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    the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    In the .win forum, there's a thread about a woman who was using a dating app behind her boyfriend's back. Any man would see that as cheating and as a massive betrayal. I find the fact that so many women see that as normal to be very disturbing. They treat dating like a job. If you found a job that payed better and had better benefits, no one should blame you for upgrading. However, I do not see relationships that way! I think most men agree with me that soliciting to find an upgrade boyfriend, or just setting up backup boyfriends, is a HUGE betrayal of trust. I would never begrudge any man who was outraged by that. However, here's what someone wrote over there:

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    If he was a rational man he would have immediately flown into a rage of passion and grabbed the whore by her hair and dragged her out of the bed onto the floor and bashed her fucking head in.
    I fully understand the anger. However, beating the crap out of a woman is a terrible idea. It will just get you arrested and charged with assault or worse. You'll end up wasting your life behind bars. If you really want great revenge, just walk away from her and ignore her completely if possible. Sometimes you're tied together with kids, so it's not possible. But to the extent that it's possible, ignore her. And put all your energy and efforts into building up a great life.

    It's next to impossible to build a great life in prison. You do hear stories about inmates taking classes to better themselves, but your prospects to better yourself are massively better outside of prison. When you build up a great life, your ex will wonder why she let you get away. Or better yet, you'll have built such a great life that you won't give a fuck what she thinks.

    I think our goingyourownway forum here is the elite MGTOW forum. I don't think there are many here who would beat the crap out of a woman, but I still wanted to put it out there that building a great life is the best revenge. I've felt the frustration that comes with a woman committing terrible sins against men, but not having to pay for it. You can't worry about that. Society is way more fucked up than any of us could ever repair. You've just got to go your own way -- escape from the bullshit -- and make your life the best that it can be. Comments are welcome.
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    The best revenge is no revenge, revenge is a loosing strategy, it wastes effort and causes mental strain.

    There's a time to walk away, and there's a time to walk away forever.

    Whatever fits the offence, walking away from trouble is better than walking towards.

    Best way to fuck up your life is to batter a woman! Nothing gets you harsher treatment from the judge. I'm on a no touch, no emotional involvement protocol, beating a woman is the furthest likelihood in my life. (key words "my life")
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    I used to think about revenge a lot in my younger days, not any more.

    For every ex that's now settled down with a good provider there's half a dozen - fat, single, lonely, deadbeats kids in tow......you should know the score by now.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The best revenge is no revenge, revenge is a loosing strategy, it wastes effort and causes mental strain.

    There's a time to walk away, and there's a time to walk away forever.

    Whatever fits the offence, walking away from trouble is better than walking towards.

    Best way to fuck up your life is to batter a woman! Nothing gets you harsher treatment from the judge. I'm on a no touch, no emotional involvement protocol, beating a woman is the furthest likelihood in my life. (key words "my life")
    You could call walking away without violence and then building a great life not revenge at all, but I call it revenge just to get the attention of men who are ultra frustrated. It's massively frustrating when women can commit terrible wrongs against you like cheating and then suffer no consequences. So your instinct kicks in and you feel like punishing her. But thinking of creating a great life that she won't get to be a part of as "revenge" is a useful reframe, IMO. If it prevents any man from assaulting a woman, it's worth it.

    I'm glad both replies so far have also been against using violence. MGTOW is not about violence and never has been, despite the straw-man arguments the wokescum have made.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    The best revenge is living a better life without her and better than hers. Show her that.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    My best friends wife says "I like mental cruelty better, it lasts longer." She was only half kidding.

    There's a million ways to get back at people without touching them, if you think they got it coming. Just takes some thought.
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    You could call walking away without violence and then building a great life not revenge at all, but I call it revenge just to get the attention of men who are ultra frustrated. It's massively frustrating when women can commit terrible wrongs against you like cheating and then suffer no consequences. So your instinct kicks in and you feel like punishing her. But thinking of creating a great life that she won't get to be a part of as "revenge" is a useful reframe, IMO. If it prevents any man from assaulting a woman, it's worth it.

    I'm glad both replies so far have also been against using violence. MGTOW is not about violence and never has been, despite the straw-man arguments the wokescum have made.
    I never considered punishing them, I learned when I was heart broken, the last place I looked for sympathy was from the one that broke it, that direction only leads to more false hopes and more repeated misery.

    After breakups I actually felt a stress relief, like a weight was lifted from my shoulders, that cycle continued until I realized I was happier and much more comfortable on my own.

    By my mid 30's I was gone like a shot, doing all the things I wanted to do, secured in my decision to break the cycle of being recycled woman after woman after woman, like a string of frame cracking potholes one after another! I ran for the hills and built a house for my base of life's operations. I knew owning was the only option for me so I did what's necessary and busted ass 18 hrs. a day! Things got done because I had internal direction based on paying attention to life's lessons that helped me escape many vices!

    My girly time turned into mountain time on a pair of skis! Everything I gave up created a void that needed filling with something much better! I chose wisely the things I needed to fill the voids and vacuums created from wanting to escape the misery!

    I threw away a life that would have been thrown away on carnivorous modern women that each take a bite until there's nothing left!

    Teasing crocodiles with a short stick is safer than being nice to a carnivorous woman!
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I never considered punishing them, I learned when I was heart broken, the last place I looked for sympathy was from the one that broke it, that direction only leads to more false hopes and more repeated misery.

    After breakups I actually felt a stress relief, like a weight was lifted from my shoulders, that cycle continued until I realized I was happier and much more comfortable on my own.

    By my mid 30's I was gone like a shot, doing all the things I wanted to do, secured in my decision to break the cycle of being recycled woman after woman after woman, like a string of frame cracking potholes one after another! I ran for the hills and built a house for my base of life's operations. I knew owning was the only option for me so I did what's necessary and busted ass 18 hrs. a day! Things got done because I had internal direction based on paying attention to life's lessons that helped me escape many vices!

    My girly time turned into mountain time on a pair of skis! Everything I gave up created a void that needed filling with something much better! I chose wisely the things I needed to fill the voids and vacuums created from wanting to escape the misery!

    I threw away a life that would have been thrown away on carnivorous modern women that each take a bite until there's nothing left!

    Teasing crocodiles with a short stick is safer than being nice to a carnivorous woman!
    You're an inspiration. Thank you for writing. I'm working a job that meets my needs and is work from home. As soon as I get off work, I study screenwriting. Writing a movie has been a dream of mine for a long time, and now I have time to do it and no one to tell me I'm wasting my time. The truth is that I'm talented. I won two play writing contests. Now I can apply those abilities to film. I'm well aware that the screenwriting field is massively competitive, but I think I can compete. There are no guarantees of success, but I would rather look back when I'm 85 and see that I gave it a good honest shot, regardless of whether I write something that gets produced.

    I love that there's no one to harp at me that writing this stuff is a waste of my time. Women were a waste of my time. This isn't.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    There's not enough days in the week to pay back half the dirty deeds most of us have endured, be they by man or woman. If you can take the high road, that's best. Most of the time anyway.

    Besides, these people's chickens have a way of coming home to roost. Twenty or thirty years down the road, you'll likely wonder what you ever saw in these backstabbers.
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    There's not enough days in the week to pay back half the dirty deeds most of us have endured, be they by man or woman. If you can take the high road, that's best. Most of the time anyway.

    Besides, these people's chickens have a way of coming home to roost. Twenty or thirty years down the road, you'll likely wonder what you ever saw in these backstabbers.
    That's a great point. If I put in the time and effort to punish every asshole who treated me bad, it would be a full-time unpaid job. That's all lost time that I could have used to do screenwriting, to study my French, or to play my guitar. Fuck that. It's just not worth the effort. Instead, put your effort into your goals and things you enjoy. Leave all the shit in the rear view mirror.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    That's a great point. If I put in the time and effort to punish every asshole who treated me bad, it would be a full-time unpaid job. That's all lost time that I could have used to do screenwriting, to study my French, or to play my guitar. Fuck that. It's just not worth the effort. Instead, put your effort into your goals and things you enjoy. Leave all the shit in the rear view mirror.
    What type of Guitar do you have and what style do you play?

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    If I'm wronged, I never, ever think of getting back. Why? Because sooner or later, someone bigger and badder than me who got used the same way I did is going to come along to do the job. It's just a matter of time. Funny thing about people who abuse other people is they always get too confident and start punching above their weight. Typically the outcome ain't pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedroomBully View Post
    What type of Guitar do you have and what style do you play?
    I have a Takamine G series acoustic-electric guitar and play folk, slack key, and Hawaiian. When I was younger, I played in hard rock bands in high school. I do still have an electric, an Ibanez Artist, and still occasionally play some rock, but not as often as acoustic.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Revenge would have been something I would have sought in my younger days but there is something better than revenge and that is indifference. When you remove the person who wounds you from your life entirely. Not out of revenge but out of self respect. They receive no more of your energy, it is preserved all for you.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    If I'm wronged, I never, ever think of getting back. Why? Because sooner or later, someone bigger and badder than me who got used the same way I did is going to come along to do the job. It's just a matter of time. Funny thing about people who abuse other people is they always get too confident and start punching above their weight. Typically the outcome ain't pretty.

    Sounds like they ran into one of my late uncles, they didn't use cement shoes, they sent them to the bottom boat and all!
    One guy he warned to watch out for low flying green objects. Must not have headed his warning, dude woke up with broken bones and next to him a green baseball bat! I think the green was a shamrock thing with him!


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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I have a Takamine G series acoustic-electric guitar and play folk, slack key, and Hawaiian. When I was younger, I played in hard rock bands in high school. I do still have an electric, an Ibanez Artist, and still occasionally play some rock, but not as often as acoustic.
    I have a Martin D10. I also play mandolin and banjo. I don't like electric + everyone plays that it ends up all kinda sounding the same. I play bluegrass and country. I study under Bryan Sutton. I don't know if you have heard of him but he's one of the most elite flatpickers alive. You ever wanna chat guitars let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedroomBully View Post
    I have a Martin D10. I also play mandolin and banjo. I don't like electric + everyone plays that it ends up all kinda sounding the same. I play bluegrass and country. I study under Bryan Sutton. I don't know if you have heard of him but he's one of the most elite flatpickers alive. You ever wanna chat guitars let me know.
    Oh, Martins are nice. I definitely want to own one at some point in my life. My favorite acoustic brands are (in no particular order) Martin, Takamine, and Taylor. I've also heard great things about Zager, but have never played one. Among the Takamines, the made-in-Japan ones are their highest end. I own a made-in-China G series Takamine, which is their more affordable series, but still really good. My main goal is to improve my playing. As you know, it's the player's skill that's most important. When I get the bucks together, I want to get a MIJ Takamine, and then maybe a Taylor or a Martin. It's a tough call because they both make great instruments.

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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    I've noticed that eventually the karma train gets people one way or another. As the old saying goes, the best revenge is happiness.

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    "Revenge is a kind of wild justice; which the more manís nature runs to, the more ought law to weed it out. For as for the first wrong, it doth but offend the law; but the revenge of that wrong, putteth the law out of office...The most tolerable sort of revenge, is for those wrongs which there is no law to remedy; but then let a man take heed, the revenge be such as there is no law to punish; else a manís enemy is still before hand, and it is two for one. Some, when they take revenge, are desirous, the party should know, whence it cometh. This is the more generous. For the delight seemeth to be, not so much in doing the hurt, as in making the party repent."
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    Re: the best way to get revenge on someone who has wronged you

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    In the .win forum, there's a thread about a woman who was using a dating app behind her boyfriend's back. Any man would see that as cheating and as a massive betrayal. I find the fact that so many women see that as normal to be very disturbing. They treat dating like a job. If you found a job that payed better and had better benefits, no one should blame you for upgrading. However, I do not see relationships that way! I think most men agree with me that soliciting to find an upgrade boyfriend, or just setting up backup boyfriends, is a HUGE betrayal of trust. I would never begrudge any man who was outraged by that. However, here's what someone wrote over there:



    I fully understand the anger. However, beating the crap out of a woman is a terrible idea. It will just get you arrested and charged with assault or worse. You'll end up wasting your life behind bars. If you really want great revenge, just walk away from her and ignore her completely if possible. Sometimes you're tied together with kids, so it's not possible. But to the extent that it's possible, ignore her. And put all your energy and efforts into building up a great life.

    It's next to impossible to build a great life in prison. You do hear stories about inmates taking classes to better themselves, but your prospects to better yourself are massively better outside of prison. When you build up a great life, your ex will wonder why she let you get away. Or better yet, you'll have built such a great life that you won't give a fuck what she thinks.

    I think our goingyourownway forum here is the elite MGTOW forum. I don't think there are many here who would beat the crap out of a woman, but I still wanted to put it out there that building a great life is the best revenge. I've felt the frustration that comes with a woman committing terrible sins against men, but not having to pay for it. You can't worry about that. Society is way more fucked up than any of us could ever repair. You've just got to go your own way -- escape from the bullshit -- and make your life the best that it can be. Comments are welcome.
    The thing about revenge is we are putting the responsibility of our actions onto other people and forgetting that we often caused it to happen.

    Are you mad at the snake when it bites you? Of course not, it's a snake and that is their nature.
    Are you mad at woman when she doesn't share your monogamous values (AKA cheats)? Of course not.

    Did this man choose to date this woman? He did.
    Did he know about her nature? He did not.
    Would he have dated her in the first place if he did?

    He wouldn't have.


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