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    The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    I watched Casual Bachelor on UTube last night, and one episode was of a feminist youtuber w/500k subs describing us MGTOW red pillers as being 'radicalized.' Further, she showed screenshots of our website. She said we were a danger because we share our experiences?? lol

    So I figured if this feminist is reading, she might want to know how I got radicalized. I have been married three times, all three relationships started when the women were in their early 20s. The first two, one 4 yr , one 5. In each case we lived together for a couple years, and those days we didnt have to pay for the time we lived together. Financially it was just writing a check since no children from those two. I thought they were both reasonable, both never cheated and handled my expectations, they were still young and beautiful, and we all just wanted to move on with our lives without an ugly court fight.

    Now for my so called Unicorn. She is preggo in 5 months, so I do the so called right thing. 2 kids and 23 years later, she wants out. The last 3 years of the marriage, she was sour, and it wasnt good for either of us. I would have stuck it out, but not her, she wanted to ring the cash register. Some attorney promised her the moon in exchange for a long drawn out court battle. Legal bills, forsenic accountants, court costs not mention real estate commissions on court ordered RE sales, its six figures.

    And I consider myself lucky, as my kids were both adults. I understand the fight for the kids IS THE WORST, and I avoided that.

    The money that she gets is, well it is what it is and will eventually be inherited by my kids. Its the other fees I previously mentioned, the lies that her attorney made, the proctology exam by forensic accountants and all the property I was forced to sell that irk me.


    THEN!! I reenter the dating market to find out women have outrageous expectations these days . The 40 yr old women today think they deserve more than what 20 year olds expected in the 1980s. Worse, if a woman is vengeful, an ugly breakup she can make a false allegation.

    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    which means
    No tattoos or piercings
    No Only fans or similar social Media account
    No single moms
    If disrespectful to her parents, nope
    Your friends and family dont like her, nope
    Anything over 30 is just practice, and you have to be careful even with hookups these days(ex-screenshot texts)

    Tips for older married guys
    Study your State laws on divorce, be ready, they file when you least expect it
    (for example a LT marriage total alimony is about 40% less in Texas than some NE States}
    Try to make it work
    If she is cheating, get hard evidence, Some States nullify alimony in this case. I would even get a PI to pay the guy for an affidavit

    Tips for older single guys thinking to marry
    (save yourself time and just jump off a cliff..just joking)
    Put your money and real property in a trust before getting married, prenups are often thrown out
    Do not comingle assets acquired before the marriage (that cost me six figures alone)

    Tips for Chad and Tyrone thinking of marriage
    Think you are immune? No you arent
    Sure , now these girls will be submissive to you, but you know how she treats other guys? that energy will be turned on you when the time is right

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    Nope.

    No. No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No.

    Do I have to say it again?

    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    FrankS,

    This is not a website to approve of marriage in any circumstances. When did you start advising the blue pill for others? MGTOW don't do that. When did you change? Or have you always been purple pill?
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    I think Ive said this before
    Maybe it went unnoticed?

    If you ban me, I understand

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I think Ive said this before
    Maybe it went unnoticed?

    If you ban me, I understand
    Oh, I'm sure it went unnoticed. I re-read your Intro just now and I didn't detect purple pill there.

    Yeah, on these pages we cannot allow recommending marriage or any other blue pill advocacy.

    For the sake of all who read this (including lurkers),:

    We disallow purple pills from registered membership on this site. The MGTOW stance is:

    Do not marry. Do not cohabitate. Do not impregnate.


    Thank you for your honesty, FrankS.

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    In the interests of transparency, I have to admit that I reported this post. The post reporting system is meant as secret from us members for good reason, but I prefer to be judged for my actions, so judge away.

    I’m sorry to see FrankS banned, you’re a good guy Frankie and I’ll miss your insight but I make no apologies.

    If MGTOW stands for anything it is no marriage.

    Cohabitation? Well, that’s just another term for marriage, even the courts see the truth in this (for what that’s worth).

    Impregnation? That ties you for life, not just the term of their youth. It’s hard to Go Your Own Way with ties that bind.

    All this being said there’s no reason that one of the mods wouldn’t have picked up on this anyway, but I brought it to their attention and should be judged for my action. So have at it.

    I’m feeling bad, that my action resulted (directly or indirectly) in the banning of a fellow member, one with whom I have absolutely no quarrel, present thread excepted.

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    I would suggest that the need for MGTOW in the USA resulted from a number of Supreme Court decisions and the USA becoming feminized - for example, the common law rule that the child belonged to the unwed mother and was "filius nullius" unless the woman had a husband, in which case the child was the father's. Also, the rise of "No Fault" aka "His Fault" divorce. Now, due to the Supreme Court back in the 70's, the child belongs to the woman whether or not there is a marriage license most of the time and the guy gets the bill aka Chalimony. In foreign countries that are macho, such as in Eastern Europe or Latin America, MGTOW safety precautions are not as necessary - if for no other reason that American guys can fly the coop if things get bad. For Frank, suggest you read the P4P section of this blog so you know the safe zones to interact with women. Mexico, Costa Rica and Belarus offhand . . . Ukraine has lots of available women now if you can avoid the Ukie press gangs recruiting cannon fodder for their army . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    In the interests of transparency, I have to admit that I reported this post. The post reporting system is meant as secret from us members for good reason, but I prefer to be judged for my actions, so judge away.

    I’m sorry to see FrankS banned, you’re a good guy Frankie and I’ll miss your insight but I make no apologies.

    If MGTOW stands for anything it is no marriage.

    Cohabitation? Well, that’s just another term for marriage, even the courts see the truth in this (for what that’s worth).

    Impregnation? That ties you for life, not just the term of their youth. It’s hard to Go Your Own Way with ties that bind.

    All this being said there’s no reason that one of the mods wouldn’t have picked up on this anyway, but I brought it to their attention and should be judged for my action. So have at it.

    I’m feeling bad, that my action resulted (directly or indirectly) in the banning of a fellow member, one with whom I have absolutely no quarrel, present thread excepted.

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    It's just best not to get married, because you have a high chance of getting burned in all the burdens of divorce and the lost of your kids.

    I never got married, nor had kids, nor have any expensive college debts; so I feel like I can have more money than if I had gotten married and stuff. Now that my dad is gone (it still hurts), I can now hopefully keep the house and build the man caves of my dreams; after I get the money and down the road. I don't have to save up for my own house anymore, because my dad's house is unofficially mine to do whatever I want. I no longer need anyone's permission to get my pinball collection, but I won't start until I get things all squared away in my new home life.

    My point is that without a wife and kids and college debts, you have the opportunity to have more money to blow away on happiness and freedom and build that collection of pinball machines and game room stuff.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    Traditional? Do you know even what this means?
    It means a young submissive virgin. A person that treats marriage as sacred.
    A person that does not have social media on her phone.
    Someone whose family & friends are just like her and validate her beliefs/morals.
    A person that is not a feminist.

    If even one of those factors is not met you are bound to fail.
    That's why Hammerhand says:

    Have the laws changed?
    Have the laws been stricken?
    Have the laws been ammended?
    Have women changed?

    The issue is not only with modern women, but also the environment they've created.
    The environment that corrupts "unicorns".
    That's why you hear AWALT, and people discouraging from importing trad-wives.
    Because they are no longer trad once they cross the border.
    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Sure , now these girls will be submissive to you, but you know how she treats other guys? that energy will be turned on you when the time is right
    Because they are not submissive to you - they act submissive.


    Frank - "worth the risk"? This is your biology speaking. Monk or not, mgtow or bluepill - a man has to control his biology.
    Traditional marriage is not based on sex, feelings, lust or mutual attraction but sheer fucking will.
    Every day you choose to stay against your better judgement. Because you respect sacred vows more than yourself.

    And here is the problem. In order to make marriage work both ppl have to share this mindset.
    Otherwise this is just a speedrun to getting used.
    " A man without purpose finds it in women " - UCXIV

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    Quote Originally Posted by bazalgette View Post
    Traditional? Do you know even what this means?
    It means a young submissive virgin. A person that treats marriage as sacred.
    A person that does not have social media on her phone.
    Someone whose family & friends are just like her and validate her beliefs/morals.
    A person that is not a feminist.

    If even one of those factors is not met you are bound to fail.
    That's why Hammerhand says:

    Have the laws changed?
    Have the laws been stricken?
    Have the laws been ammended?
    Have women changed?

    The issue is not only with modern women, but also the environment they've created.
    The environment that corrupts "unicorns".
    That's why you hear AWALT, and people discouraging from importing trad-wives.
    Because they are no longer trad once they cross the border.

    Because they are not submissive to you - they act submissive.


    Frank - "worth the risk"? This is your biology speaking. Monk or not, mgtow or bluepill - a man has to control his biology.
    Traditional marriage is not based on sex, feelings, lust or mutual attraction but sheer fucking will.
    Every day you choose to stay against your better judgement. Because you respect sacred vows more than yourself.

    And here is the problem. In order to make marriage work both ppl have to share this mindset.
    Otherwise this is just a speedrun to getting used.

    If the law is unchanged, then marriage is NO GO. Besides, I don't want marriage anyway! Why? What for? If you get married, women will do everything in their power to FUCK YOU UP. It can be anything. Even innocent mockery of you as a man, by her.

    Marriage is out of the questions! It's not for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    Even innocent mockery of you as a man, by her.
    Western women aren't real women, they are the abomination, a mockery of who their ancestors were.
    That's why institution of marriage keeps failing.

    "Oh, buT qUaLiTy of Men AlsO drOppEd.." - who raised those men?
    Fathers that work 9-5? A baby daddy who ghosted you? A chump that pays you allimony?

    I'd love to get married some day to a woman that meets all the criteria I've just listed.
    White picket fence is a beautiful dream. When nothing keeps you going,
    your children prevent you from self-minecrafting.

    Do you know why Hammerhand didn't choose an easy way out after divorce?
    Because he didn't want his son to get corrupted. He didn't want someone else to tell his son about his demise.
    When everything went down the shitter, this thought was the only thing that kept him going.

    This is the power of family. Your children keep you going regardless the circumstances.
    When a tragedy happens, your wife is here to offer support.
    When you die there is an afterlife and your happy family can live together everafter.

    But I can't have that. Laws, culture, the way modern women have been raised...
    Everything is designed to make marriage not viable.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving View Post
    women will do everything in their power to FUCK YOU UP
    Real women will only go as far as you let them to. The problem is that you no longer can say "NO" once you sign this contract.
    And also the question arises - do women even exist today?
    Can you find a real woman and if so, how do you prevent her from getting corrupted?
    Can you even prevent this from happening?

    You are a failure if you fail to protect your family from debauchery.
    I refuse to be a failure.
    " A man without purpose finds it in women " - UCXIV

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    Tips for Chad and Tyrone thinking of marriage
    Think you are immune? No you aren't.
    Sure , now these girls will be submissive to you, but you know how she treats other guys? that energy will be turned on you when the time is right.
    A true 'chad' never gets married or into a monogamous relationship.
    The moment he does, he gets treated like any other chump. I can attest to that.

    This also happened to my best friend. He used to be a male model/actor. Very handsome, got laid A LOT. Just did great in life overall.
    Then he got married to a very attractive female. They bought a house together and stayed married for almost ten years, until she started cheating on him with a co-worker. Of course she didn't use protection and infected herself with some nasty STD I cannot recall right now. Then she gave that STD to my friend. After the divorce she got the house and my friend literally ended up on my sofa.

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    Re: The Various Costs to Divorce, Tips also

    In all honesty, FrankS’s list of requirements of the young woman, noted below, are realistically impossible:

    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    which means
    No tattoos or piercings
    No Only fans or similar social Media account
    No single moms
    If disrespectful to her parents, nope
    Your friends and family dont like her, nope
    Anything over 30 is just practice, and you have to be careful even with hookups these days(ex-screenshot texts)

    Literally a Unicorn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    In all honesty, FrankS’s list of requirements of the young woman, noted below, are realistically impossible:

    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    which means
    No tattoos or piercings
    No Only fans or similar social Media account
    No single moms
    If disrespectful to her parents, nope
    Your friends and family dont like her, nope
    Anything over 30 is just practice, and you have to be careful even with hookups these days(ex-screenshot texts)

    Literally a Unicorn

    FrankS's requirements for young women FOR MARRIAGE are IMPOSSIBLE, because today's women are FUCKING SLUTS!!

    It makes NO SENSE to get married at all. Whatsoever.

    WOMEN have SOCIAL MEDIA, they become slutty. Plus, OnlyFans, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    In all honesty, FrankS’s list of requirements of the young woman, noted below, are realistically impossible:

    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    which means
    No tattoos or piercings
    No Only fans or similar social Media account
    No single moms
    If disrespectful to her parents, nope
    Your friends and family dont like her, nope
    Anything over 30 is just practice, and you have to be careful even with hookups these days(ex-screenshot texts)

    Literally a Unicorn

    The concept of a "unicorn" is an incel pipe-dream.
    I hate that term because it implies a fundamental misunderstanding of the Red Pill.

    All females share the exact same psychological wiring.

    The moment you commit to them you are signalling to their lizard brain that you are weak, because a strong man has no reason to ever exclusively commit to one female. There is nothing females despise more than weakness. From that moment forward she will lose respect and attraction to you. That is also why all wives end up resenting their husband.

    No retarded checklist of red flags is gonna prevent this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    So I figured if this feminist is reading, she might want to know how I got radicalized. I have been married three times,....


    Tips for young men
    I think if a fellow found a 20ish yr old traditional woman to marry, its worth the risk.
    which means......
    WTF???

    Sorry Frank, you have 3 failed marriages, you are/were a member of this forum that talks about female nature and AWALT but you are still pushing the Disney Dream.... No...

    If someone wants to try marriage/co-habitation? Learn all aspects of TRP or human nature. Her's and your own as a man and then structure your actions and the relationship around TRP truths. AWALT, there are no unicorns, all women have the same female nature. I believe it is the man's behaviour that determines when female nature will show and the relationship will fail. Some marriages/relationships do survive without misery, I find men in those marriages have a different attitude. They may not be RP'ed but they act like they are and female nature is kept in check.

    Play with fire be prepared to burn....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    All females share the exact same psychological wiring.
    No retarded checklist of red flags is gonna prevent this.
    Spent about 35 years in church before I deconverted. Saw a whole bunch of nice christian marriages to nice christian women. They're all divorced. Except for my old best mate Steve, who is not divorced but is gray and miserable. Poor bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Spent about 35 years in church before I deconverted. Saw a whole bunch of nice christian marriages to nice christian women. They're all divorced. Except for my old best mate Steve, who is not divorced but is gray and miserable. Poor bastard.
    Those are the only two possible outcomes of marriage for a man: divorce or emasculation.

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    Actually, I've seen a divorce with a happy ending for the guy. Kevin was a handyman who did some work for me and after 16 years and 2 kids, got served with divorce papers. Had no money for a lawyer, so showed up in court and was met by his wife and her lawyer. Told the judge - before we get started, I'd like to say just one thing. We were married by a preacher with no marriage license. Judge verified this was true with the wife, then announced - I can't divorce you, you are not legally married. Leave.
    Told Kevin he was the luckiest guy in the state of Missouri - wound up paying nothing, no legal fees, no alimony, no child support since the kids were almost 18, he had no clue how lucky he was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    Those are the only two possible outcomes of marriage for a man: divorce or emasculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Actually, I've seen a divorce with a happy ending for the guy. Kevin was a handyman who did some work for me and after 16 years and 2 kids, got served with divorce papers. Had no money for a lawyer, so showed up in court and was met by his wife and her lawyer. Told the judge - before we get started, I'd like to say just one thing. We were married by a preacher with no marriage license. Judge verified this was true with the wife, then announced - I can't divorce you, you are not legally married. Leave.
    Told Kevin he was the luckiest guy in the state of Missouri - wound up paying nothing, no legal fees, no alimony, no child support since the kids were almost 18, he had no clue how lucky he was.

    Damn, man. He just got lucky. That's a rare case for a man. Usually, men get crushed by the divorce, by the bitch without a care in the world. And it's soul's crushing. Almost like torture. Cheating is worse, by the wife, but divorce is brutal.

    Learn from the guys that made a mistake in marrying selfish, greedy women. Female nature is in all women. More or less.

    I never got married. And I'm glad I never did. Whenever I heard horrifying, marriage/divorce stories from men, I was shocked. And these were stories that were increasingly apparent in the MGTOW Reddit (before it got shut down).

    Even if Jesus were to come down and rule the world with an iron hand, and fix everything, and He will, once you open the genie bottle, you can't put it back in. Red Pill knowledge is still knowledge.

    I refuse to go back to the plantation!!!


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