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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Hella of an entertaining read, but I really wouldn't recommend this much for some box - that madly in love text is gold hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    You do you brother, to me, that sounds horrible and stressful and I can think of many better ways to spend $200.
    This.

    I guess I am too old to remember the exhilaration of "the hunt"...
    But even back then, I doubt I'd classify this kind of evening as "memories worth having".

    Good luck Ed - I fear you may need it!

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    Interesting read. I think if I chose to be with a woman again (sexually of course, not a relationshit), Iíll just stick to a prostitute. At least itís a guaranteed piece of ass and no drama. She knows I donít want to listen to her. Just spreadíem and let me pump away.

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    You are such an asshole for this.
    I absolutely love it. I nearly died laughing at the end when you out-crazied the crazy.

    But on a deeper note, if we were to explore this interaction from another lens (assuming this isn't fiction, in which case consider this a literature review):
    This post-wall modern woman has has actually reached the state where she realizes that she can't lie her way into a man's life to get what she wants anymore. Because what she really wants is stability and someone to take all the problems away like magic, without having to put in any real work herself mind you.
    She doesn't possess any assets that any man deems valuable anymore so the best bet is the hail mary attempt to look for a simp willing to do it just because. That's why she didn't pressure for sex at all. It's a benefit to her if you support her without being sexual, because then you'd be placing a responsibility on her- a requirement for you to stay (which is not in-keeping with how she wants the relationship deal to go; all the requirements are on you and you alone --young men take note as this is how it appears.--)

    This is funny to me because she was actually telling you the truth the whole time.
    If you believe everything you hear is a lie, you have a 100% lie detection rate.
    The opposite holds true but I would rather be surprised by the truth than a lie.

    Society is a Simulacrum.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    I paid about $200 for this date including the room...had to get my money's worth.

    Women -- don't go on a date with a man and then go back to a hotel room at midnight if all you want to do is cuddle under the covers with your clothes on.
    I almost thought it was my ex wife until I read "slim and kinda hot". Nope. Not her. What you went through was just an average day for me when I was married. You become numb.

    $200? You broke Tom Leykis's rule of No more than $40 for a date.
    $40.00 Spending Limits

    Leykis 101 students are cautioned against spending more than $40 on a date. The reasoning behind this is Leykis' opinion that more money spent during a date will not necessarily lead to a better chance of sex, contrary to the belief of most 'uninformed' men. If the person a student is dating does not want sex by the third date, a Leykis 101 student is instructed to "dump that bitch". Leykis asserts, as a matter of convenience to his students, that if a woman doesn't have sex with them by their third date, it means she has no intention of ever doing so.

    If you have to go on several dates before reaching your goal, this can make girls very expensive. How do you do this? There's several ways to cut costs. If you are going out to dinner, eat first. Then at dinner, just order a salad or bowl of soup. What girl is going to eat more than the guy, especially if it's the first dates? Does she want to look like a little piggy in front of him?
    Stay away from women. They will only break your heart.

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    Shit- Iím adding youÖ.12. MGTOWFOREVER- Guys got balls the size of church bells. Ainít afraid to call out an oversight and hold people accountable. I love that! Be sure to move over to the new board guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Playing tennis with grenades, that's something I don't see every day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    You are such an asshole for this.
    I absolutely love it. I nearly died laughing at the end when you out-crazied the crazy.

    But on a deeper note, if we were to explore this interaction from another lens (assuming this isn't fiction, in which case consider this a literature review):
    This post-wall modern woman has has actually reached the state where she realizes that she can't lie her way into a man's life to get what she wants anymore. Because what she really wants is stability and someone to take all the problems away like magic, without having to put in any real work herself mind you.
    She doesn't possess any assets that any man deems valuable anymore so the best bet is the hail mary attempt to look for a simp willing to do it just because. That's why she didn't pressure for sex at all. It's a benefit to her if you support her without being sexual, because then you'd be placing a responsibility on her- a requirement for you to stay (which is not in-keeping with how she wants the relationship deal to go; all the requirements are on you and you alone --young men take note as this is how it appears.--)

    This is funny to me because she was actually telling you the truth the whole time.
    You speak like a psychiatrist with 40 years experience. You nailed this one. Her husband that made $300-400k left her...she said all he wanted was sex from her and said she was crazy. She blames him, her mom, her dad, her childhood and everything else. Now she's working a lower paying job and having to support herself. She wants to be wined and dined like her ex did her and she also wants a relationship...with someone making enough money to help support her down the line. She seemed to love that I spent all this money like I didn't care. She wanted me to be more focused on my career to help HER down the line. She said stuff like "our relationship" before we even met. In her mind she can groom me to be what she wants. And she knows that sex is her only weapon...she probably knew that the date she planned for the next day could go up in smoke if she put out. It's probably happened a lot because why would a guy otherwise want to be around her?

    She's asked me several times now if I'm coming back tonight. A murderer with severe anger problems since a childhood who goes into fits of rage!!! WTF.

    I said maybe if I'm not sexually frustrated by you again (not going just checking the response)...she said "it's only the second date and I like to move slow". LOL...she probably thought she had her a simp until I showed up in person and got some drinks in me. I took her on "the best date she's ever had" then she was crying in the parking lot...she actually cried about different stuff a few times which is not something I can deal with from a stranger.

    She's going to have to find a purebred simp to have any chance at what she wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Playing tennis with grenades, that's something I don't see every day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    You are such an asshole for this.
    I absolutely love it. I nearly died laughing at the end when you out-crazied the crazy.

    But on a deeper note, if we were to explore this interaction from another lens (assuming this isn't fiction, in which case consider this a literature review):
    This post-wall modern woman has has actually reached the state where she realizes that she can't lie her way into a man's life to get what she wants anymore. Because what she really wants is stability and someone to take all the problems away like magic, without having to put in any real work herself mind you.
    She doesn't possess any assets that any man deems valuable anymore so the best bet is the hail mary attempt to look for a simp willing to do it just because. That's why she didn't pressure for sex at all. It's a benefit to her if you support her without being sexual, because then you'd be placing a responsibility on her- a requirement for you to stay (which is not in-keeping with how she wants the relationship deal to go; all the requirements are on you and you alone --young men take note as this is how it appears.--)

    This is funny to me because she was actually telling you the truth the whole time.
    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I almost thought it was my ex wife until I read "slim and kinda hot". Nope. Not her. What you went through was just an average day for me when I was married. You become numb.

    $200? You broke Tom Leykis's rule of No more than $40 for a date.
    To be honest most of the women I've had sex with I didn't spend any money or even go on date. I've probably been on 20 real dates where I spent money (usually $30-40) and most lead to sex...always making out and touching stuff. The few that didn't want sex after the first date I met at their house and had sex the following meeting. Maybe 1 or 2 that were smart and didn't roll like that with a smooth talking country accent getting the panties down....good for them. My ex was the only woman I spent a little time trying to know a little about first...maybe 2 weeks.

    I've got to where I can't have sex with the same woman more than 1 or MAYBE 2 times. Then I'm done and can't even get hard thinking of them. That is sort of a problem in a way.

    This week has been the roughest ever though...maybe $450...$325 of which was hotels. Not sure I'll pursue anymore of the women over an hour away.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    She's asked me several times now if I'm coming back tonight. A murderer with severe anger problems since a childhood who goes into fits of rage!!! WTF.

    I said maybe if I'm not sexually frustrated by you again (not going just checking the response)...she said "it's only the second date and I like to move slow". LOL...she probably thought she had her a simp until I showed up in person and got some drinks in me. I took her on "the best date she's ever had" then she was crying in the parking lot...she actually cried about different stuff a few times which is not something I can deal with from a stranger.
    She's got the hots for the "Bad Boy" in you... Murderer and anger issues have danger all over them. You have set boundaries, with the sexual frustration comment, that's another BB trait.

    The "Best Date" is you simulating her emotions playing the BB, the crying is the result of her simulated emotions. The crying could be about anything or everything, the subject doesn't matter... Its her mood or her emotions running wild that matter to her. The money you were spending, reminding her of her ex's money... She would have been soaking wet over you as a package.

    But she still "Shit tested" you, she can't help it, it is part of female nature. Expect more of it, she wants to know exactly what or who you are. Her BS meter might be high, but she doesn't trust it as she is still testing you and wants to see you again. AWALT attracted to danger/the BB....

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    You speak like a psychiatrist with 40 years experience. You nailed this one. Her husband that made $300-400k left her...she said all he wanted was sex from her and said she was crazy. She blames him, her mom, her dad, her childhood and everything else. Now she's working a lower paying job and having to support herself. She wants to be wined and dined like her ex did her and she also wants a relationship...with someone making enough money to help support her down the line. She seemed to love that I spent all this money like I didn't care. She wanted me to be more focused on my career to help HER down the line. She said stuff like "our relationship" before we even met. In her mind she can groom me to be what she wants. And she knows that sex is her only weapon...she probably knew that the date she planned for the next day could go up in smoke if she put out. It's probably happened a lot because why would a guy otherwise want to be around her?

    She's asked me several times now if I'm coming back tonight. A murderer with severe anger problems since a childhood who goes into fits of rage!!! WTF.

    I said maybe if I'm not sexually frustrated by you again (not going just checking the response)...she said "it's only the second date and I like to move slow". LOL...she probably thought she had her a simp until I showed up in person and got some drinks in me. I took her on "the best date she's ever had" then she was crying in the parking lot...she actually cried about different stuff a few times which is not something I can deal with from a stranger.

    She's going to have to find a purebred simp to have any chance at what she wants.
    She tells you these things because she's setting you up to accept a deal where she doesn't have to put out. She doesn't want to do anything.
    And from her responses (and yours) it looks like you're actually falling for it.
    Women aren't naturally built to be aware of danger, they can only see what they want out of any situation it doesn't even register to her that she shouldn't be on a date with a man who admitted he's a murderer and never got caught.

    But alas, all she can see is what she wants and she thinks that she has you in the bag already so good luck lmao.
    If you believe everything you hear is a lie, you have a 100% lie detection rate.
    The opposite holds true but I would rather be surprised by the truth than a lie.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post




    -- She tells me about all the anti psychotic meds she's on and how her mom was psychotic and her ex husband was a narcissist.

    -- ..about 30 min later she starts talking again and telling me about how bad her mom is and her ex husband and her dad and her health and her sleep and her meds and blah blah




    The hardest part of going on dates is having to listen to the same old whining. It's practically a script.
    I'm convinced that a sizable chunk of shitty female behavior is mixing the -Pams and Benzos and GABAs with the alcohol, which is a no-no.

    (Not that the behavior isn't shitty to begin with, but it sure don't help)

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    To those who say there's no such thing as toxic femininity, we have stories like this.

    I didn't know if this story was fiction or not, but I didn't assume it was fiction because there's not anything in the story that I haven't experienced at least once from at least one woman somewhere along the way. Making a scene and embarrassing me in a public restaurant, public crying, accusations, threats, melt downs, shit tests, teasing, passive-aggressive, bad hygiene, pointless manufactured drama, unresolved family/ex husband trauma... yada, yada, yada...

    I have never experienced all that crap from only one girl on only one date, however. But only because I have bailed completely and ghosted at about 25% of that litany of bad behaviors. I have bailed on a relationship. I have bailed on a date. I have bailed in the middle of a vacation in a foreign country to escape that crap. And I most definitely bailed on a marriage that included behavior like that.

    For me, even if she took me back to a hotel and turned into the wildest porn star in the world, and acted out every X rated fantasy I ever had... It would still not be worth tolerating even a fraction of that toxic behavior.

    You mentioned that you spent $200 for this shit show. I would not participate in something like this if you paid me $2,000. I'm not that desperate for cash, or for sex. I would live in a shack, and hump my fist in peace and serenity for the next 20 years before I would go back to that horse shit for even 20 minutes.

    If you, and ALL the other men who spend money to entertain that shitty behavior all stopped doing that simultaneously, and let women like her go hungry and ignored, I suspect we'd have a whole lot less of that toxic crap to deal with.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    The problem with older women in that age range (40+) is that they either put up a lot of barriers and shit tests to pass or they are super easy. If you want to have fun with a more feminine woman that isn't so batshit crazy go younger.

    There are many risks in life but I prefer to take calculated risks. For me personally I wouldn't date single moms or women 40+ because that is too risky from my point of view. Dating women under 30 tends to have less risk but the risk is there just to make it crystal clear. That is because there may be less craziness going on but it is still there because younger women haven't become jaded by life yet.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The problem with older women in that age range (40+) is that they either put up a lot of barriers and shit tests to pass or they are super easy. If you want to have fun with a more feminine woman that isn't so batshit crazy go younger.

    There are many risks in life but I prefer to take calculated risks. For me personally I wouldn't date single moms or women 40+ because that is too risky from my point of view. Dating women under 30 tends to have less risk but the risk is there just to make it crystal clear. That is because there may be less craziness going on but it is still there because younger women haven't become jaded by life yet.
    I hear you. But I think itís catch 22. Younger gals are just drunk toddlers nowadays so they provide you with a Ďdifferentí kind of drama. Age 28-32 seems to be most dramatic, in my experience, as the gal is now looking to drop the anchor and find a husbank ASAP.

    Fucking hell, no matter what age, drama ensues! Even the whore I fucked 2 days ago was being dramatic, so I just fucked her in the ass instead and got done with her!

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster View Post
    I hear you. But I think it’s catch 22. Younger gals are just drunk toddlers nowadays so they provide you with a ‘different’ kind of drama. Age 28-32 seems to be most dramatic, in my experience, as the gal is now looking to drop the anchor and find a husbank ASAP.

    Fucking hell, no matter what age, drama ensues! Even the whore I fucked 2 days ago was being dramatic, so I just fucked her in the ass instead and got done with her!
    I am in my 40s now and I can't really relate with a lot of younger women in their early 20s because they tend to act like kids but they are legally adults capable of drinking and driving which is scary in itself. Associating myself with such behavior is risky as well so it is indeed a minefield. Also, women late in their 20s and early 30s tend to have baby rabies and that can really create tension and there is no fun but "work". If I wanted more work I would pick up a second job which would actually pay and be far more rewarding IMO.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The problem with older women in that age range (40+) is that they either put up a lot of barriers and shit tests to pass or they are super easy. If you want to have fun with a more feminine woman that isn't so batshit crazy go younger.

    There are many risks in life but I prefer to take calculated risks. For me personally I wouldn't date single moms or women 40+ because that is too risky from my point of view. Dating women under 30 tends to have less risk but the risk is there just to make it crystal clear. That is because there may be less craziness going on but it is still there because younger women haven't become jaded by life yet.
    Knowing the truth that men have been legally demoted and equated to the family pet in the bias eyes of the law, anything less then total extraction from that system and its handlers is tantamount to slavery, they're issued status that's on par with AR-15 and men issued ping pong balls.

    When I look at a women I see tyrannical law personified and placed in the mind of an idiot. If that's not enough to go full hermit monk I don't know what is???

    Imagine living in a world where men are entitled to legal advantage over that of a woman? Where the law treated us superior and women inferior? That's the world feminism and the matriarchy created for themselves, a world where men are better off out on our own, living independent and separatist lives like slaves on the run! My Toby two feet will never slow down and never go back, freedom is like clean air and water after living in smog and drinking mud.
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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Women (hell, men too I guess) should have to list the meds they are on in their profiles on dating apps. They seem so proud of it, it should become a thing so men can see what they're up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywarp View Post
    Women (hell, men too I guess) should have to list the meds they are on in their profiles on dating apps. They seem so proud of it, it should become a thing so men can see what they're up against.
    It seems that women who take meds have become so common that other women wonder what the hell is wrong with a woman who isnít on meds. It makes them part of the sisterhood and is something that makes them feel closer to their therapist.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The problem with older women in that age range (40+) is that they either put up a lot of barriers and shit tests to pass or they are super easy. If you want to have fun with a more feminine woman that isn't so batshit crazy go younger.

    There are many risks in life but I prefer to take calculated risks. For me personally I wouldn't date single moms or women 40+ because that is too risky from my point of view. Dating women under 30 tends to have less risk but the risk is there just to make it crystal clear. That is because there may be less craziness going on but it is still there because younger women haven't become jaded by life yet.
    Good point, although the danger in dating under 30 is a much higher chance of knocking her up.
    Last time I was on a dating site, I actually started talking to divorced moms as I never dated one before, but didn't actually go on a date with any. I thought they would be easier but most that I reached out to weren't the least bit interested in me. I actually had more interest from 20 somethings IRL than the 40+ single moms even though I am in my 40s. Crazy.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I am in my 40s now and I can't really relate with a lot of younger women in their early 20s because they tend to act like kids but they are legally adults capable of drinking and driving which is scary in itself. Associating myself with such behavior is risky as well so it is indeed a minefield. Also, women late in their 20s and early 30s tend to have baby rabies and that can really create tension and there is no fun but "work". If I wanted more work I would pick up a second job which would actually pay and be far more rewarding IMO.
    The last time I was on OK Cupid, I found that many women in their 20s were obese or just plain unattractive. I found that many of the 30 and 40 somethings were actually better looking.

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    Re: Told you guys about the hot 40+ woman date this weekend...it went GREAT!!!

    Damn! With a name like edwardhaskell, I had the impression that you were some old dude living a monk lifestyle that spent much of your time watching old black and white TV shows LOL.


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