Thread: Tik Tok Has An Incel Problem

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5qg...-incel-problem

As is always, anything not worshipping women is "incel", since women must be worshipped 24/7.

Lack of worshipping women is hate speech.

Also I appreciate the MGTOW shout out.

People fear and attack what they don't understand. Let the simple minds be, you're on the right road.

I would burst out laughing if someone called me that. Everyone fucks. Everybody knows this.

There's extremists in every widespread movement and organization. If the KKK espouses Christian values, that doesn't make their views part of mainstream Christianity. From what I've seen the MGTOW and Red-Pill movements do not promote violence or hatred against women. They call women out for being flawed just like men are flawed. Pointing out the issues that a large portion of today's women have is not misogyny. I don't believe women are fundamentally worse than men, but if their destructive behavior is not addressed, while men get chastised and critiqued for everything, then the scales need to be evened.

I look at my parents, who've been married for almost 50 years. My mother checks and calls out every "bad" behavior that my father exhibits, while my father lets my mom get away with all types of shyt. Who do you think the more "flawed" person is at this point in their life? As humans, we are going to do what we can get away with if no one says anything about it. It's not about bashing women and treating them like shyt. It's about letting them know when they are being selfish, dishonest, and disrespectful and not just quietly taking their crap.

I read the article. They sure went out of their way with examples. I enjoyed it.

And after a long article about how men can be in the gray area of site compliance, with examples, in the final paragraph a woman named Richards complains about the gray area while, no surprise, simultaneously enjoys it:

While Richards is troubled by the way TikTok can lead people down rabbit holes, she also loves watching videos from Benito Thompson or [female TikTok user] who roasts men who post content complaining about women.

“In this grey area where it’s tough to police things, is there anything in there that technically violates standards? No,” said Richards. “But do they have every right to be roasted? Absolutely.”

In my late 20s and even I distance myself from the retardation that is Tik-Tok - man I don't know how people get so brainwashed into wasting their lives on social media posting pure vomit for the world to see.
Life is too easy, good times make for weak men and probably people in general rings true.

Social media platforms will beg you to join. They will sell your personal information for a profit. They will sell your attention to advertisers for a profit. They will sell to advertisers a list of what you paid attention to, a score of how much time you paid attention to it, along with what you said and to whom you said it.

At the same time, they will attempt to censor what you see, control what you say, and ban anything posted by you that they don't like.

Simultaneously, there are people who voluntarily use that service, agree by default to have their information and attention sold, and then complain that they saw something they didn't like...demanding that it be banned because they found it unlikeable.

It's tough for me to decide which of these strategies is most irrational.

But it isn't my responsibility to fix any of it.

I will continue to ignore, and sleep well while I do it...

My only knowledge of TikTok is women flaunting themselves, I didn't know it was used for anything else. It does not surprise me that there would be people venting on the site.

Social media is great. Free porn from low self-esteem women.

All hail feminism.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

Social media is great. Free porn from low self-esteem women.

All hail feminism.

It amuses me that the feminists of the past would not approve of what women have become.

Never used Tik Tok, I have no need of those social media platforms. Vine was better anyway.

Wow, so you believe the 1st wave pioneer is good and the movement was legit...

Originally Posted by Hedon

That's the new-age version of "loser" or "gay" or "can't get laid." Learn to brush it off, it's nothing new.

That's a great point. They used to call you a "faggot" or a "loser", but not that's no longer in vogue now that we're trying to treat gay dudes like human beings. And now "loser" isn't enough because they've brainwashed the woketrash to think that so-called "incels" are a violent terrorist group. Of course, the reality is the same as it's been for years, that the shitty system leaves a lot of frustrated dudes behind, and almost all of them never get violent. But they take a few isolated incidents and use those to slap an easy label on. Now supposedly incels are this terrorist group. Ironically, one of the supposed incel terrorists, Elliot Rodgers, didn't even identify as an incel. He did post videos complaining about how hard it was to get a girlfriend, but he never used the word "incel." In fact, when he first committed his violent crime, they didn't try to pin the incel thing on him. They tried to make him into some kind of PUA who wasn't doing well. This directly conflicts with his writings. In reality, he was a critic of the PUA's, claiming that they were a bunch of shysters preying on lonely men to make heaps of money with pickup systems that don't really work. (And some of his criticisms of PUA were probably accurate, at least some or much of the time.)

The point is -- the Woke Mind Police always needs a simple and easy label to slap on things. They never investigate issues in depth. And, just to be clear, I condemn Elliot Rodgers' violent attack. But if anyone wanted to understand it (without condoning it), they could read the manifesto he left behind.

Originally Posted by mgtow2021

Wow, so you believe the 1st wave pioneer is good and the movement was legit...

You have the oddest way of looking at things. Must just be one of those always angry, contrarian types.

TikTok is the chi-nazi govt's spying tool. Don't EVER install it on your phone. And if you have already done so, don't use the same phone for mobile payments as well as work related stuff ( esp if you work for the G ). Even if you uninstall it, parts of it might still be there.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

That's a great point. They used to call you a "faggot" or a "loser", but not that's no longer in vogue now that we're trying to treat gay dudes like human beings. And now "loser" isn't enough because they've brainwashed the woketrash to think that so-called "incels" are a violent terrorist group. Of course, the reality is the same as it's been for years, that the shitty system leaves a lot of frustrated dudes behind, and almost all of them never get violent. But they take a few isolated incidents and use those to slap an easy label on. Now supposedly incels are this terrorist group. Ironically, one of the supposed incel terrorists, Elliot Rodgers, didn't even identify as an incel. He did post videos complaining about how hard it was to get a girlfriend, but he never used the word "incel." In fact, when he first committed his violent crime, they didn't try to pin the incel thing on him. They tried to make him into some kind of PUA who wasn't doing well. This directly conflicts with his writings. In reality, he was a critic of the PUA's, claiming that they were a bunch of shysters preying on lonely men to make heaps of money with pickup systems that don't really work. (And some of his criticisms of PUA were probably accurate, at least some or much of the time.)

The point is -- the Woke Mind Police always needs a simple and easy label to slap on things. They never investigate issues in depth. And, just to be clear, I condemn Elliot Rodgers' violent attack. But if anyone wanted to understand it (without condoning it), they could read the manifesto he left behind.

I don't even think there's a consensus on what an "incel" actually is. Most know the formal definition is someone who is involuntarily celibate but that definition doesn't really apply to the majority of people that identify as such and definitely not to those who get labeled as such from others.

Regardless, the critics of "Incel culture" seem to neglect the fact that a Going Your Own Way is a healthy outlet for some of these men that need psychological help. In fact, I feel confident that any professional counseling that could be provided would suggest finding ways to get the most out of life without the pitfalls of romantic interaction being involved. Not valuing your self worth based on an ability to woo the opposite sex when the odds are stacked against you. But instead of highlight the benefits of a MGTOW based approach and how it could help those that aren't magically at the top of the food chain, they try to lump that in with a disturbed fringe element and accuse the movement of promoting mistreatment and disrespect of the female gender.

Originally Posted by Knowledge of Self

I don't even think there's a consensus on what an "incel" actually is. Most know the formal definition is someone who is involuntarily celibate but that definition doesn't really apply to the majority of people that identify as such and definitely not to those who get labeled as such from others.

Regardless, the critics of "Incel culture" seem to neglect the fact that a Going Your Own Way is a healthy outlet for some of these men that need psychological help. In fact, I feel confident that any professional counseling that could be provided would suggest finding ways to get the most out of life without the pitfalls of romantic interaction being involved. Not valuing your self worth based on an ability to woo the opposite sex when the odds are stacked against you. But instead of highlight the benefits of a MGTOW based approach and how it could help those that aren't magically at the top of the food chain, they try to lump that in with a disturbed fringe element and accuse the movement of promoting mistreatment and disrespect of the female gender.

They'll NEVER endorse the benefits of MGTOW. They don't even give us credit for how we live. They claim that we're just incels using the MGTOW thing as an excuse. The truth is most MGTOW have attracted women and have been in long-term relationships with women. That's how we know it's a shitty deal! But the Woke Mind Police doesn't care about the truth. They never have.

Originally Posted by mgtow2021

Wow, so you believe the 1st wave pioneer is good and the movement was legit...

I'm assuming this was directed at me. No I don't believe they were good but I also don't believe their intent was to see their grand daughters etc turn into whores either.