopt the MGTOW lifestyle. Seeing them getting crazy and snappy with each other over stuff most people would handle without much issue definitely pushed me away from the idea of marriage. I don't even wanna risk having a relationship like my parents did. They probably wonder why I always wear headphones in the house when they're around. I can also thank society for the way treats Men in general and the current dating scene for also pushing me towards MGTOW.

I wouldn't say I'm damaged or broken. Just adaptable and mindful of past experiences. If I hadn't had the experiences I've had, maybe things would be different. Maybe not.
The dating landscape is worse than ever. Women can get validation online from men all over the world so their standards have skyrocketed. Hell, even Tom Brady couldn't hang on to his old lady.
Any woman you would choose to have a relationship with feels like she's settling.

No thanks.

My partents got divorced when I was around 11, maybe 12. It was a huge shit show with both of them having new partners and me trying to somehow fit in, what acutally has never really happend. So I lived with my mother, than with my father, which was a huge disappointment. The man got so sucked in by his new finance that he turned into her puppet, trying to force her will on everybody he lived or had contact with. It was then when I learned that if I want to somehow survive in this world I have to do things on my own. Unfortunately, I didn't apply that mindset to my relationships which resulted in two bad breakups in my early 20s. Fortunately for me, I never got one of them pregnant or married them. In my 20s aswell, I started to get in touch with the pickup philosophy. I worked quite well but it never felt right. By the end of my 20s, I've finished my masters degree and had a decent job and made a good living (which I still do, but with less working hours). It was then that I didn't felt the need to chase women anymore. In fact, I didn't understand why it would be me to chase them. It should be them chasing me. Call that somekind of entitlement, and it probably is, but most of them bring nothing to the table besides sex and that just isn't enough for me to get along. My late 20s where kind of a transition period from blue pill, to red pill, to mgtow. By the end of my 20s I started to get health issues. It was because of my job. I cannot handle stress that well. I always thought I could but it turned out that I was pretty fucked up after working and studying at the same time and getting more and more responsibilities over time. Yes, I made decent money but it wasn't worth it. I asked myself "What do you want with that money? You don't want a family, you don't need to work your ass into an early grave." So I reduced my working hours to now 32 hours a week. I now have 3 days off and 4 working days and I still get decent money for doing so. Going back full plantation mode is not an option, having a family neither. I want to reduce the stress in my life not increase it. I'm thinking about starting a small consulting business. If that works and I'll make enough money, I'll reduce my working hours in the company I'm in even more. Maybe at somepoint I only work for myself. That would be awesome. Good thing is, I don't need that much money living on my own. That increases the chance of living somewhat independently without working for somebody else but me.
That's basically how I went my own way. I'm not completely against a relationship as long as there are separated households and basically everybody is responsible for themselfs. Turns out, women don't want that, who would have guessed..., and a lot of them want family and I don't. So I'll continue going my own way and I highly doubt that this will change anytime soon. It will probably never change.

I've seen from personal experience how " evil" women can be. I now live in my own little "garden of Eden" that cost me a lot of sweat ,tears and going without to build...no ways am I letting another " Eve" in to fuck things up all over again...

Originally Posted by Lordoftheflies

I've seen from personal experience how " evil" women can be. I now live in my own little "garden of Eden" that cost me a lot of sweat ,tears and going without to build...no ways am I letting another " Eve" in to fuck things up all over again...

There wouldn't be a need for such a ferocious defense if there wasn't a gender war going on.

I feel the exact same way, "vulnerable".

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

When I say "unique" I mean in an individual reason you're MGTOW.

There's plenty of reasons, perhaps a religious belief that no modern woman can be a traditional wife so you've washed your hands of it, or maybe you've gone through enough painful experiences with marriage/divorce-rape/cheating cycle you've given up on women entirely.

Maybe you simply aren't that successful at dating so you've had bad experiences and just decided the juice isn't worth the monumental and expensive squeeze to get it.

Maybe you just associate with MGTOW because it's the only "men only" place left to bitch about the wahmyn for a little while to vent.

One thing I see in the "criticisms" against our lifestyle, such as it is, is that we're all somehow "damaged and struggling", which is one of their favorite terms. "Struggling".

Maybe I am damaged.

I came from a loving two parent household. We did all sorts of fun things. At an early age I just thought marriage seemed stupid. It seemed like forcing you to make friends in the second grade and be friends with them forever, never being allowed to play kick ball with other kids.

I've never been married, nor divorced, had kids taken away from me, or had bad experiences in relationships. I've never been hurt, or cheated on (due to how I have relationships), and had many lovers, but I've never chased women.

I just don't. I'm not asexual as far as I know, I have a high sex drive, but I just don't chase pussy. Lovers are great and all, but when you're done you're done.

I just see no point in getting married. I just don't see that value in such a merger with someone.

So how, in that rambling explanation, am I supposed to be broken? I may think religion is silly, but a religious reason to not get married is perfectly valid. If women can whine about any man smaller than 6'8" being out of the dating pool, then surely being burned and raped by divorce is perfectly valid, even if you've never been married and just observed it happening to others.

So, assigned-men-at-birth, do you believe you're damaged in some way? I'm not saying you are, but did you have experiences that shied you away from the "fairer" sex?

I’m exactly like you in the sense that I never chased pussy. I’ve been in 2 relationships: one in USA and one in Vietnam. Both the times, pussy chased ME and I ended it (after the honeymoon, of course). However, I have a different experience from you in the way people treat me. NOBODY dares call me names. NOBODY dares ask me any questions as to why I’m single. EVERYBODY knows I fuck a lot. Hookers most of the times, of course. My dad even caught me red handed fucking a Chinese bitch in Bangkok once (she was not a hooker tho, just in desperate need of servicing).

Anyways, I digress.

I think the point I want to make is, it’s WE who are responsible for how people perceive and treat us. If you exude self confidence and REALLY do not give a flying fuck about what ANYONE (including your family) thinks about you, nobody dares fucking with you. Simply because they know better. How they know better, YOU made sure of it.

It shows in the way you carry yourself. I RETIRED at the age of 32. Talk about confidence.

And about being “damaged” or “struggling,” I’m EVERYTHING you think I am. Question is “what are you gonna do about it?”

Through the observation of the intersex dynamics, and its progression in our society, the only logical path for me is MGTOW. Unless I want all the drama and disappointments that follow when you chase skirts.
This website has given me an infinite amount of affirmations that I'm on the right trajectory in my life.

The second I embraced the "no expectations = no disappointments" philosophy, my life has steadily developed into a very meaningful existence.

To each his own, I have no bad childhood memories to blame anything on. A couple (I know, right!?) divorces is all that it took for me to unscrew my head and screw it back on right.

It's all gravy from here.