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    Unborn Child Support Act

    JULY 13, 2022

    Sen. Cramer, Rep. Johnson Introduce Bicameral Legislation to Allow Pregnant Mothers to Receive Child Support
    WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer (R-ND) and Representative Mike Johnson (R-LA-04) introduced bicameral legislation, the Unborn Child Support Act, to give mothers the ability to receive child support payments while they are pregnant.

    “Caring for the well-being of our children begins long before a baby is born. It begins at the first moment of life – conception – and fathers have obligations, financial and otherwise, during pregnancy. Mothers should be able to access child support payments as soon as she is supporting a child. Our bill makes this possible,” said Senator Cramer.

    Life begins at conception, and this bill is a straightforward first step towards updating our federal laws to reflect that fact. We are hopeful that Democrats will join this bicameral effort to provide mothers with child support payments while their child is in the womb,” said Rep. Johnson.

    The Unborn Child Support Act allows a court, in consultation with the mother, to award child support payments while the child is still in the womb and retroactively up to the point of conception as determined by a physician. It also:


    • Provides flexibility for mothers who do not want involvement of the father by not requiring those mothers to receive child support.
    • Requires judges to consult with mothers on payment plans and gives mothers discretion as to whether or not child support payments will be awarded retroactively.
    • Mandates that all paternity tests be at the discretion of the mother and not be conducted if the test would put the child at risk.


    Joining Senator Cramer and Representative Johnson are Senators Steve Daines (R-MT), Jim Inhofe (R-OK), Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Rick Scott (R-FL), Roger Marshall (R-KS), James Lankford (R-OK), Roger Wicker (R-MS), and Marco Rubio (R-FL).

    “Parents know that the cost of raising a child begins long before birth, and fathers need to take responsibility,“ said Senator Daines.

    “I am proud to join Sen. Cramer in introducing the Unborn Child Support Act and standing true to what being pro-life means: protecting life beginning at conception,” said Senator Inhofe. “Mothers should have the option to receive court-ordered child support well before the time of birth and this bill is a first step towards getting them and their unborn children the support they deserve.”

    “I hope good legislation, like the Unborn Child Support Act, gets more support now that the Dobbs decision encourages us to look more seriously at supporting mothers and their unborn children,” said Senator Hyde-Smith.

    “This legislation would help ensure women have opportunities to receive child support payments from the earlier days of their pregnancy.”

    “During pregnancy, women take on the responsibility to protect another human life, and it’s important that she is supported in all aspects,” said Senator Blackburn.

    “This legislation will help ensure an expectant mother has access to the financial resources she needs to care for herself and her unborn child.”

    “No mom should have to worry about carrying the responsibility of caring for their child alone. Support for a child should start at the moment of conception, when life truly begins. This good bill makes sure that federal law reflects this important principle,” said Senator Scott.

    “Now that decisions regarding how to protect life were returned to the people’s elected representatives through the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Oklahoma and other states have rightly stood for life and made all elective abortions illegal while also taking steps to support pregnant moms and families,” said Lankford.

    “Dads need to step up and provide for their kids. Period. Our bill helps moms in every state have access to child support throughout the entirety of their children’s lives, not just after they are born,” said Senator Lankford.

    A recent poll from the Bucknell Institute for Public Policy shows popular support for child support payments to begin at conception.
    The Unborn Child Support Act is supported by the Susan B. Anthony List, March for Life, Family Research Council, and Concerned Women for America.

    “In the new Dobbs era, our policies should reflect the science that life begins at conception and the reality that women and families start making plans well before the birth of a child. From the moment a woman learns she is pregnant, throughout her pregnancy, and after a child is born, she should receive the support she needs to care for herself and baby,” said Hon. Marilyn Musgrave, SBA Pro-Life America’s Vice President of Government Affairs.

    “We thank Senator Cramer, Congressman Johnson and their colleagues for recognizing the critical, life-saving difference a father’s support makes and calling men to greater responsibility in helping moms choose life for their children.”

    “We know that children do best when they are cared for and supported by both their mother and father, and this care must begin in the womb. Ensuring that mothers have the ability to receive financial support for their unborn children rightly restores the duty of fathers to provide for their children from the moment their child’s life begins. We are thankful to Representative Johnson and Senator Cramer for introducing the Unborn Child Support Act, to ensure that mothers and their unborn children receive the care and support that they need,” said Connor Semelsberger, Director of Federal Affairs for Life and Human Dignity, Family Research Council.

    “At Concerned Women for America, we believe that life begins at conception and are proud to support the Unborn Child Support Act. This legislation recognizes the sanctity of human life and encourages mothers to choose life by allowing women to receive child support while pregnant. We must continue to fight to protect the dignity of every human being and ensure that we support mothers in the process,” said Penny Nance, CEO and President, Concerned Women for America.


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    • Mandates that all paternity tests be at the discretion of the mother and not be conducted if the test would put the child at risk.
    Well, there you have it. Welcome to this beautiful country called America where instead of money, pussy talks. Do you have genitals that dangle, here's a table for you, but while you wait for the course meal of enslavement we specially have prepared we have this jar of vaseline, and we only require you to stand, drop your pants, bend over...well you know the rest.
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    If I'm reading this right, the woman could pick anyone she wants for the father without any proof whatsoever and make it stick.

    But hey, if the fathers such a scumbag that no further contact is wanted, the law won't force her to take his money. Isn't that a relief.
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Women voters will love this idea so expect the politicians to pass this law soon - . . . Maybe time for you to get residency in a foreign country if you are a wealthy target so you can make your escape? Would be enjoyable if rich politicians got targeted - "I slept with Gavin Newsom in a one night stand and I'm pregnant so give me money for his baby I'm carrying . . . " LOL

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Women voters will love this idea so expect the politicians to pass this law soon - . . . Maybe time for you to get residency in a foreign country if you are a wealthy target so you can make your escape? Would be enjoyable if rich politicians got targeted - "I slept with Gavin Newsom in a one night stand and I'm pregnant so give me money for his baby I'm carrying . . . " LOL
    Oh yea, women and democrats will lap it all up, but then they'd be making an admission that life begins at conception. Ah, who am I to overrate human's unique ability to override encountered cognitive dissonance. I'm sure they'll find a way to make it seem like it makes sense.

    What I don't understand is how these politicians can't seem to make the link between an all-time declining birthrate and the enormous ever-increasing power granted women to keep their knees on men's necks.
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    Oh yea, women and the democrats will lap it all up, but then they'd be making an admission that life began with conception. Ah, who am I to overrate human's unique ability to override encountered cognitive dissonance. I'm sure they'll find a way to make it seem like it makes sense.

    What I don't understand is how these politicians can't seem to make the link between an all time declining birthrate and the enormous ever-increasing power granted women to keep their knees on men's necks.
    What is Bicameral Legislation anyway? I never heard of it.

    Seven times in this prospective piece of legislation that I wouldn't line a birdcage with, they claim life begins at conception like it was both scientific and legal fact. Looks like the old repeat the lies till they work defense. The pro-choice brigade will never admit to life beginning at conception since that's the only argument they have that can keep abortions going. With any luck they'll do our work for us. Least this time.

    I don't know what politicians blame the low birthrate on, but I'm pretty sure unhappy men are not it. They don't even know we're unhappy and wouldn't care if they did. If women will vote them in, that's all they see.
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    What is Bicameral Legislation anyway? I never heard of it.
    It means the bill was sponsored by member(s) of both the Senate and the House of Representatives. The USA has a bicameral legislature.

    U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer (R-ND) and Representative Mike Johnson (R-LA-04) introduced bicameral legislation
    I think they wrote that in a confusing way, as by definition there is no way a Senator and a Rep could not together introduce bicameral legislation.

    Maybe they should have said,

    "U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer (R-ND) and Representative Mike Johnson (R-LA-04) introduced legislation to..."

    and subsequently said,

    "This bicameral legislation..."


    Not that that would have defined it, but it would have removed that bit of confusion from those whom it affected.
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Folks and this is why I believe Republicans arenít doing men any favors. The Roe vs Wade decision might have been cute for a minute. However, Republicans want men to suffer. Democrats aka liberals just want freedom to choose. Iím pro abortion, death penalty, and for legalization of all drugs. Take a life and the state can take yours. Fair is fair. Your body your choice.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    IT should be like insurance. Who enjoys the the protection. Who puts money in.
    Men never enjoy the child support protection, so no men should be there to pay.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    More "reason" (because that's what men do best) to cut the legal constrictions wrapped around our necks!

    The scales of equity based in fairness have been crushed flat from the overwhelming weight of our cultural revolution started in the 1800's, gaining strength and momentum the entire way, giving us a society and culture we need to, and do abandon, every step of the way.

    They've made sovereignty, isolation, independence, and resistance the only "safe space" for the western men subject to this destructive plight.

    We are not subjects, not those of us that walked away in mind, body, and spirit, to let death have its prey.

    I got even by living the best life I possibly can, avoiding the legal snares and traps ushered in on the wings of cultural transformation and all its bitter rottenness.

    The only way over, around, or under the law, is to avoid it altogether by whatever means necessary at your disposal.

    It's nothing personal outside enduring a broken heart that healed, packing my bags, left, and never to be heard or seen again in the heart of a woman. It leads to death, dying, and at best only suffering.

    If women were treated 1/4 as bad as men the world would stop in a moment's notice then do an about face.

    It's all good now that I'm only an observer, please pass the popcorn...
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    If I'm reading this right, the woman could pick anyone she wants for the father without any proof whatsoever and make it stick.
    This is one of the things that destroyed the Soviet Union. A man had no reason - none - to work hard and establish himself. So they were all drunk on the job all the time.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    they claim life begins at conception like it was both scientific and legal fact.
    It is scientific fact, well kinda. We can consider both the egg and the sperm as being “alive”, but until they meet their fates are set. They will not survive and they are not human beings although they have the potential to become so. Once conception occurs then that is the beginning, it is now a human being albeit at a very early stage. Destroying that newly formed human should IMO reap the same rewards as destroying any other life.

    Murder is murder, but that’s a legal term. The legal side of things is another matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    The pro-choice brigade will never admit to life beginning at conception since that's the only argument they have that can keep abortions going.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    It means the bill was sponsored by member(s) of both the Senate and the House of Representatives. The USA has a bicameral legislature.



    I think they wrote that in a confusing way, as by definition there is no way a Senator and a Rep could not together introduce bicameral legislation.

    Maybe they should have said,

    "U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer (R-ND) and Representative Mike Johnson (R-LA-04) introduced legislation to..."

    and subsequently said,

    "This bicameral legislation..."


    Not that that would have defined it, but it would have removed that bit of confusion from those whom it affected.
    I'd suggest that the wording was intentional to imply support from both houses.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacknMGTOW View Post
    Folks and this is why I believe Republicans aren’t doing men any favors. The Roe vs Wade decision might have been cute for a minute. However, Republicans want men to suffer. Democrats aka liberals just want freedom to choose. I’m pro abortion, death penalty, and for legalization of all drugs. Take a life and the state can take yours. Fair is fair. Your body your choice.
    Freedom to choose? Do you mean feedom to kill without recrimination?

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    My disgust for Ameriskanks increases by the day.

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    This is just one more way to firmly establish a declining birth rate. (This is why I will not have sex with any fertile woman).

    It is simply not worth it.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Freedom to choose? Do you mean feedom to kill without recrimination?
    Itís the lesser of two evils. If those babies are born, they will be abandoned or abused. I know itís a touchy subject. However, if that pre birth child support law does pass, no man is safe from being put in child support. A virgin can end up being put on child support.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    It's all a matter of needing plantation slaves to pull the welfare cart so they can secure their government pensions for administrating society's collapse and destruction.

    Destructive forms of government do destructive sorts of of things, they can't escape what they are, they only know how double down on their efforts!
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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacknMGTOW View Post
    It’s the lesser of two evils. If those babies are born, they will be abandoned or abused. I know it’s a touchy subject. However, if that pre birth child support law does pass, no man is safe from being put in child support. A virgin can end up being put on child support.
    Rather than dole out a fatal punishment to the only innocent in that equation why not address the inception so unwanted babies aren't conceived in the first place, but oh no, that means we would have to do something that's rarely done in this parts of the world, put onus of responsibility on women who open their legs in the first place and those they decide to part those legs for.

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain View Post
    This is just one more way to firmly establish a declining birth rate. (This is why I will not have sex with any fertile woman).

    It is simply not worth it.
    Exactly.

    I'm sure the sponsors and cosponsors cannot see it as such but that is surely the "unintended consequence". They're simply looking at it from the standpoint that if men will not marry then the state will see to it the transfer of wealth will begin at the earliest possible moment.

    As if we needed any more excuses to avoid women at all costs the fact that paternity testing will only be done at the request of the mother should violate the equal protection clause. It simply doesn't take a rocket scientist that in this age of false METOO accusations that false paternity accusations will flow like water over Niagara Falls.

    I would be far more comfortable with this proposal if paternity testing were mandatory in all cases. The problem is that the politicians won't go there for a variety of reasons but a biggie is that all too often the actual father will be found to be a guy too poor to make the payments. I guess they'll need to empty the prisons of murderers and thieves in order to have room to house the "deadbeat dads".

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    Re: Unborn child support law proposed by a republican senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    I'd suggest that the wording was intentional to imply support from both houses.
    Well, to put a fine point to it, I'd say they're stating it directly as fact, not indirectly by implication. My point only was that they already said as much at the beginning of that same sentence, by stating both honorifics, Senator Kramer and Representative Johnson. But yeah, to make a clear point of it to readers who wouldn't notice that, they point it out. Yes, intentional. Just a bit redundant when redundant in the same sentence.
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