Thread: Why I support female MRAs

The world now features single parent households as the majority and shared parenting is the new normal.

A German mgtow (I think his name was Alexander?) made some pretty good videos about 'plastic traditionalism'. He advocates that we keep going forward and for men to become political and push for equality in every single realm.

I did a youtube search and nothing came up.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

It is true that female MRAs are training wheels for blue pill men. But once you go beyond that barrier you soon realize the knowledge that is passed on by female or male MRA's is too rudimentary and doesn't explain deeper intricacies and nuances. This is because MRA's are trying to push for the tradcon model of nuclear families, and social hierarchy of father being the head of the household. They argue it is tradition and it can not be questioned as a result. But since they are dogmatic about it is really is too simplified when the reality of the world is different. The world now features single parent households as the majority and shared parenting is the new normal.

MRAs from my view point like feminists are stuck in a timewarp of the 19th century when most of the world has moved on during the 20th and 21st century.

I agree completely. The only thing I would add is that MGTOW will always be for those who have ears to hear. Most people aren't looking for absolute freedom. Most seem content to be slaves. I would rather the bulk of the world be in the Tradcon / MRA camp than in hellscape feminism will yield.

Originally Posted by pbisque

I agree completely. The only thing I would add is that MGTOW will always be for those who have ears to hear. Most people aren't looking for absolute freedom. Most seem content to be slaves. I would rather the bulk of the world be in the Tradcon / MRA camp than in hellscape feminism will yield.

We're are, after all, spiritual animals, and I ask, what animal needs guidance or seeks to be yolked? Marriage and society at large has morphed and transformed into a contract of despotism to take place over our free will and choice of direction.

The single most prevalent reason I remain single and have for such a long time, is when I felt my natural being and core nature was at odds and conflict whenever I tried relationshits, dating, and friendships with women, it completely rubbed me the wrong the way each and every time! I felt suffocation and the overwhelming feeling that I didn't belong there, that I was disposable at any time. It hardened me over time but not without consequences, the flip side of that coin was the RELIEF when each relationshit ENDED! Like a yoke of tyranny had been LIFTED!

All in due time I learned to use all this FREE TIME to pursue whatever flew my fancy! The day I decided to make this freedom PERMANENT, I was off flying like bird, with and without wings I was flying! Seriously, within a year I completed PP flight school, and hitting the slopes every weekend! There's no better feeling than mastering those two wooden sticks strapped to your feet that are now your WINGS!

While other men were being yoked, cucked, and manipulated into submission, I was doing inverted ali'oops in the superpipe and core shots in the terrain park on the knurly features!

Maybe marriage and relationshits have seen better times from an age before my birth, but now? It's LETHAL! UNHEALTHY! A WASTE OF TIME!

I thank God Almighty that yoke of tyranny was not around my neck and LOCKED!

The single most prevalent reason I remain single and have for such a long time, is when I felt my natural being and core nature was at odds and conflict

In the modern world, any relationship you decide to enter will have dire consequences as the relationship progresses. A man cannot be FREE and be married. It's like trying to be the president of the United States and a professional NFL player at the same time.

It doesn't work and never has.

Previous to Feminism, man had certain privileges. But they were only conferred to middle/upper middle class men. I think Feminism has overall been a very good thing because it has meant that I am free from the expectations of being protector/provider; I always resented protecting and providing for women and when I did I felt resentful afterwards.

So I don't follow that narrative, no matter how mainstream it is. I play by different rules, and if other men or women don't like that, they can go fuck themselves.

I do believe that there is one little silver lining to female MRAs. And in this case, they can be useful even for people like me. And that is, because of so many reasons, the female MRAs arent as heavily censored on internet as MGTOWs. Atleast this was the case when I was formally introduced to red pill. It happened via MRAs, not MGTOWs. And all that because I was goggle'ing and youtube'ing. I was introduced to red pill by "The Red Pill" documentary, made and narrated by a woman. Again, this only works if the person eventually "graduates" away from MRA's NAWALT or things like PUA etc.

Even though alternative options exist, like duckduckgo or bitchute, they still lack (or I feel they lack), either just the content, or both content and ability to make awesome new recommendations. Yeah youtube can be a dick, but after you keep "training" the AI by telling youtube that you are not interested in X video or Y channel, it becomes okay'ish after a while. And even with censorship of channels with content like MGTOW, its still a lot better when it comes to suggesting stuff related to other things, like arts, software, mathematics etc, which I regularly need.

I don't expect most of you to watch this. I'm posting it though for one specific reason. Again, I write for the new guys. In this video Janice Fiamingo, undoubtedly one of the most trusted of female MRAs admits that she is pessimistic about the future. Ava thinks the same way.

This video is essentially MRA central. Even they think the MRA cause is hopeless. Young men, MGTOW is your only path.

I don't have much of a problem with MRAs. Having left the whole notion of trad-con philosophy aside it holds little for me, that being said many have not and because of indoctrination cannot.

A younger friend of mine has had his life destroyed by a total harpy, I won't divulge the details but they are bad, really bad, enough to rival the worst of the stories I read here. Yet he cannot bring himself to shed himself of the possibility of it happening again. He seems locked into the notion of measuring his worth through the women in his life.

MGTOW is not for him, but MRAs may at least give him some tools with which to protect himself.

As for Ava Brighton, she explains quite well here why she feels the way she does. I don't think she is a chameleon, but even if she is for the moment she is saying things that many blue and purple pilled men should hear.

Thanks for Posting the video pbisque

I had two takeaways

1) That Female MRA is only upset because her new partner is stuck paying $5000/mo to an Ex
2) She says she gets negative comments from MGTOWs

I agree with the negative comments. I don't want help from female MRAs, and the female nature that they cant control

Originally Posted by FrankS

Thanks for Posting the video pbisque

I had two takeaways

1) That Female MRA is only upset because her new partner is stuck paying $5000/mo to an Ex
2) She says she gets negative comments from MGTOWs

I agree with the negative comments. I don't want help from female MRAs, and the female nature that they cant control

Agreed, we don't need help from MRAs male or female. But others might.

With regards point 1, how many of us realised what was going on until it affected us personally?

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Agreed, we don't need help from MRAs male or female. But others might.

With regards point 1, how many of us realised what was going on until it affected us personally?

I got away Scott free!

As far as I'm concerned, do like the Islamic brothers do and throw a rug over it! Yea, 3 billion rugs walking around with their mouths shut, sounds like heaven to me...

Ava's being banned and demonitized. To all the people responsible for this, Sieg Heil, you intolerant, discriminatory jerks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX2G4NzwqZA

Originally Posted by kru-kut

Ava's being banned and demonitized. To all the people responsible for this, Sieg Heil, you intolerant, discriminatory jerks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX2G4NzwqZA

I remember years ago the argument was that women in the MRA can spread the message better and with less resistance. Fast forward to the current and you see that all the reasons to have female MRA's out in front as the spokes people of MRA has evaporated.

MRA need to stick to fighting legal battles because that is the best message to send. Through the court of law and business is how men should invest their time if they want to make a difference.

The public sphere is now the domain of the gynocentric because there is money to be made by spilling out gynocentric dogma like a decree from the heavens.

It also doesn't help that 99% of mass media, [fake] news, and social media is owned by brownshirts who are trying to overthrow the country. Quite the time we're living in. Yes, the recent parallel is the rise of Hitler in the pre-WWII era. The similarities are eerie. God help children growing up in this environment. To them I issue this prediction: You will be brainwashed, you'll be under the control of people you hate but whom you'll have to bow down to and give 75% of your subsistence income to, you'll be broke and probably living in squalor, and you'll wonder how your parents could've permitted this chain of events even to begin, if they really loved you. Your parents wanted feminism, discrimination against men, and socialism, because they were morons, incapable of rational thought, and they thought it would be cool. Well, they got exactly what they wanted, and so did you -- right in the neck.

Your parents wanted feminism, discrimination against men, and socialism, because they were morons, incapable of rational thought, and they thought it would be cool.

Because the parents hated their son. They gave all the attention and goodies to their daughter. And if you think mothers are bad well fathers are sometimes bigger cunts than the mother. After all it was my father's generation who stood by and watched these cunts change the laws to the extent where we have regret sex an actual crime now where decent men are put in prison to be anally raped by wild gorillas and monkeys.

The previous generation got what they wanted:

High government spending = more work and more income.
Low taxes (no welfare or this or that social initiative)
Free education (you can study to become an Astronaut without ending up a slave in the future)
Low property prices.

And the benefits were cultural too.
In the 60s/70s people were out and about enjoying casual sex and have gang bangs and orgies every other week. It was bliss!
Now even a top 10% alpha has to serenade a few land whales to convince them into bed.

Now, you study and enslaved into debt as soon as you graduate, your company has no benefits to offer. Your bonuses seems smaller than advertised, the food and drinks are more expensive, the women only open their legs for the top 5%, and if you aren't then even scoring a landwhale takes effort/time and persistence.

And then the men of honour like Jordan Fucking Peterson and his ilk come to rescue the day by telling you to man up! and make your bed! And men who lack a father figure look up to charlatans like him because where else are they supposed to go?

Wow - we are truly the inheritors of a fucked up era!