Thread: the abortion bans will wind up biting men in the ass

Regardless of how you feel about abortion, you'll see that the new change in laws will end up biting men in the ass. More children are going to be born to mothers who ain't got jack shit for resources. And when a woman can't support her child, guess who will pay: You will. Some woman who fucked 5,932 different men and thus has no clue who the father is will just pick some dude she knows has money and write his name on the birth certificate. He may not even be a member of her hoard fuck club, but, thanks to our shitty laws, he'll end up being held responsible for child support payments. Those who can't pin fatherhood on someone will get welfare from the government.

Some states that keep abortion legal will use taxpayer money to help out-of-state women travel there for an abortion. So if you live in one of those states, the government will be even more in your pocket.

I've already made my feelings clear that I think banning abortion is a mistake. See my other posts for my reasons why. It doesn't mean that I harbor any ill-will or disrespect toward anyone who disagrees with me. But regardless of what your opinion is, it's more money taken out of your pocket.

The only way to minimize the money grab is to NEVER knock anyone up, and if some slut claims you're the father to her child, fight it immediately. If you can avoid ever getting sucked into child support or alimony, then the only money grab you're subjected to is the taxes for the welfare. As shitty as that is, it will be a lot less than child support.

MGTOW is our best protection, plus, I would say MGTOW, plus never sliding your throbbing-hard schlong into any tramp's disease-infested, yeast-filled snatch and jizzing. Fuck a fleshlight. Fuck a silicone doll. If you must fuck a woman, fuck a sex worker with a condom. But don't even have a casual relationship with a woman. Women who know they're knocked up will choose some dude with money and fuck him and then lie to him that he's the father.

Be careful out there, man. It's going to get even shittier than it already is.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Some woman who fucked 5,932 different men and thus has no clue who the father is will just pick some dude she knows has money and write his name on the birth certificate. He may not even be a member of her hoard fuck club, but, thanks to our shitty laws, he'll end up being held responsible for child support payments.

You act like this wasn't going on when roe v wade was intact. Check out the stats on paternity frauds over the last decade.

Originally Posted by Hedon

You act like this wasn't going on when roe v wade was intact. Check out the stats on paternity frauds over the last decade.

It's been going on for years, of course. It's just going to get worse.

Well, Tiggy, if there will be a human born for every abortion which would have taken place, I'm sure there will be more than hundred thousand children per year who would disagree with you and your statement...

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

The only way to minimize the money grab is to NEVER knock anyone up, and if some slut claims you're the father to her child, fight it immediately. If you can avoid ever getting sucked into child support or alimony, then the only money grab you're subjected to is the taxes for the welfare. As shitty as that is, it will be a lot less than child support.

This is not news, it's been around for 50yrs that I know of....

I'm thinking this will be an inconvenience to the wives in sexless marriages that have entertained Tyrone when the husband has had the snip... It will go from an afternoon trip to the clinic to an out of state overnight trip.... A little harder to explain....

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

It's been going on for years, of course. It's just going to get worse.

No it won't. I believe it will be business as usual with very little shift in the graph if any. Women's promiscuity will not lessen and the world will never run out of pathetic simps who insist on being destroyed by the feminine lie. The men who are marrying sluts now and raising other men's kids will continue to do so regardless of abortion laws. Remember, abortion isn't completely eradicated, the feds only passed the buck.

Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard

Well, Tiggy, if there will be a human born for every abortion which would have taken place, I'm sure there will be more than hundred thousand children per year who would disagree with you and your statement...

So a hundred thousand more kids will be sucking on the government's welfare teat, but they won't believe that men are footing the bill for it? You're probably right. They won't believe it even if it's true.

Women get paid way too much for just about everything, not just abortion; alimony, child support, paid maternity leave, abortion, welfare, work, court laws. Take one penny away from them and they bitch about oppression and wage gap.

Nothing will change in my State. Even before the Supreme court's decision, lawmakers here said abortions would continue. Not only that, we are now gearing up for visits from neighboring States when they do ban abortions.

There's also the issue of if a state makes an exception for abortion in the case of rape, obvious incentive for false rape allegations.

Originally Posted by stanmsl

There's also the issue of if a state makes an exception for abortion in the case of rape, obvious incentive for false rape allegations.

I know. I've been worried about that. It's one of the reasons why I would rather just have the government stay out of abortion by leaving it legal. I know some of you here don't agree with that, and that's fine. We can respectfully disagree. My thought is when in doubt, just leave the government out. Leave it up to the medical community to give the woman all possible info and then let her decide. It's okay if you disagree, but that's the way I see it.

These government bans always end up just making everything worse, like it did when they banned alcohol. I'm also for un-banning marijuana in all states, gambling, other drugs like LDS and shrooms, and sexual services. I think all that stuff should be just left up to the free market, and the government (Federal, state and local) should just butt out.

Abortion bans are half the solution. The other half is the Magdalene laundry and the workhouse/orphanage. I'd settle for "no welfare unless you agree to be sterilized". Subdermal contraception works.

Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

Abortion bans are half the solution. The other half is the Magdalene laundry and the workhouse/orphanage. I'd settle for "no welfare unless you agree to be sterilized". Subdermal contraception works.

"No welfare unless you get sterilized" would indeed cut way back on kids in foster care and on single mothers, but there's no way you could ever sell that to the public or to our politicians. In short, it just ain't gonna happen.

Let the fun and games begin. If men are stupid enough to get involved with toxic women then I have no remorse. Stay away from single mothers.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

Let the fun and games begin. If men are stupid enough to get involved with toxic women then I have no remorse. Stay away from single mothers.

Exactly. We're drop outs. Women were toxic before this abortion ban, and they'll get even more toxic after it. You're going to have even more fat slatterns with 8 kids from 5 different fathers trying to find some sucker to get together with her and pay all her bills. Fuck that shit. Stay far, far away. The far-right, anti-abortion fanatics and the feminists are probably going to start killing each other. Just stay away from them both.

A lot of what I’m reading here on the pro-abortion side I find disturbing to say the least. I do hope that you fine gentlemen are merely playing devil’s advocate in order to progress a very important debate relevant to our time.

If not, if you really believe your reasoning is sound, I do hope you reconsider. In bygone days I might have suggested counselling, but since they’re almost all pro-feminist these days I guess I’ll have to try to convince you myself.

Beginning of Rant

Before seriously considering any potential argument in favour of abortion, you should first ask yourself this question:

Does what I am considering warrant the taking of another’s life? If you don’t ask yourself this then all you are doing is attempting to rationalise the arbitrary taking of innocent human lives. To me this is absolutely no different to those trying to justify genocide.

By putting forward the potential effects of not allowing abortion on demand you are ignoring the actual issue and attempting to deflect from and obscure it: that you advocating the killing of human beings, and the most innocent of them at that; what could an unborn child have possibly done to warrant its death?

Note I used the word “arbitrary”. There are of course times when killing an unborn child may be considered “warranted” such as when not doing so would mean the death of the mother, and presumably the death of the child also.

I have heard other factors such as rape being mooted. This one I personally struggle with. On the one side I have no desire to forcefully continue the consequences of a rape on any woman, on the other side it wasn’t the fault of the child – he/she did not commit the crime so why should he/she be punished with the death penalty for it, especially considering that the guy that actually did the deed would receive a far lesser sentence even if convicted?

It is a moral dilemma I have yet to resolve for myself and continuously flip between pro and anti on this one.

As for other mooted factors, I have yet to hear or read a single one (nor all of them combined) that would allow me to consider condoning abortion.

Does the existence of a completely innocent human life threaten you so much that you think it should be killed?

If so, what about a 2 year old? Or an 8 year old? They’re not fully formed adults the same as that gestating foetus, but just the same as that foetus they are human beings, so what’s the difference? That the foetus can’t survive on its own? Oh gimme a break, it bloody well will if you just leave it the fuck alone.

As for those of you that consider the cost of raising a child (whether directly or through child support) would ruin your life, this argument means nothing to me. You should have thought of that before sticking little you into that cum-infested mess, but you don’t want to take responsibility for your actions. Gee, where have I heard that type of reasoning before?

And don’t talk to me about sperm-jacking either. Yes it’s a despicable act on the part of the woman but you put yourself into the position, unless you were raped or otherwise assaulted in which case my previous remarks on rape apply. And no, sperm-jacking alone does not constitute rape.

“But what about the cost to society?”

Take that up with society. That unborn you seek to kill didn’t create nor contribute to the society in which we live, nor should he/she be held accountable for it.

Last you’re supporting feminist doctrine. Whilst this is insignificant in comparison to what I’ve stated above it should at least give you cause for concern.



If after reading this and, if necessary, contemplating upon what I and others have said you still believe in abortion on demand I hope every time you look in the mirror you think to yourself:

The person I’m looking at supports the arbitrary killing of the most innocent of all human beings.

Other than that, please do “Have a Nice Day”.

End of Rant