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    Targeted Misinformation

    It seems that media talking heads are becoming more aware of MGTOW. The responses usually can be put in one of the following categories:


    1. Type One: Slandering MGTOW as "incels"/"losers"/whatever.
    2. Type Two: Labelling MGTOW as an "overreaction" to the genuine concerns of men. They people will misrepresent the issues in a number of ways:
      1. Acting like Feminism has good intentions but has "lost its way".
      2. Labelling MGTOW is akin to Feminism.
      3. Spewing nonsense about men and women "coming together" to "solve these issues".


    The people doing 2 pretend to care, but do not. What's concerning is that some men, perhaps younger ones, may be taken in by the Type Two nonsense. Men about to start on the path of MGTOW might be desperate to think that things are better than they seem. These men might be suckered in. This is an issue in wider society and in women's behaviour. Some, not many but some, women learn to temporarily pretend to be nice to sucker a guy in. Then when she's wifed up or knocked up, she drops the act and the guy is fuc*ed.

    I sometimes wonder about the entertainment value of going around spreading the same nonsense as 1 above. The entertainment comes from two possible benefits:


    • Making wall-hitting roasties think that they don't need to even pretend to be pleasant. Convince them that they should just double down on the insane expectations and insufferable attitude until they are beyond hope for marriage to even a simp.
    • Make wider media spread more of the Type One propaganda, thus showing more young men the vileness of gynocentrism and thus be more likely to go their own ways.


    What are your thoughts all?

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    Re: Targeted Misinformation

    1. Mass media. Who are they and what do the collectively represent?

    Ask yourself, are they collective force behind one common ideology and closed to all others?

    Do they report facts or do they run cover for others like themselves under the umbrella of their mutual ideology?

    Do they use the same yardstick of condemnation on people that violate the law?

    Do they fabricate lies and slander all opposition to their common and mutual interests under that ideology?

    The real question is how does MGTOW relate to that mutual ideology and what threats do we inherently pose to their mutual ideology and how those threats affect the personal tangible rewards received for engaging as devout followers of that mutual ideology?

    We are a force that cannot be reckoned with, we are a force of pure raw nature obligated by the common laws of nature to act accordingly.

    We are in a place they cannot reach, cannot target, cannot summons, cannot command.

    We are that mutual ideology's natural born enemy dictated by the sovereign and incorruptible laws of nature.

    I say let them argue with the rivers and tell them to flow upstream because that's what they believe, we have finite lives to live and much to do to be concerned about their wishes.

    God knows my heart dwells as far away from them as I can get!

    My answer to their mutual ideology that transformed western culture is simply this; A man going his own way is like a bird fleeing a raging forest fire (western culture), we're the first ones out, last one's to get out are walking with burnt feet and no feathers!

    Akin to feminism? MGTOW? Name one law we've sponsored or persons in government we've rallied for change? Where are our articles of incorporation? Who's the leader of this group numbering in the multi millions? How many political allies do we have? What political favors do we take? Where was our last mass gathering? Where are the news cameras, the mobs? Where are all these eledgidly angary embittered men? No two things can be more opposite than MGTOW to feminism, MRA's are the closest thing with a swinging dick to feminism, and where MRA's show up to protest, feminists also show up to shout them down, and usually in greater numbers.

    Coming together to "solve these issues"? I have no "issues" a woman is entitled to change her mind as often as she likes, but a man has every right to make up his mind and abide by that decision without regard or concern for any other living soul, it's called sovereignty and it's the essence of life itself, anything else is subordinate to misery and suffering.

    Together means a threesome where a man is the one most deserving of control but has the least control and subject to dynamic change on a whim that will ruin him.

    Together is like playing Russian Rolette with with a full clip and one in the chamber.

    Together is unbearable.
    It's almost over...

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    Re: Targeted Misinformation

    It's all a shit test. All of it. All of the lies, all of the goading, slandering, shaming, bullying. What a wonderful position I and others have reached where it cannot touch you. They might as well punch the sky.
    After much experience, thought and meditation, I arrived in my current stance where I both pass and fail the shit test.
    I no longer give a fuck about anyone who does not have good and honest intentions. That's my very simple and humble criteria.
    If you're anything other than those things, you will never, ever get anything from me.
    I think society is starting to realise this and will of course keep coming up with new ways to 'win back' men.
    Not happening with me. I've had enough, and see the truth. I am my own man, sovereign, never to submit to anything but the truth.
    Slaves can only dream, free men live their dreams.
    Life is as simplistic as it is complex. Man is so lost in the complexity that he has become stupid.

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    Re: Targeted Misinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    1. Mass media. Who are they and what do the collectively represent?

    Ask yourself, are they collective force behind one common ideology and closed to all others?

    Do they report facts or do they run cover for others like themselves under the umbrella of their mutual ideology?

    Do they use the same yardstick of condemnation on people that violate the law?

    Do they fabricate lies and slander all opposition to their common and mutual interests under that ideology?

    The real question is how does MGTOW relate to that mutual ideology and what threats do we inherently pose to their mutual ideology and how those threats affect the personal tangible rewards received for engaging as devout followers of that mutual ideology?

    We are a force that cannot be reckoned with, we are a force of pure raw nature obligated by the common laws of nature to act accordingly.

    We are in a place they cannot reach, cannot target, cannot summons, cannot command.

    We are that mutual ideology's natural born enemy dictated by the sovereign and incorruptible laws of nature.

    I say let them argue with the rivers and tell them to flow upstream because that's what they believe, we have finite lives to live and much to do to be concerned about their wishes.

    God knows my heart dwells as far away from them as I can get!

    My answer to their mutual ideology that transformed western culture is simply this; A man going his own way is like a bird fleeing a raging forest fire (western culture), we're the first ones out, last one's to get out are walking with burnt feet and no feathers!

    Akin to feminism? MGTOW? Name one law we've sponsored or persons in government we've rallied for change? Where are our articles of incorporation? Who's the leader of this group numbering in the multi millions? How many political allies do we have? What political favors do we take? Where was our last mass gathering? Where are the news cameras, the mobs? Where are all these eledgidly angary embittered men? No two things can be more opposite than MGTOW to feminism, MRA's are the closest thing with a swinging dick to feminism, and where MRA's show up to protest, feminists also show up to shout them down, and usually in greater numbers.

    Coming together to "solve these issues"? I have no "issues" a woman is entitled to change her mind as often as she likes, but a man has every right to make up his mind and abide by that decision without regard or concern for any other living soul, it's called sovereignty and it's the essence of life itself, anything else is subordinate to misery and suffering.

    Together means a threesome where a man is the one most deserving of control but has the least control and subject to dynamic change on a whim that will ruin him.

    Together is like playing Russian Rolette with with a full clip and one in the chamber.

    Together is unbearable.
    Well said! What's the point of having a discussion with someone who refuses to be pinned down with such inconsequentialities as meaning and consequences .

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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    It's all a shit test. All of it. All of the lies, all of the goading, slandering, shaming, bullying. What a wonderful position I and others have reached where it cannot touch you. They might as well punch the sky.
    After much experience, thought and meditation, I arrived in my current stance where I both pass and fail the shit test.
    I no longer give a fuck about anyone who does not have good and honest intentions. That's my very simple and humble criteria.
    If you're anything other than those things, you will never, ever get anything from me.
    I think society is starting to realise this and will of course keep coming up with new ways to 'win back' men.
    Not happening with me. I've had enough, and see the truth. I am my own man, sovereign, never to submit to anything but the truth.
    You know, in a sense I truly am grateful for feminism, and I am not being tongue in cheek at all. Let me explain, if not for the delusion that feminism has fostered in modern women, I'd probably have been married by now, but because of all the echos of "you go girl" and "I'm worth it", some of the women who I assume in past times would have trapped me with their pretence , quickly grew impatient at me dragging my feet and showed their hand too soon, which made me flee as a mice flees an enclave of poisonous vipers. I know I'd have been miserable, but most men bore it in the past because at least the women were smart enough to put on an act for the neighbours, now its a totally different story. The difference between then and now is that women were cunning enough to hide the venom until after the wedding, sometimes the nicer ones even let you enjoy the honey moon, then it was back to sakar for your stint. Itslike Neitszche said, " women make the highs higher and the lows more frequent ".

    I don't even try to pass any tests anymore, the first sign of uncivil behaviour will be our last interaction, I don't care if her feathery wings are drapped over her immaculate bossom, no sex is worth my peace of mind and serenity. I see a lot of pick up artists still teaching men how to pass shit tests but the truth as I see it is, either she is crazy, badly behaved or has a poor opinion of the man. If it's the first two, if she likes you enough she'll hide it as long as she can and if it's the second nothing you do will change that situation, either way as I see it, there is nothing to be gained from learning how to pass a shit test. Maybe learning to have a bit of self worth would be a more appropriate lesson. And I think thats why mgtow is getting attacked a lot, because we charge nothing and show men for free what others want to charge money for, I don't blame them, we are competition in a sense.
    Cheers

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    Re: Targeted Misinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by African-Daoist View Post
    Well said! What's the point of having a discussion with someone who refuses to be pinned down with such inconsequentialities as meaning and consequences .
    We run contrary to every label thrown at us, nothing sticks, they say we're white nationalists and supremist, yet we're from every race from many different lands all agreeing mutually on where we stand relating to the modern western culture encompassing us.

    Their division tactics don't work on us, when one finds the truth he seamlessly blends into it with others, becoming one and indivisible, because truth unites and cannot be divided, it's whole, seamless, water and fireproof!

    Watch them melt under their own showers of delusion and lies, like cotton candy in a downpour!

    Toxic femininity is the only femininity there is now, it has poisoned this society to death. I consider myself canceled from this radical culture bent on self destruction, voting under these conditions is a feeble waste of time, walking away is voting with your feet and leaving it all behind.

    We stand alone, together.
    It's almost over...

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    Re: Targeted Misinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    We run contrary to every label thrown at us, nothing sticks, they say we're white nationalists and supremist, yet we're from every race from many different lands all agreeing mutually on where we stand relating to the modern western culture encompassing us.

    Their division tactics don't work on us, when one finds the truth he seamlessly blends into it with others, becoming one and indivisible, because truth unites and cannot be divided, it's whole, seamless, water and fireproof!

    Watch them melt under their own showers of delusion and lies, like cotton candy in a downpour!

    Toxic femininity is the only femininity there is now, it has poisoned this society to death. I consider myself canceled from this radical culture bent on self destruction, voting under these conditions is a feeble waste of time, walking away is voting with your feet and leaving it all behind.

    We stand alone, together.
    True . Nothing new in their tactic though, it's as old as tribal groups. Paint the other party as one dimensional villains else any other exposition might result in hesitation about presumptions. Funny enough it's a form of cognitive dissonance exhibited by large sections of society be they political, economic, religious etc. I guess we get to play as the baddies in their narrative then.
    Cheers


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