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    Re: The weight of the world!

    happybachelor I thought I talked to you about denigrating fellow members for their MGTOW and denigrating MGTOW itself.

    Your incredulity here tells me you have no idea of the concept of duality. Look it up.
    But if you don't have the intellect to recognise there's a line beyond which this attitude is not healthy and thus not good for you, I can't help you. The human soul needs to share in order to be at its best.
    Look man I've been there, this is MGTOW basics. You're probably a bit 'green' for my insights.
    You're being as asshole. I thought you said you'd knock that off. Was I wrong? Maybe you misunderstood me. There is talking, there is defending one's point, but then there is trying to put people down for thinking differently than you. That third one, talking down to fellow members like you are doing. Not right.

    Putting other members down for their stances is unacceptable. We kick out trolls for attempting the division that you are bringing here in your expression. Why don't you read other members posts here, members with whom you are not energized in your passion, and see how they do it. See how they get their point across without the putdowns that you bring. Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.

    Putting MGTOW down also is unacceptable. If you think you are too good to be here, then don't be here. But don't stick around and be insulting. Don't create animosity. Don't fuck with the unity here by trying to insert doubt into fellow members or cast dispersions with the I'm-better-than-you intellectualism. We are here to support one another. Learn how. Quickly.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    happybachelor I thought I talked to you about denigrating fellow members for their MGTOW and denigrating MGTOW itself.

    You're being as asshole. I thought you said you'd knock that off. Was I wrong? Maybe you misunderstood me. There is talking, there is defending one's point, but then there is trying to put people down for thinking differently than you. That third one, talking down to fellow members like you are doing. Not right.

    Putting other members down for their stances is unacceptable. We kick out trolls for attempting the division that you are bringing here in your expression. Why don't you read other members posts here, members with whom you are not energized in your passion, and see how they do it. See how they get their point across without the putdowns that you bring. Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.

    Putting MGTOW down also is unacceptable. If you think you are too good to be here, then don't be here. But don't stick around and be insulting. Don't create animosity. Don't fuck with the unity here by trying to insert doubt into fellow members or cast dispersions with the I'm-better-than-you intellectualism. We are here to support one another. Learn how. Quickly.

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    Look it up - I fail to see what's wrong with this. Simply sharing knowledge.
    The second sentence you highlighted was a question, not a statement.
    Granted the third was a bit assholey, but well-meant. I'm beyond this. This juvenile idea that we held the world up so why should we continue when asked. I'm trying to call this out for how pathetic it is, we've been programmed to think WE were holding the world up and everyone else has ruined it. You and I both know we are all responsible for this shit show.

    Feels like Hedon is getting special treatment. If the above is really insulting, I've certainly been on the receiving end of the same and had no one 'stepping in' then.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    This is the inherent selfishness in MGTOW, the turning inwards due to past 'wrongs' against you.
    Do you not SEE the ONGOING wrongs institutionalized against ALL men? Regardless of everything else?

    What are you saying? Survival, justice, natural rights, safety, security, all out the window to take another stab at a full 5 gal. plastic fuel can with a red hot poker? Dudes are literally setting themselves on fire that follow such BAD ADVICE! (Tomas Ball New Hampshire courthouse fried himself alive)

    Do you ever get tired of being fucked over or just got used to people fucking your ass like it's the last ass on earth?

    All this inward bullshit, unhappy and miserable, hatred, pessimism, all projected by you and you alone, Jack's right, like him, I'm a happy guy that laughs and smiles throughout my day. Yes, it took some adjustments, readjustments, and realignments, but honestly, I got it right by being intolerant to the intolerable, whereas you seem to feel the tiger in the cage is a pussycat that can reason and negotiate a peaceful coexistence, whereas I shot the lion, scrapped the cage, and put a swimming pool in it's place and all you can say is that I got it all wrong? It's my circus and for personal safety and liability I killed all the animals that can eat me!
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Do you not SEE the ONGOING wrongs institutionalized against ALL men? Regardless of everything else?

    What are you saying? Survival, justice, natural rights, safety, security, all out the window to take another stab at a full 5 gal. plastic fuel can with a red hot poker? Dudes are literally setting themselves on fire that follow such BAD ADVICE! (Tomas Ball New Hampshire courthouse fried himself alive)

    Do you ever get tired of being fucked over or just got used to people fucking your ass like it's the last ass on earth?

    All this inward bullshit, unhappy and miserable, hatred, pessimism, all projected by you and you alone, Jack's right, like him, I'm a happy guy that laughs and smiles throughout my day. Yes, it took some adjustments, readjustments, and realignments, but honestly, I got it right by being intolerant to the intolerable, whereas you seem to feel the tiger in the cage is a pussycat that can reason and negotiate a peaceful coexistence, whereas I shot the lion, scrapped the cage, and put a swimming pool in it's place and all you can say is that I got it all wrong? It's my circus and for personal safety and liability I killed all the animals that can eat me!
    If you are truly happy then my words are not aimed at you.

    I am simply telling men that there is a way out of that fake happiness, which I certainly know.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    The weight of the world is upon us for sure. As feminism has turned our system of government into a Gynecocracy. We however have lost the power of our vote. (November 2020) I’m firmly assured my vote no longer counts. I am as firmly assured there is no remedy to this atrocity.
    So where does that leave us? When do “they” decide alpha males are a threat or dangerous and we start getting rounded up and imprisoned or (depending on the judges hormonal time of the month) we get lined up against a wall and shot. (After they harvest our much needed seamen to continue the female race of course).
    Do we stand and fight against the machine, or do we like Jeremiah Johnson just withdraw further and further from society? When do we draw a line and take back our Country and our Freedom as Alpha Males? There is no longer a “New World” we can migrate to as our founding fathers had, no longer a wilderness to disappear up into. No where left, to be “left alone”
    There is no easy answer as there is no easy outcome.
    However it was Men like us, Free thinking inventing Aloha Males who formed and founded this world that is being wrestled from us. Perhaps this forum/website will see a group of these type of Men rise and Lead this Country back to Greatness one community at a time.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Windrider883 View Post
    The weight of the world is upon us for sure. As feminism has turned our system of government into a Gynecocracy. We however have lost the power of our vote. (November 2020) I’m firmly assured my vote no longer counts. I am as firmly assured there is no remedy to this atrocity.
    So where does that leave us? When do “they” decide alpha males are a threat or dangerous and we start getting rounded up and imprisoned or (depending on the judges hormonal time of the month) we get lined up against a wall and shot. (After they harvest our much needed seamen to continue the female race of course).
    Do we stand and fight against the machine, or do we like Jeremiah Johnson just withdraw further and further from society? When do we draw a line and take back our Country and our Freedom as Alpha Males? There is no longer a “New World” we can migrate to as our founding fathers had, no longer a wilderness to disappear up into. No where left, to be “left alone”
    There is no easy answer as there is no easy outcome.
    However it was Men like us, Free thinking inventing Aloha Males who formed and founded this world that is being wrestled from us. Perhaps this forum/website will see a group of these type of Men rise and Lead this Country back to Greatness one community at a time.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Windrider883 View Post
    The weight of the world is upon us for sure. As feminism has turned our system of government into a Gynecocracy. We however have lost the power of our vote. (November 2020) I’m firmly assured my vote no longer counts. I am as firmly assured there is no remedy to this atrocity.
    So where does that leave us? When do “they” decide alpha males are a threat or dangerous and we start getting rounded up and imprisoned or (depending on the judges hormonal time of the month) we get lined up against a wall and shot. (After they harvest our much needed seamen to continue the female race of course).
    Do we stand and fight against the machine, or do we like Jeremiah Johnson just withdraw further and further from society? When do we draw a line and take back our Country and our Freedom as Alpha Males? There is no longer a “New World” we can migrate to as our founding fathers had, no longer a wilderness to disappear up into. No where left, to be “left alone”
    There is no easy answer as there is no easy outcome.
    However it was Men like us, Free thinking inventing Aloha Males who formed and founded this world that is being wrestled from us. Perhaps this forum/website will see a group of these type of Men rise and Lead this Country back to Greatness one community at a time.

    Quod homo est homo, qui non facit quod melius est in mundum.

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    I couldn't of said this better myself. The best that I can come up with is that you have to go to a like-minded community, far enough away from the government. That way you can reduce it's influence.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    I couldn't of said this better myself. The best that I can come up with is that you have to go to a like-minded community, far enough away from the government. That way you can reduce it's influence.
    Influence and more important "impact" on your "lifestyle". My daily chores here are considered criminal elsewhere. What's "normal" to me, is out of place and attacked elsewhere. In New York City it's likely one is violating city ordinances without realizing, then snared in the extraction process of fines and or imprisonment. Walk down a crowded Manhattan sidewalk with a chainsaw and likely you'll be arrested whereas here it's a common event. Guns too, try popping off a few rounds from an AR-15 and see if SWAT doesn't take you out, on your own property, minding your own business in a little 2nd amendment protected activity! You'll be swiss cheese!

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Look it up - I fail to see what's wrong with this. Simply sharing knowledge.
    The second sentence you highlighted was a question, not a statement.
    Granted the third was a bit assholey, but well-meant. I'm beyond this. This juvenile idea that we held the world up so why should we continue when asked. I'm trying to call this out for how pathetic it is, we've been programmed to think WE were holding the world up and everyone else has ruined it. You and I both know we are all responsible for this shit show.
    Simply sharing knowledge. Don't try to gaslight me. I'm talking about how to share knowledge in accordance with our Principles.

    The second sentence you highlighted was a question, not a statement. Who cares? That's not the point and you know it. Obfuscation is a bad choice.

    The rest of your response misses the point of my intervention. Don't draw me into your discussion as a way to deflect. You know why I am here.

    Feels like Hedon is getting special treatment. If the above is really insulting, I've certainly been on the receiving end of the same and had no one 'stepping in' then.
    Another attempt to deflect. With your avoidance and obfuscation here, I don't think you have established the credentials to issue direction.

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    • Insult fellow members:There's a difference between disagreeing and being confrontational. This is not Yahoo message boards where 'anything goes'. Chances are there's a way of expressing your opinion or disagreeing with a fellow member that doesn't involve your insulting them, being dismissive, or questioning their integrity. We will remove members based on lack of character because we know that cultivating a thriving MGTOW community means insisting on a certain baseline in conduct amongst membership. Rule applies to all members, but New Members will be on a shorter leash until they prove themselves.
    Please read that mindfully with your alleged superior awareness and worry only about your compliance with it. Dial it down. Should be very easy to do.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    If you are truly happy then my words are not aimed at you.

    I am simply telling men that there is a way out of that fake happiness, which I certainly know.

    Fake happiness? I think MGTOW is where you're least to find it since the negatives are what brought us to MGTOW but at the end of that tunnel each man finds his peace and happiness.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    Fake happiness? I think MGTOW is where you're least to find it since the negatives are what brought us to MGTOW but at the end of that tunnel each man finds his peace and happiness.
    Not always. Until one deals with the wounds inside, and stops living with hate in his heart, there is no true happiness.

    it is about letting go.

    A way to be IN the game but not OF the game.

    I'm sorry for being disrespectful.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Not always. Until one deals with the wounds inside, and stops living with hate in his heart, there is no true happiness.

    it is about letting go.

    A way to be IN the game but not OF the game.
    Perfect!

    You and I Happybachelor have gone head to head on more than one occasion, most recently in this very thread.

    May I make some observations on this post without trying to be confrontational? What I wish to do is explain things from my perspective having been MGTOW for over 20 years and with a general red-pill attitude much longer.

    You speak here about true happiness and about letting go, yet forgive me if I’m wrong but your posts indicate that you have not got there yet.

    Please take this as the observation it is and not a criticism, these things take time and we all go through them. Occasionally though even for those as experienced as I things get a bit, well, much. We feel a need to let off steam. Jagrmeister realised this when setting up this site and so created a “rant” sub-forum.

    Why do I say I think you haven’t quite got there yet with regards “true happiness”?

    You say yourself it’s about dealing with the “wounds inside”, but one cannot deal with the wounds inside by looking to the outside.

    Looking towards things like activism may give you some solace, make you feel like you are making a contribution, but understand that this solace is coming from the outside. It is about affirmation; maybe about affirming your own stance to yourself initially but ultimately it’s about getting affirmation from others. It comes from the outside.

    There is nothing wrong with activism for the right reasons, but one needs to know their own motivations for it.


    You have also talked in this thread about pain. Forgive me but your own pain seems obvious to me.

    When you use terms like “idiot”, or “fool”, or one of your favourite’s “moron” it’s obvious these terms have been used against you and caused you pain, pain you yet haven’t come to terms with and have begun to use them against others in retribution.

    This is understandable but tells me you are still unhappy within yourself. Forgive this assumption.

    Note that no-one here on this site has used such terms whilst referring to you, not even myself when we were in heated, erm, argument / debate.

    Now for a criticism, if I may:

    When you use phrases such as “MGTOW are …” understand that this is a carte-blanche term that includes every member of this site. It simply isn’t good enough to say “If it doesn’t apply to you simply ignore it.” With statements like this you are saying that it does apply to every member of this site.

    If you are referring to ALL MGTOW, please make this clear. If you are referring to many of those on social media networks that CLAIM to be MGTOW but in your POV aren’t, please make that clear also.

    And yes, many MGTOW ARE angry and hurting. Usually these are still in the red-pill rage stage. This stage WILL pass, but only if one allows it to.

    Thank you for reading this, and again please try to take it as the support it is meant as and not a confrontation. And my apologies for the dime-store psychology.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Perfect!

    You and I Happybachelor have gone head to head on more than one occasion, most recently in this very thread.

    May I make some observations on this post without trying to be confrontational? What I wish to do is explain things from my perspective having been MGTOW for over 20 years and with a general red-pill attitude much longer.

    You speak here about true happiness and about letting go, yet forgive me if I’m wrong but your posts indicate that you have not got there yet.

    Please take this as the observation it is and not a criticism, these things take time and we all go through them. Occasionally though even for those as experienced as I things get a bit, well, much. We feel a need to let off steam. Jagrmeister realised this when setting up this site and so created a “rant” sub-forum.

    Why do I say I think you haven’t quite got there yet with regards “true happiness”?

    You say yourself it’s about dealing with the “wounds inside”, but one cannot deal with the wounds inside by looking to the outside.

    Looking towards things like activism may give you some solace, make you feel like you are making a contribution, but understand that this solace is coming from the outside. It is about affirmation; maybe about affirming your own stance to yourself initially but ultimately it’s about getting affirmation from others. It comes from the outside.

    There is nothing wrong with activism for the right reasons, but one needs to know their own motivations for it.


    You have also talked in this thread about pain. Forgive me but your own pain seems obvious to me.

    When you use terms like “idiot”, or “fool”, or one of your favourite’s “moron” it’s obvious these terms have been used against you and caused you pain, pain you yet haven’t come to terms with and have begun to use them against others in retribution.

    This is understandable but tells me you are still unhappy within yourself. Forgive this assumption.

    Note that no-one here on this site has used such terms whilst referring to you, not even myself when we were in heated, erm, argument / debate.

    Now for a criticism, if I may:

    When you use phrases such as “MGTOW are …” understand that this is a carte-blanche term that includes every member of this site. It simply isn’t good enough to say “If it doesn’t apply to you simply ignore it.” With statements like this you are saying that it does apply to every member of this site.

    If you are referring to ALL MGTOW, please make this clear. If you are referring to many of those on social media networks that CLAIM to be MGTOW but in your POV aren’t, please make that clear also.

    And yes, many MGTOW ARE angry and hurting. Usually these are still in the red-pill rage stage. This stage WILL pass, but only if one allows it to.

    Thank you for reading this, and again please try to take it as the support it is meant as and not a confrontation. And my apologies for the dime-store psychology.
    Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.

    Actually I did not say I'm truly happy. I'm admitting I haven't been, and that's the point. I was clinging to MGTOW but still with unresolved wounds. And I think many of us here are still wounded.

    It's my sincere opinion that many men don't move on from that stage. The rage may have subsided, but the bitterness is evident.

    I now see the way forward is to go into those wounds fully, explore them, allow them. I am encouraging others to do the same. I am saying it's alright to admit pain, and that you feel wounded by the world, BUT do something about it.

    For me this has come at a time where I sense the walls are closing in, so to speak. I do think this was necessary, for humanity to awaken. And actually I feel alive again, like this impending doom has shocked me into action.

    And I wanted to see who are my brothers at this time. Who sees what is going on, what's coming, and who is willing to stand against it. We're facing pure evil and I don't want to feel alone.

    The fact that people take this as GO AND SACRIFICE YOURSELF, tells me MGTOW have a hair trigger sensitivity for any 'call to action' they perceive as coming from 'women' or 'the world at large'. This is at root, due to the wound they have from women.

    If not for this wound, men would act. Men would stand side by side and try to stop the end of this wonderful world.

    But the world, ON PURPOSE has wounded men into not caring about the world. And I find that tragic.

    Because once you realise the true self, you are not shackled by past hurts.

    I'm not going to be sitting HURTING at the world coming to an end by psychopathic fucks, because I'm doing something about it. Part of my pain was the slow burn horror of seeing the world go to shit, yet doing NOTHING to make it a better place.

    I want to talk about ways to bring this to its knees. Most here don't give a damn, or are even cheering it on. Some of you even think that's because you're 'more advanced' than me.

    When this is over, I will not be able to be friends with men who just turned their back. I hope you understand the spiritual aspect of what I'm saying here. That's ok. We can't all be friends.

    When I die, I won't regret not trying. I CARE about this world and many of you do too, it's just you don't allow it because of your pain. You let your pain bury your truth, which is your love and goodwill manifested as action.

    And you justify it to yourselves by saying you're 'very red pilled', and I'm obviously not. You're wrong.

    There are many MGTOW who are 'fully red pilled' and 'past the hurt'.. but who are not in reality. I know men. And being intuitive, I also see it in what people say and write. You believe because of your age and experience that you are further along. Well, one thing I know is age doesn't mean shit, really.

    I think I will not post here for a while.

    Cheers.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    And you justify it to yourselves by saying you're 'very red pilled', and I'm obviously not. You're wrong.
    I don’t know where this is coming from to be honest. Do you remember a recent thread where Unboxxed and myself got in to a misunderstanding. I fully admitted that I know little of Red-Pill philosophy as is being portrayed. I’ve been at this for a VERY long time, long before the internet brought it to the fore.

    Because of this my views are often different to those of other members, but by coming together here maybe we can learn something from each other. It isn’t about stating how it is; it’s about exploring how it is. This is my view anyhow.

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Well, one thing I know is age doesn't mean shit, really.
    You are absolutely right. But for those of us that have been living with this and seeing this for many, many years we have experience; not only about what’s happening but about how to deal with it without tearing ourselves to pieces.

    Draw from this experience. That’s why we’re here.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Not always. Until one deals with the wounds inside, and stops living with hate in his heart, there is no true happiness.

    it is about letting go.

    A way to be IN the game but not OF the game.

    I'm sorry for being disrespectful.
    Apology accepted. I understand things get skirmish sometimes due to passion but as men we move on.

    I fully agree with the rest of your post. I was going to use it to challenge your position but I see that Jack did that already.

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    I think I will not post here for a while.

    Cheers.
    I think that is a good idea, happybachelor, if it allows you time to reflect on the Principles violation instances that you are racking up. Namely, insulting other members. Refer to your profile where I have retroactively documented instances that were not Reported. Had I seen them earlier and had I documented them earlier for you to see, with your most recent instance I likely would have done the tough thing and banned you instead of admonishing you. Jagr certainly would have banned you and explained things to you after the ban. But, as you have taken your own leave, let's see what comportment you bring with you should you return. I'll leave the door open. That's the best I can do. However, one more instance of this after you return and I will permanently ban you. Bring your better self when you return and we will have a great time.

    Members, allow me the opportunity to say this:

    Please notice and use the Report button, found in each post, anytime a member violates Principles. You will remain anonymous. Please know that not every Report results in action taken, depends on what it is. But, express your concern if you have one. You don't have to be the recipient of the violation. There is no Principles violation in having intense conversations or in having disagreements but they have to be done in accordance with these Principles. Please recognize that you are not doing the member any favor by permitting personal insults to slide by. You are not overreacting or would be viewed as too sensitive to Report the first instance of it. Don't think like that, if you do. This is your website, too. Help protect it. Without timely feedback, the member may continue the violating behavior, as happened here, and perhaps even be unaware, and eventually it will catch up with him as he wonders what he has done that's been any different that what he has done before. And that's no favor done to him that I have now threatened to ban him over this accumulation. A course-correction taken earlier, is better. The other consideration is that new members coming on board may see the behavior continue unchallenged and consider it their option to imitate it.

    We take respect very seriously around here. You can see that in me. Plus it's a great long-term strategy to keep us from going the way of other sites. I can think of two former members right off the bat who were each popular and energetic, but were chronically insulting. Both got banned so this is not new stuff.

    Thank you.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Actually I did not say I'm truly happy. I'm admitting I haven't been, and that's the point. I was clinging to MGTOW but still with unresolved wounds. And I think many of us here are still wounded.

    I now see the way forward is to go into those wounds fully, explore them, allow them. I am encouraging others to do the same. I am saying it's alright to admit pain, and that you feel wounded by the world, BUT do something about it.

    For me this has come at a time where I sense the walls are closing in, so to speak. I do think this was necessary, for humanity to awaken. And actually I feel alive again, like this impending doom has shocked me into action.

    And I wanted to see who are my brothers at this time. Who sees what is going on, what's coming, and who is willing to stand against it. We're facing pure evil and I don't want to feel alone.
    I admire your courage to admit the state of your unhappiness. Nobody in life is perpetually happy at all times, MGTOW or not. However, if in the absence of happiness one feel depressed that's when it's a problem. This is why I prioritize peace, not happiness, as the bedrock of self-actualization because emotional states like happiness or unhappiness are very fleeting.

    The other thing is if this is how YOU feel, if this is where you're at, shouldn't you focus mainly on yourself, prioritize your happiness, before aiming to save the world? Unless you think being a savior is thing that can bring you "happiness."

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I think that is a good idea, happybachelor, if it allows you time to reflect on the Principles violation instances that you are racking up. Namely, insulting other members. Refer to your profile where I have retroactively documented instances that were not Reported. Had I seen them earlier and had I documented them earlier for you to see, with your most recent instance I likely would have done the tough thing and banned you instead of admonishing you. Jagr certainly would have banned you and explained things to you after the ban. But, as you have taken your own leave, let's see what comportment you bring with you should you return. I'll leave the door open. That's the best I can do. However, one more instance of this after you return and I will permanently ban you. Bring your better self when you return and we will have a great time.

    Members, allow me the opportunity to say this:

    Please notice and use the Report button, found in each post, anytime a member violates Principles. You will remain anonymous. Please know that not every Report results in action taken, depends on what it is. But, express your concern if you have one. You don't have to be the recipient of the violation. There is no Principles violation in having intense conversations or in having disagreements but they have to be done in accordance with these Principles. Please recognize that you are not doing the member any favor by permitting personal insults to slide by. You are not overreacting or would be viewed as too sensitive to Report the first instance of it. Don't think like that, if you do. This is your website, too. Help protect it. Without timely feedback, the member may continue the violating behavior, as happened here, and perhaps even be unaware, and eventually it will catch up with him as he wonders what he has done that's been any different that what he has done before. And that's no favor done to him that I have now threatened to ban him over this accumulation. A course-correction taken earlier, is better. The other consideration is that new members coming on board may see the behavior continue unchallenged and consider it their option to imitate it.

    We take respect very seriously around here. You can see that in me. Plus it's a great long-term strategy to keep us from going the way of other sites. I can think of two former members right off the bat who were each popular and energetic, but were chronically insulting. Both got banned so this is not new stuff.

    Thank you.
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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Why is it when I think of Unboxed, Jack Web/Sergeant Friday, and the Dragnet theme plays through my mind?
    Hmm... My hero, Sgt Friday. He goes by the book, no funny stuff, no smile, takes his job too seriously...

    (thinks about it...)

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    Re: The weight of the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Your incredulity here tells me you have no idea of the concept of duality. Look it up. Thinking you are separate from everything else is false, and the source of many mental problems.
    My friend let me share some personal experience.

    I was once in some esoteric school that shall-not-be-named, and a friend of mine complained that "since you entered this school I can no longer speak with you about things as before, has you have become too dogmatic".

    He was saying the truth, not because of that school, as they usually told us that we should not take concepts as rigid and neither religiously. They even told us "beware of wolves dressed in the sheepskin, the whitest people with holy words can be the blackest in heart". They should know, I found out later they were a satanic cult... (let us just say that never know what we are dealing with with esoterism).

    That happened to me because the only way ego operates is through concepts, and these are rigid cristalizations of what once was free conscience. That is why we always end up in rigid concepts that must be shattered in pain.

    So, when you speak of concepts in these spiritual settings you are trying to use egoic tools with something totally outside ego's experience.

    One does not conceptualize unity, one experiences/realizes unity.

    Non duality is not unity in a conceptual aproximation, it is more akin to plurality. The dualistic view is true/false, right/wrong. The non-dualistic view can be simultaneously true and false, right and wrong. If one is in peace with diametrically opposed concepts in one thing, yet it knows they are both true, then one is on non-duality. And THAT can never be conceptual, the mind does not operate in paradox, but reality does.

    But let us go deeper here. Once we speak of enlightenment, or full-realization, all we hear is: everthing is perfect as it is.

    Obviously the world looks far from perfection in our eyes, but its wheels work in perfection in the eyes of the realized...

    ... that I am not, by the way, or I would not be writing this.

    But what you can take from my rant is: my experience was not a story of addition of concepts, but rather of painfull subtraction of them!

    So, stick around, there is no better place to lose many pesky social concepts that we are indoctrinated with since birth.


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