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    The Black Pill

    I know what most of you guys are thinking that the black pill is nihilism it isn't , the black pill is is advanced stage of the red pill, and by black pill I am not talking about the one discussed on incels
    I do not claim this idea, most of the text is paraphrasing Top Dollar Black Pill Gangster a small but very potent youtube channel.


    In alchemy, there are 3 stages.
    Stage 0: The Blue Pill, most guys are still the matrix and indoctrinated by feminism, organized religion, marriage, traditions, collectivism, many have been brainwashed by Disney, that if they become prince charming white knight mangina he will get his oneitis.
    Stage 1 The White Stage, the individual begins to unlearn what he got indoctrinated into.
    Stage 2 Red Stage, the individual becomes aware of female nature, and the unfair laws against men. (Red Pill rage ).
    Stage 3 The Black Pill, the individual overcomes his red pill rage, and finally understands why the laws are biased against men.


    What makes the black pill different is that we do not debunk feminists and tradcons, we decode them instead, the MRA's are not changing anything because they debunk them and do not understand why the laws are unfair towards men. The way I see it is that feminism gynocentrism, traditionalism, organized religion(not spirituality), sjwism , mainstream media , police are not the system they are a tools for the ruling elite ie Rothschild Rockefeller Soros and the rest of the Bilderberg group.


    It is not enough to reject marriage to be black pilled, you need to reject other social constructs like organized religion, traditions , fads , trends.


    **Examples**


    -Preposition 1 : If a woman says that she was raped, the cops have to believe her.
    Refutation : False rape accusations discredit true victims of rape, and police should do forensic checks, and if the woman was caught lying she should get equal punishment of the crime of rape.
    *Black Pill Translation:* The Prison industrial complex is big business and very profitable to the system.


    -Preposition 2 : Marriage must be heralded for the important role it plays in society.
    Refutation : Marriage is a human construct and most married couples are unhappy, marriage is toxic to men, 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorces are initiated by women, so a divorced man will lose half of this property, possessions, and children and he will be forced to pay child support and alimony to his ex.


    *Black Pill translation:* Marriages are profitable for the corporate elite, a man has to first date her buy her drinks , dinner , gifts and he has to buy and 10 grand wedding ring so he can propose to her, he has to pay all the bills and gives her a fraction of his paycheck, when she divorces him, he has to pay her alimony because the system knows that women spend more money than men, and if he doesn't do so he is put in prison same for the black pill translation of preposition 1. The reason why most people get married is to start a family , families pay more taxes than single people do and there is more buying and consuming with families, the status quo pushes marriage and children because the system is greedy needs more taxpayers, and more strength in numbers.


    Most of you are aware that the right and organized religion are pushing marriage is because it is profitable too.


    If you want to opt out of the system but can't , do it as much as possible like stop watching TV and get rid of it, delete all social media, examine your religious beliefs leave organized religion, stick to minimalism instead of consumerism only buy things you need. Eat healthy, do not seek validation, do not take pharmaceutical drugs unless you are very sick . If can opt out of society try living in the high mountains with the monks, or wilderness or the north pole.
    And last but not least do not put the pussy on the pedestal, if you wanna be successful do it only for yourself


    English is not my first language.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW View Post

    English is not my first language.

    I wouldn't worry about it mate....nobody could tell that English isn't your first language....you have a wonderful grasp of it. Plus, I'm betting a pound to a penny that there probably isn't anyone on here who could write in your language.

    You make a good point. However, I think most people on here who class themselves as 'red pill' already realise that the problems out there didn't just happen by accident, but happened on purpose and already know why. Certainly, the why is often up for discussion, but the twisted plans of a few to control the many, is well known.

    We are gonna end up with more different coloured pills than there are genders at a left wing University. If we all have different coloured pills, it will be like a scene from Reservoir Dogs.

    And I ain't being Mr Pink Pill.

    Funnily enough - after all that....I wouldn't mind being Mr Black Pill.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    My view of nihilism is more of hands off approach meaning that it is the default state of the universe. However, since we are thinking human beings and able to interact with the world we are still capable of constructing rules, ethics, boundaries, and upholding honor, pride and prestige.

    So, it is good think about how far the rabbit hole goes as stardusk likes to say. But even stardusk had to admit at one point that he does go too dark sometimes with his thought experiments and examinations of current societal structures.

    In the end maybe the truth is that darkness is the default state of everything, but the light is a brief glimmer of hope. Men saving their lives by going their own way is that radiant hope.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    And ultimately, the black pill - the recognition that it's actually about the elites and money - shows us the way.

    As someone said: tradition is the solution to a problem when you have forgotten what the original problem was. If you get rid of the tradition, the problem comes back. The problem in tribal societies is that most men just do the bare minimum they need to survive. For every chief and big warrior with a harem, there are three to five men just lounging around doing nothing. Because, why the fuck would they?

    Monogamy is not a natural state. It is a genius invention by some ancient king. Instead of a few alphas getting all the sex, every man would have a chance to have a wife and family of his own, if he worked and obeyed the laws. Civilisation exploded. The dream of a wife and kids, a legacy, unleashed all the energy and creativity of young men. They generated wealth.

    The promise of children of your very own, enforced by stringent laws against adultery and cuckolding, changed everything. But women have always hated it. Most women would rather be third wife of a winner than have a loser all to herself.

    And today, the women have won. And the original problem is coming back. MGTOW - the natural state of society.

    Restore the ancient laws:
    1. No man is obliged to support a child not biologically his own.
    2. Custody goes presumptively to the father.


    Do that, and civilisation will start chooching again. But it ain't going to happen. The west will fall.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Restore the ancient laws:
    1. No man is obliged to support a child not biologically his own.
    2. Custody goes presumptively to the father.


    Do that, and civilisation will start chooching again. But it ain't going to happen. The west will fall.
    The ancient law was not that a man wasn't obliged to support a child that was not biologically his, because they had no way of knowing. Or I should say, the only way a man would know if the child was his was if he owned the woman's sexuality (in marriage) and made damn sure she never got any dick but his. What was the law was that you didn't have to support any woman or child unless you were obligated by marriage. You had to specifically commit yourself to that obligation. Without that voluntarily entered into obligation, no woman could force you to pay for her choices. Getting and staying married was the only way a woman could be legally assured of get resources from a man; bartering exclusive sexual access, and ownership of the children resulting from that sex, for a guarantee of provision and protection. Women who gave sex, and had children, outside of marriage were owed zip. The children were hers, as was the responsibility to provide for them. Now, many men would pay a little to a baby mama if he had the means, felt sorry for them, and if the woman expressed the proper gratitude for his largess. But the man owed nothing legally to the slattern that he screwed in the tavern who got pregnant.

    Within marriage the ancient law was the children were his because he bargained for them, and paid for them, up front, by marrying the woman. That is, part of the marriage deal was explicitly that the children of the union were his property. Remember, for most of human existence (right up to my parents' day) marriage was strictly a business deal apportioning duties, responsibilities, and property rights; love and fulfillment had nothing, as in zero, to do with it. If she left, or had some behavior that justified him putting her on the road, she left with a pittance, and usually fled the locale, as her reputation would be trash. Any children stayed with the responsible parent; you know, the father. My grandmother was divorced in 1912. We did not know that until my mother was going through her papers following her mother's death. She found out that her mother had had a daughter from this earlier marriage, that none of us knew existed. This was the norm for divorce in those days, although it had been shifting with the introduction of the "tender years" policy introduced in the late 1890s. If they had divorced, women did everything they could to keep it secret, so they could partake of "decent" society. BTW, the pariah status of divorced women was enforced not by men, but by women.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    I always thought the Black Pill was Machiavellian and like the Dark Triad that Billionaires develop to run businesses, but maybe I have it wrong. I'd rather ghost than control people for profit and power.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangent View Post
    I always thought the Black Pill was Machiavellian and like the Dark Triad that Billionaires develop to run businesses, but maybe I have it wrong. I'd rather ghost than control people for profit and power.
    Over time the symbolism has changed. Redpill reddit has advocated for dark triad and machieavellian tendencies because sexual conquest and obtaining power is "amoral" according to them. But where do you draw the line?

    Even PUAs draw the line somewhere (eg don't date coworkers, don't sleep with your friends GF, etc).

    So going full bore on nihilism unleashes primal sexual tendencies and hedonism inherent in all human beings.

    There is no clear answer, but disregarding boundaries is a clearly not an answer either.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    All I know is that it's good to be aware of all the lies that the blue pill would have you believe.

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by sbm1990 View Post
    All I know is that it's good to be aware of all the lies that the blue pill would have you believe.
    sbm1990 - I don't see an Intro post from you. Unless that requirement has been dropped (Mods? Can you advise?), I suggest you post the relevant notice of your bona fides.
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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    If she left, or had some behavior that justified him putting her on the road, she left with a pittance, and usually fled the locale, as her reputation would be trash.
    Shame.. Shame was a big thing back then.. A gutter slut with 1 kid and no husband was worth less than a handjob from a woman with no hands. Shame is a driver of morals, shame has been removed from society to the point where no one cares anymore and it's a bad thing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    If they had divorced, women did everything they could to keep it secret, so they could partake of "decent" society. BTW, the pariah status of divorced women was enforced not by men, but by women.
    Again, shame.. social groups like to attempt to shame men left right and center because it worked on them for decades. There is an illegitimate relative on my mothers side of the family, born from an affair betwixt my grandfather and a local gutter slut.. Nothing was mentioned because it was a shameful thing!

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW View Post
    The Black Pill, the individual overcomes his red pill rage ...


    What makes the black pill different is that we do not debunk feminists and tradcons, we decode them instead
    This is good.
    Liberty, Property, Sanity (GreyWolf68)


    Alpha fucks, Beta bucks, Sigma doesn't play.


    MGTOW means never having to care about the female viewpoint (Deathslayer)


    MGTOW is weed for the soul


    I came, I saw, I shrugged, I left


    There is no Tooth Fairy. There is no Santa Claus. There is no Good Woman.


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    Re: The Black Pill

    I found this thread after watching a Roosh V video on black pill. I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a real difference between black pill and MGTOW. Am I missing something?

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    And ultimately, the black pill - the recognition that it's actually about the elites and money - shows us the way.

    As someone said: tradition is the solution to a problem when you have forgotten what the original problem was. If you get rid of the tradition, the problem comes back. The problem in tribal societies is that most men just do the bare minimum they need to survive. For every chief and big warrior with a harem, there are three to five men just lounging around doing nothing. Because, why the fuck would they?

    Monogamy is not a natural state. It is a genius invention by some ancient king. Instead of a few alphas getting all the sex, every man would have a chance to have a wife and family of his own, if he worked and obeyed the laws. Civilisation exploded. The dream of a wife and kids, a legacy, unleashed all the energy and creativity of young men. They generated wealth.

    The promise of children of your very own, enforced by stringent laws against adultery and cuckolding, changed everything. But women have always hated it. Most women would rather be third wife of a winner than have a loser all to herself.

    And today, the women have won. And the original problem is coming back. MGTOW - the natural state of society.

    Restore the ancient laws:
    1. No man is obliged to support a child not biologically his own.
    2. Custody goes presumptively to the father.


    Do that, and civilisation will start chooching again. But it ain't going to happen. The west will fall.
    Its not about having children its about the chance to be a chief of his own small tribe ( family ) . About being able to boss someone around too .

    The same could be said about owning your own business ...its not only about the money , is it ?
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: The Black Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I'm not seeing a real difference between black pill and MGTOW. Am I missing something?
    Not all MGTOW are black pill, yet. Some are still angry, going through the red pill rage.

    Later when you see the world for what it is, when the last embers of your anger die out, you become black pill.
    Liberty, Property, Sanity (GreyWolf68)


    Alpha fucks, Beta bucks, Sigma doesn't play.


    MGTOW means never having to care about the female viewpoint (Deathslayer)


    MGTOW is weed for the soul


    I came, I saw, I shrugged, I left


    There is no Tooth Fairy. There is no Santa Claus. There is no Good Woman.


    Disengage, retreat in good order, slash, burn and wait for winter (GreyWolf68)


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